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Pollyana Dec 3rd 2007 12:25 am

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 5627204)

swoooooooooooooonnnn.

Thats it, no-one gets any sense out of me for the next few hours (so what's new there, I hear you say?:D)

MartinLuther Dec 3rd 2007 8:04 am

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by The Bloke (Post 5627484)
As my SIL was born in Canada, she automatically became a Canadian citizen regardless of the nationality of her parents, so therefore was issued with (as a baby) and still travels on a Canadian passport. BTW both the parents were Australian citizens living in Canada at the time.
I therefore cannot see how the child in your question can be classed as "an Australian Citizen by descent". The child should then technically become a citizen of the country in which they are born, and therefore technically be eligible for the bonus. If the child was born here, there would be no problem, but this sounds like a scam, but then again the OP has been known to be abit of a windup merchant in the past.

I don't think you've got that last bit right but I can't tell you why as I have a stalker on here who likes to nit pick my replies using rare or irrelevant exceptions ;):D

Dorothy Dec 3rd 2007 10:10 am

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by The Bloke (Post 5627484)
As my SIL was born in Canada, she automatically became a Canadian citizen regardless of the nationality of her parents, so therefore was issued with (as a baby) and still travels on a Canadian passport. BTW both the parents were Australian citizens living in Canada at the time.
I therefore cannot see how the child in your question can be classed as "an Australian Citizen by descent". The child should then technically become a citizen of the country in which they are born, and therefore technically be eligible for the bonus. If the child was born here, there would be no problem, but this sounds like a scam, but then again the OP has been known to be abit of a windup merchant in the past.

From what I understand children born in Canada are not granted Canadian citizenship unless their parents are there as legal residents. There was a thing in the 1990's with women from Hong Kong coming to Vancouver to have babies so they could be Canadian citizens and later sponsor their families. From what I remember the rules were changed to stop this.

Being born overseas makes the child a citizen of the country of their parents' citizenship. If the parents are Australian permanent residents and a child was born in Australia then the child would be Australian. If it's born outside Australia it would be whatever nationality the parents are - UK, India, whatever.

JAJ Dec 3rd 2007 11:50 am

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 5629216)
From what I understand children born in Canada are not granted Canadian citizenship unless their parents are there as legal residents.

That's incorrect. All children born in Canada are Canadian citizens, irrespective of parents' immigration status.

The only exception is children born in Canada to diplomats and those on "official" status.



Being born overseas makes the child a citizen of the country of their parents' citizenship.
Not necessarily. It is possible for a child to be stateless.



If the parents are Australian permanent residents and a child was born in Australia then the child would be Australian.
One parent with permanent residence is enough.



If it's born outside Australia it would be whatever nationality the parents are - UK, India, whatever.
Australia cannot influence what other nationalities any child has. And not every country gives automatic citizenship just because parents have that citizenship.

Ozzidoc Dec 3rd 2007 11:59 am

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by JAJ (Post 5629547)
That's incorrect. All children born in Canada are Canadian citizens, irrespective of parents' immigration status.

The only exception is children born in Canada to diplomats and those on "official" status.




Not necessarily. It is possible for a child to be stateless.




One parent with permanent residence is enough.




Australia cannot influence what other nationalities any child has. And not every country gives automatic citizenship just because parents have that citizenship.

Think that the OP wants to know if he can get the CASH for a baby that is an Aussie but not born in Oz.

JAJ Dec 3rd 2007 12:44 pm

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by Ozzidoc (Post 5629575)
Think that the OP wants to know if he can get the CASH for a baby that is an Aussie but not born in Oz.

I think the answer is yes if the parents are resident in Australia, no otherwise.

Ozzidoc Dec 3rd 2007 5:09 pm

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by JAJ (Post 5629716)
I think the answer is yes if the parents are resident in Australia, no otherwise.

Thanks - resident for immigration purposes or for tax purposes or physically resident :)

I ask as an Aussie in the UK who is a citizen but not resident for tax purposes.

smurtaza Dec 3rd 2007 5:15 pm

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by Ozzidoc (Post 5630456)
Thanks - resident for immigration purposes or for tax purposes or physically resident :)

I ask as an Aussie in the UK who is a citizen but not resident for tax purposes.

After 6 Months in Pregnancy you cannot take flight back to Australia in this case you went temporarily overseas and delivered baby overseas?

Ozzidoc Dec 3rd 2007 5:40 pm

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by smurtaza (Post 5630475)
After 6 Months in Pregnancy you cannot take flight back to Australia in this case you went temporarily overseas and delivered baby overseas?

er. no. Im an NOT resident for tax purposes. I live in the UK.

smurtaza Dec 3rd 2007 8:20 pm

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by Ozzidoc (Post 5630533)
er. no. Im an NOT resident for tax purposes. I live in the UK.

Good on you myte at least you are with your family there.

Ozzidoc Dec 4th 2007 5:09 am

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 

Originally Posted by smurtaza (Post 5630873)
Good on you myte at least you are with your family there.

Firstly...Mate? I'm female.

Secondly. You are being very presumptuous to mention my family.

smurtaza Dec 4th 2007 10:06 am

Re: Child Birth While Visiting Overseas
 
Good on you myte at least you are with your family/friends/relatives there.


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