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Old May 29th 2020, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Amazulu View Post
Cool, but get a visa first! It can a long, expensive and frustrating experience but obviously doable


Good luck
so I’ve heard, more difficult than Canada apparently and am I right in thinking that an immigration agent is recommended with Australia?



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I was over in WA early March drumming up business in the mining space with a new guy we transferred from Brisbane to Perth. Things were booming. Poor guy hasn't come up for air since. Mining seems to be booming and mining is pretty much the whole WA economy.
Shame you didn't notice the recession in Perth then with closed shops and falling business very evident. Mining is a fickle area to say the least and the last down turn saw quite a hefty price paid, for many that got out of their depth.
WA, does, I admit pretty much keeps the nation afloat, but the boom/bust scenario has long been a factor of this state.
As for work up north, I am aware of certain areas 'picking up' but don't recall it being labeled a return to boom times. Nor should a return to such conditions be at all desired. Shocking for the economy.
It should be also noted that the FIFO gig can come at a high price. Those being marital breakup, mental health issues, drug dependency and so on. My understanding is it is not the lucrative area it was a decade ago.
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so I’ve heard, more difficult than Canada apparently and am I right in thinking that an immigration agent is recommended with Australia?
It wasn't so long ago that the process could be easily done, at minimal cost by the individual. While it can be still undertaken, the process has been complicated and as I noted become a business,
quite probably in many cases easier to engage a migration agent, unless feeling apt to complete the job yourself.




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so I’ve heard, more difficult than Canada apparently and am I right in thinking that an immigration agent is recommended with Australia?
I don't know if it is more difficult than Canada but it can be a trying experience. We used an agent but with hindsight, wouldn't have bothered and saved ourselves a few grand. If your case is straightforward then the process is long but pretty simple in reality - there are no trick questions. If you feel that there may be complications, then get an agent. The whole application is expensive though and an agent just adds to the cost
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Originally Posted by verystormy View Post
If you think a fitter and nursery assistant are going to be buying a house anywhere close to that, you are dreaming
Agree. This idea is a complete famtasy. Also $40 ph is a bit on the high end maybe sydney otherwise take a 3rd off.

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Shame you didn't notice the recession in Perth then with closed shops and falling business very evident. Mining is a fickle area to say the least and the last down turn saw quite a hefty price paid, for many that got out of their depth.
WA, does, I admit pretty much keeps the nation afloat, but the boom/bust scenario has long been a factor of this state.
As for work up north, I am aware of certain areas 'picking up' but don't recall it being labeled a return to boom times. Nor should a return to such conditions be at all desired. Shocking for the economy.
It should be also noted that the FIFO gig can come at a high price. Those being marital breakup, mental health issues, drug dependency and so on. My understanding is it is not the lucrative area it was a decade ago.
I am not talking about the last downturn, I am talking about today. Things would appear healthy. My business is certainly experiencing a renewed love affair with WA and it's mining sector.
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Originally Posted by rabble_rouser View Post
Agree. This idea is a complete famtasy. Also $40 ph is a bit on the high end maybe sydney otherwise take a 3rd off.
That's about the going rate for an engineering tradesman in the mining sector (Perth-based)

Salaries tend to be higher in Perth than Sydney - as confirmed by ABS stats
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Originally Posted by the troubadour View Post
Shame you didn't notice the recession in Perth then with closed shops and falling business very evident. .....
Failing retail business and a broad decline in business on "the high street", and in malls, isn't a problem confined to Perth, it is an endemic problem across the industrialized world.

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Originally Posted by jproberts View Post
Hi Amazulu,

Thanks for the positive feedback about WA. The amount that we could borrow etc was just done as a comparison to what sort of housing our salaries could get for us. It's definitely not a definite for how much we'd spend. I'm seeing on Indeed etc that the average salary for my job in Perth is $52 but I really wouldn't be looking for FIFO so i'm expected to have to drop to around $42 to secure a Perth based job? Hopefully that's still achieveable?

My main consideration at the moment is that there are literally 0 jobs available for myself on Indeed, Monster and JobBank in Calgary or Alberta at all at the moment. Whereas it seems that there are 100's available in Perth.

The difference in wages for my wife also seems considerable, around $55,000 for a nursery assistant apparently? Although she probably wouldn't work for the first year or two as she doesn't work here either. (We'd rent until she started work I think)

Thanks again! Really useful info!
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If you think a fitter and nursery assistant are going to be buying a house anywhere close to that, you are dreaming
$55k for a nursery assistant? No. Think $25-40k. Someone with overseas qualifications, no local experience, and no recent experience will be closer to the bottom of that range than the top.

Unless you're coming here with a $500k deposit already lined up, a fitter and a nursery assistant are not going to be buying a million-dollar home.

You need to slash your aspirational housing budget by at least half, but realistically, by about two-thirds.

Rockingham, Mandurah and the Peel area are where someone looking to move to Perth, on your budget, should probably focus.

I have no idea what the market for fitters is at the moment, but you probably need to come here for a recce and speak to fitters and companies on the ground to get a true idea of what the job market is like. I wouldn't rely on how many advertisements are up on Seek to give an accurate picture (in Perth or in Calgary). You won't get very far with that, however, until you already have the visa . . . and you may raise suspicions at airport immigration if you arrive to scope out the job market on a tourist visa. You should also be aware that it is very difficult to secure a position while overseas, visa or not. You are likely going to have to move to Canada or Australia without a job already lined up, and then work the ground when you arrive.

I also concur with Beoz that if you are already down the Canada track, you should probably see that through, and then switch gears if it isn't to your liking. That is, barring something dramatic, or if you are finding that getting a Canadian visa is going to be a long shot. It is very hard to get enough points to qualify for Australia. The Golden Age of Migration is long over and it's really difficult to achieve a points total high enough to get a visa now, without substantial pre-existing ties here.

Frankly it seems a bit odd to me, the sudden lurch in direction from Canada to Australia, especially having already committed to the Canadian process. Can you elaborate more on what is driving this change?

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Originally Posted by Beoz View Post
I am not talking about the last downturn, I am talking about today. Things would appear healthy. My business is certainly experiencing a renewed love affair with WA and it's mining sector.
I'm talking about the present as well. Regardless of there being an upturn in the mining sector, the state is in difficult times.
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Failing retail business and a broad decline in business on "the high street", and in malls, isn't a problem confined to Perth, it is an endemic problem across the industrialized world.
Falling house pieces and poor performing economy have been evident for a time in WA though, being especially noticeable after a considerable period termed 'boom'. Besides NT, more evident than other states.
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Falling house pieces and poor performing economy have been evident for a time in WA though, ....
Longer than the 10-12 years in the UK and USA?
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Longer than the 10-12 years in the UK and USA?
As its The Australia Forum, it means exactly what is written. Perth has in local terms (Australian) has been for a considerable time impacted. More felt due to over the top boom times.
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Falling house pieces and poor performing economy have been evident for a time in WA though, .....
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As its The Australia Forum, it means exactly what is written. Perth has in local terms (Australian) has been for a considerable time impacted. .....
Go on, gizza clue, what is "a considerable time" as it relates to retail shops in Perth, and is that longer or shorter than "a time"?

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I'm talking about the present as well. Regardless of there being an upturn in the mining sector, the state is in difficult times.
WA is not in recession - as confirmed by today's stats. There is only one definition of recession (for a reason - everything else is opinion) and WA is not in one

Hope this helps

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