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PoppetUK Sep 18th 2007 11:04 pm

Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 
Hi there,

We arrived in March and are thinking about using our return flights before the year runs out. We will only go back for 3 weeks to visit elderly relatives, friends and family but what we don't want to do is ruin our application for citizenship. I have read the documents but what I don't understand is if you can leave for a holiday. We arrived before the cut off in July (2 years to 4 year change). I am assuming it would be better for us to go in March and then we could clock up a year before we applied for Citizenship.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Regards

PoppetUK

northernbird Sep 18th 2007 11:21 pm

Re: Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 

Originally Posted by PoppetUK (Post 5327627)
Hi there,

We arrived in March and are thinking about using our return flights before the year runs out. We will only go back for 3 weeks to visit elderly relatives, friends and family but what we don't want to do is ruin our application for citizenship. I have read the documents but what I don't understand is if you can leave for a holiday. We arrived before the cut off in July (2 years to 4 year change). I am assuming it would be better for us to go in March and then we could clock up a year before we applied for Citizenship.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Regards

PoppetUK

You can leave but your 3 weeks out of the country is deducted from your 2 year requirement I believe. It is like a stopwatch and each time you leave Australia the stopwatch stops until you come back in. This is my understanding of it any road.

Goodwin Sep 19th 2007 3:55 am

Re: Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 
Exactly right.

gedge Sep 19th 2007 4:04 am

Re: Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 

Originally Posted by PoppetUK (Post 5327627)
Hi there,

We arrived in March and are thinking about using our return flights before the year runs out. We will only go back for 3 weeks to visit elderly relatives, friends and family but what we don't want to do is ruin our application for citizenship. I have read the documents but what I don't understand is if you can leave for a holiday. We arrived before the cut off in July (2 years to 4 year change). I am assuming it would be better for us to go in March and then we could clock up a year before we applied for Citizenship.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Regards

PoppetUK

that's just what we did
had to add the three weeks on to the required 2 years before eligible to apply
in the big scheme of things it shouldn't make a huge difference to you

PoppetUK Sep 19th 2007 11:06 am

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Originally Posted by gedge (Post 5328100)
that's just what we did
had to add the three weeks on to the required 2 years before eligible to apply
in the big scheme of things it shouldn't make a huge difference to you

I read somewhere that you needed to stay in Oz for the whole year before applying but I can't seem to find that now. That's my worry if we left the trip until 2009.

Thanks for the replies

JAJ Sep 19th 2007 11:48 am

Re: Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 

Originally Posted by PoppetUK (Post 5329047)
I read somewhere that you needed to stay in Oz for the whole year before applying but I can't seem to find that now.

Within the 2 years in 5, you need 12 months in the 2 years before applying.

A large number of people think it means they can't leave Australia for a vacation - not clear why (it's one of the "urban myths" of migration).

PoppetUK Sep 20th 2007 12:17 am

Re: Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 

Originally Posted by JAJ (Post 5329207)
Within the 2 years in 5, you need 12 months in the 2 years before applying.

A large number of people think it means they can't leave Australia for a vacation - not clear why (it's one of the "urban myths" of migration).

OK Thanks. It would make sense to be allowed out on holiday etc!!! Unless they are desperate to keep us here!!

JAJ Sep 20th 2007 1:12 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 5327660)
You can leave but your 3 weeks out of the country is deducted from your 2 year requirement I believe. It is like a stopwatch and each time you leave Australia the stopwatch stops until you come back in. This is my understanding of it any road.

Correct for the 2 year rule. Under the new 4 year rule that's not the case provided absences do not exceed specific thresholds.

carmele Sep 20th 2007 4:24 am

Re: Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 
What date did the deadline from 2 to 4 years come into effect?

When did we have to be here by?

Carmel

Hooch&Lol Sep 20th 2007 5:14 am

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Originally Posted by carmele (Post 5332384)
What date did the deadline from 2 to 4 years come into effect?

When did we have to be here by?

Carmel

I'm glad you asked that! I was just wondering the same!!!
Hope we get a reply!

northernbird Sep 20th 2007 5:18 am

Re: Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 

Originally Posted by carmele (Post 5332384)
What date did the deadline from 2 to 4 years come into effect?

When did we have to be here by?

Carmel

I believe it was 1st July. However if any of you came on a temp visa then up to 3 years of temp residence can be counted towards the 4 year requirement.

carmele Sep 20th 2007 8:36 am

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I thought thru a sponsored visa for 4 years after that you could apply for permanent residency?
We're on 4 year sponsored visa and arrived on 26th July, If you get visa for 4years but only 3 of those years count, how do you get that last 4th year to get permanent residency? Citizenship? :confused:

Carmel

northernbird Sep 20th 2007 8:42 am

Re: Citizenship - going back to UK for a few weeks
 

Originally Posted by carmele (Post 5333029)
I thought thru a sponsored visa for 4 years after that you could apply for permanent residency?
We're on 4 year sponsored visa and arrived on 26th July, If you get visa for 4years but only 3 of those years count, how do you get that last 4th year to get permanent residency? Citizenship? :confused:

Carmel

Depends what sponsored visa you have. The 121/856 is a PR visa. On a temporary visa (457) PR is not guaranteed after any period of time. In my case we have been here for 2 years on a 457, by the time our PR is granted (if) then we will have been here for 2.5 years. Under the new ruling we will be eligible to apply for citizenship after 1.5 years. You must have have at least 12 months residence as a PR in the 4 year period to be eligible to apply for citizenship.

carmele Sep 20th 2007 8:45 am

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Nothernbird thanks for that, had to re-read it, didn't make sense first time round :eek: now the penny has dropped!:thumbsup:
Carmel

northernbird Sep 20th 2007 8:48 am

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Originally Posted by carmele (Post 5333068)
Nothernbird thanks for that, had to re-read it, didn't make sense first time round :eek: now the penny has dropped!:thumbsup:
Carmel

Yeah wasn't the best post I have written, what visa are you on and when did you arrive.


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