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Old Feb 11th 2006 | 10:14 pm
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Tell me where the comp is and I'll kit up, sink a few full cylinders and keep filling your hook up. Might look a bit odd when they come up ready gutted mind you
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Old Feb 11th 2006 | 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by bobstevens
Over here in the UK, it is now law that to work on your own house you must have a ' part P' this is an exam you must sit to get it, then and only then are you allowed to do anything electrical in your own home, and that does mean changing a plug.

I recently past my !6th Edition. I install Air Conditioning and I have to install socket's, I can do this in offices, shops and even in my mums house, BUT I am still not allowed to change a plug in my own house, because I haven't got Part P. !!!!!!!!!!
not entirely true!

if you aren't registered then you are allowed to carry out maintenance i.e. change a plug top, light switch, socket, pull switch or even a shower in a bathroom (so long as it's the same or lower rating).
you could even completely re-wire your house still so long as you comply with the requirements of part P; namely that you notify the local area building control before you start and on completion of the work in order that they can send someone to come out and test and inspect your work. for this they will charge you, this seems to be around the £100-150 mark, although i don't know for sure as i work for a registered company.

failure to notify then you could be liable for prosecution under part p of the building regs.
a link to IEE discussion forum discussing exactly that is posted below.

http://www.iee.org/Forums/Forum/mess...&enterthread=y

hope that clears things up for you.
 
Old Feb 11th 2006 | 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I've known quite a few people who have just about re-wired a house in the past (UK). I am sure it used to be legal, or at least NOT illegal

Sensible ? debatable
Hmm, thinking about it a bit more, and recalling ages back, I also knew people who did rewires to bypass the electric meter

Pretty sure that one did come under the "illegal" heading though
 
Old Feb 12th 2006 | 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by bobstevens
Over here in the UK, it is now law that to work on your own house you must have a ' part P' this is an exam you must sit to get it, then and only then are you allowed to do anything electrical in your own home, and that does mean changing a plug.

I recently past my !6th Edition. I install Air Conditioning and I have to install socket's, I can do this in offices, shops and even in my mums house, BUT I am still not allowed to change a plug in my own house, because I haven't got Part P. !!!!!!!!!!
Not quite true, have a look at this:

http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_doesit.asp
 
Old Feb 12th 2006 | 5:08 am
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I'm not an expert at all but I do have a container arriving in Perth soon and it has a whole load of plugs that need changing. Here is what I have found.

For Western Australia see http://www.energysafety.wa.gov.au/en...pages/faq.html

The FAQ here tells you:

"What work is an electrical licence required for?
All electrical work requires a licence except as listed in r.19 of the Electricity (Licensing) Regulations 1991. This generally means that extra low voltage (ELV - below 50Vac or 120V dc - ripple free), communications work, cords and plugs work that is not for gain or reward, supply authority work or other work considered low risk because of the nature of the work or the way it is done.

Refer to electrical installation section for more details."



If you look in the standards and legislation section at the 1991 regulations, r.19 (2) (h) exemptions you are told that you do not need to have a license:

"to the affixing of a plug, electrical appliance plug or
cord extension socket to a flexible cord used or intended
to be used to connect an electrical appliance to a plug
socket outlet through which electricity is supplied or to
be supplied at a nominal pressure not exceeding
250 volts unless carried out by a person for gain or
reward or in the course of employment;"

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Old Feb 12th 2006 | 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by jrankin
If you look in the standards and legislation section at the 1991 regulations, r.19 (2) (h) exemptions you are told that you do not need to have a license:

"to the affixing of a plug, electrical appliance plug or
cord extension socket to a flexible cord used or intended
to be used to connect an electrical appliance to a plug
socket outlet through which electricity is supplied or to
be supplied at a nominal pressure not exceeding
250 volts unless carried out by a person for gain or
reward or in the course of employment;"
Would "Gain or reward" include brownie points? <g>
 
Old Feb 12th 2006 | 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by jrankin
I'm not an expert at all but I do have a container arriving in Perth soon and it has a whole load of plugs that need changing. Here is what I have found.

For Western Australia see http://www.energysafety.wa.gov.au/en...pages/faq.html

The FAQ here tells you:

"What work is an electrical licence required for?
All electrical work requires a licence except as listed in r.19 of the Electricity (Licensing) Regulations 1991. This generally means that extra low voltage (ELV - below 50Vac or 120V dc - ripple free), communications work, cords and plugs work that is not for gain or reward, supply authority work or other work considered low risk because of the nature of the work or the way it is done.

Refer to electrical installation section for more details."



If you look in the standards and legislation section at the 1991 regulations, r.19 (2) (h) exemptions you are told that you do not need to have a license:

"to the affixing of a plug, electrical appliance plug or
cord extension socket to a flexible cord used or intended
to be used to connect an electrical appliance to a plug
socket outlet through which electricity is supplied or to
be supplied at a nominal pressure not exceeding
250 volts unless carried out by a person for gain or
reward or in the course of employment;"
WA is the only State, that I am aware of, that actually does allow anyone to change a plug.
 
Old Feb 12th 2006 | 1:19 pm
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If anyone is really interested in what the law says in the UK regarding The Plugs and Sockets etc (Safety) Regulations 1994 they can go to the DTI website at www.dti.gov.uk/strd/index.html - you can also find lots of other regulations etc regarding consumer safety

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