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Re: my view
Originally posted by Olibeneli I know exactly what you mean......I drove the 30 miles from Burgess Hill to Tunbridge Wells on Sunday morning and it was........ahem.......in best Ozzie.......a real beaut of a day. The sky was clear, it was freezing cold but the winter country side was just lovely. If it had been covered in snow it would have been the tops. However...........I tried the same journey on saturday via the M25, which was a mess eastbound, so I had to give up..........spent 2 hours driving round in circles............does Oz have a M25 equivalent...........you know, the sort of road that just encourages accidents to happen........... cheers Sydney is building its equivalent of the M25 (took them bloody long enough) and linking M5 (South West to Canberra and Melbourne, M4 (West )and I think it is the F3 (North to Newcastle). It will be a toll road. Sydney is also building a tunnel from Rushcutters Bay to Darling Harbour and the price is expected to be about $5. |
I think what you're feeling now is something everyone feels from time to time, I know we do. It's that sentimental time of year again, especially when you have children!
Don't pressure yourselves into making the decision yet, give it a few months, gather all the facts and info you can, then assess it all. One thing to remember though ; if you choose not to go, through logical choices having been made, after weighing up the pros and cons...that's o.k, you will always be able to justify to yourselves the reasons why you didn't go. But if you should choose not to go through fear of taking that huge step ...that will probably weigh heavily on your hearts for years to come. Good luck :) |
If you didn't get cold feet, you probably wouldn't be normal. I reckon every single one of us that has made the move went through a bit of it.
Just think about it logically, and it might be an idea to get Christmas out of the way first, cos that'll affect your emotional side. Then think practically about the pros and cons, and why you thought about going in the first place. |
Forget things for now, enjoy Christmas with your family and then make decision in New Year. I'm not as far along in the application process as you yet and even though only Andrew and I are going I'm sure we will get the jitters too. I'm sure it's normal. Good luck and best wishes.
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Re: my view
Originally posted by badgersmount I was out in Sevenoaks on Sunday for a run and as it was a clear blue day, it was very cold, yet the Kent countryside looked beautiful. For a moment as we drove down in our friend's car, I noticed for the first time in ages how great it all looked. I reflected on the backwardness of Australia, the lack of choice in the supermarkets, the shoddy education, and the mundane suburbs, should I ever be unlucky enough to live in a particularly faceless one, and thought: "if I am ever in a bad patch in Australia then I will look back on this day as the day I should have realised I should have stayed on the UK.." on the other hand: a) it is normally quite mild in our maritime climate, which means we don't get the cold and crisp beautiful winter days, just drizzle and grey skies. That was unusual. Even in summer, the weather is fickle. 2003 - my last - was unusually good of course - made the wait for the visa all the more bearable(!) b)I'm near 7oaks, and even in the nice villages I would need to be a city financier to buy a terrace. c) Think of the times in Australia, every day, routinely, when you loved the countryside. One good day in the Uk does not an experience make. d) for most people in this area of Kent where we live, their idea of a leisure activity is Bluewater... Think of australians, the humour, the sports, the beaches, the outdoors, the food, think of where you want to bring up your kids.. Think of the people that think of pub lunches in the Uk, nice frosty Dickensian walks,and go back, only to return to Australia again.. Made me realise - I definitely going to Australia, and for me, picture-perfect UK will always be a distant memory. Badge England will always be in your heart no matter how long you are away. and as you get.. older.. your distant memory gets a little clearer...would I ever go back even after 40 years......no.....but it's lovey to think about all the good stuff thats there. And of cause there is the family...I will keep going back till i can no more... But there are very few of you that will ever fully forget England....OMO..........:D :rolleyes: |
make a decision after xmas.
Once you've spent the whole of the festive season crammed in your living room with aged flatulent in-laws, watching the 18th suicidal episode of Eastenders, I think you'll be perfectly placed to make an informed and rational decision. |
Originally posted by RichS make a decision after xmas. Once you've spent the whole of the festive season crammed in your living room with aged flatulent in-laws, watching the 18th suicidal episode of Eastenders, I think you'll be perfectly placed to make an informed and rational decision. RICKY |
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Re: Cold Feet?
Originally posted by Dicko No not the programme but me and the missus, We have our state nomination for Victoria we have TRA acceptance, just need to fill out the visa forms (should be a formaility as we only need the pool mark ). So can people tell us why we have suddenly decided after the money spent so far and really looking forward to it, that it may be too big a step with 3 young children. The thought of a hot Christmas, without family has really hit home at this time of year. We have until March to apply for our visa to still get the state nomination should we give it a month and see if our minds change after xmas or what? Has anyone else had these thoughts so far down the line:confused: Once Jan and Feb come around you'll be wandering why you haven't sent it off. Think back to last year , how depressed everybody is during cold, grey, bleak January. We're the same , just need to post the bond to get the Visa. I will do it this week but my wife and I have both had really negative thoughts - how can we take our sons away from our family etc. Its just the time of year. Christmas will compound any family orientated doubts. |
I'm also feeling the same.
We have our Visa and can go anytime now. I told my cousin (whome we will initally be staying with) that we would come over (to Melbourne) in Jan/Feb. We have now decided to attend three weddings in the UK in June and may go then, but to tell you the truth, I'm not so sure I want to go now!. I wanted to go to australia for an easier more relaxed lifestyle. From what Ive seen and read it appears to be longer working hours for less money. Now whats the sense in moving half way round the world for that?.:scared: |
thankfully havnet suffered the cold feet yet, cant think of a single thing I'd miss other than
Dad marmite tetley tea bags our cat if she stays |
Re: Cold Feet?
Originally posted by Dicko No not the programme but me and the missus, We have our state nomination for Victoria we have TRA acceptance, just need to fill out the visa forms (should be a formaility as we only need the pool mark ). So can people tell us why we have suddenly decided after the money spent so far and really looking forward to it, that it may be too big a step with 3 young children. The thought of a hot Christmas, without family has really hit home at this time of year. We have until March to apply for our visa to still get the state nomination should we give it a month and see if our minds change after xmas or what? Has anyone else had these thoughts so far down the line:confused: The fact you are asking yourselves these questions will probably mean you will be better prepared for the move. Look at the best and worse scenarios and decide how you can create some kind of a safety net for yourselves. When things go smoothly with migration, there is nothing better, but as you are aware it can cost a lot in terms of finance, and relationships. Good luck whatever you decide. |
I know what you mean about the cold feet! Since gettting my visa I've been up and down emotionally and at the moment have gone right off the idea. Even had a (2nd) trip out to validate my visa and still can't see any good reasons to up sticks and go to the other side of the world. I'm in possibly the best and simplest position - single, no kids, not particularly close to family, no emotional blackmail from friends/relatives and still can't seem to muster the enthusiasm that I had twelve months ago. Like many on here, I've started to look at things that previously I've taken for granted and see them in a different light. I've even had thoughts like "Well, at least there are no life-threatening spiders/snakes/fish/etc. here!", "Hot climates are all very well to holiday in but what would they be like to live and work in?" and "What the hell am I doing going half way round the world to start all over again?" Valid thoughts (I'm sure most people have these at some stage!) but, I suspect, just a comfort zone thing.
I think the main reason that things have changed for me somewhat since applying for the visa is my change in circumstances. Since applying for my visa I've done a part time course in audio engineering that has opened up a lot of opportunities to get involved in the music business here (my ideal job), and I think I should check them out before moving anywhere. Also, my initial enthusiasm was based on the popular myths about cheap housing, etc. that, after lots of research, turned out to be exactly that - myths! Guess I'm just seeing things a bit more in a realistic light nowadays! On the brighter side though, having validated my visa I've still got four and a half years left to make my mind up so I'm not stressing too much about it at the moment. Finish my course in February so I'll give it six to twelve months to see what's on offer here. If things turn out good, I can do a year or so here (to get some experience) and then see what opportunities there are in the Oz music business. If nothing turns up here, maybe Oz will look more appealing (at least I'll know that I've give it my best shot here and "got it out of my system") and I could still pursue the music route in Oz. Anyway, waffling aside, I'd say get the visa. If you decide to go then it's one less hoop to jump through. If not, consider the costs and effort involved as the price of being sure you're already in the right place :D Good luck, whatever you decide. If you check everything out logically then whatever decision you make will be the right one. |
one of the things I noticed about a lot of you guys is that your're not THAT committed to going, you may have wanted to go for the weather, or to 'escape;' (the rose tinted thing that we all get acused of), and this view is now tempered, but in my view you have to really 'want' it.
I want to be in Australia so much, nothing would change my mind. I spend EVERY day yearning for the old country. I even miss the 'backwardness' etc. There's no hope for me, I might as well have been born an Aussie! Alot of you seem to be going for the 'fringe benefits' not because you want to be Aussies!! Badge :D |
Cold Feet...glad to know we are not alone. Were all enthusiastic until the visa came thru, but now after validating, having a good look around, checking the house prices, job market, etc., not so sure though.
[ I wanted to go to australia for an easier more relaxed lifestyle. From what Ive seen and read it appears to be longer working hours for less money. Now whats the sense in moving half way round the world for that?.] __________________ Its exactly what we too are thinking at the moment. |
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