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Old Nov 15th 2004 | 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by young_lad
Now and again I'll take a look at the forum if there's a particular question I need answering.

Not too long ago I wanted to find out something about tax, but found someone had asked the same thing earlier in the day. I wanted to know about car rego; the forum had been-there-done-that earlier in the day.

I wonder whether the forum is determining my life....

Yesterday, I got a soddin' speeding ticket in the mail. I come on the forum and find a thread on speeding tickets. Today I came home and there's another ticket for me from the same officer on the same road (vendetta perhaps?). I come on the forum and lo and behold the speeding ticket thread has had further posts....

Please, please, please stop contributing to this thread so I can stop getting tickets. I'm currently $256 and 2 demerit points worse off. God knows what the post will bring tomorrow...

Think I might set up bank account for you lot to contribute to ....after all, it's got nothing to do with me exceeding the excruciatingly slow speed limit on the highway..

Maybe you should just set up a direct link for the coppers to your bank account so they can take the money out weekly?
 
Old Nov 16th 2004 | 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
Ah, so, radar detectors are great for people who are otherwise a poor judge of their own speed, [and not for people who think they are above the law]? You have basically said that you have less awareness of your own speed when your radar detector is not plugged in. Can you really be that safe a driver in that case?

Tell me also, what happens when you are in an area where there are no speed cameras, and therefore your detector doesn't "remind" you to check your speed?

Let's face it, radar detectors are for those who want to speed and not get caught, no matter how else you try and mask it.
It beeps at everything that has a sensor on it, whether it be traffic lights or the electric door at the local petrol station, over here it goes off quite often, it has a different beep for speed radars but I still have a quick look down just to check, and yes judging speed over here does take a while to get sorted, after all I can go down a UK very similar to the highway around the corner, be doing 60mph in the Uk and an astonishing 43.5mph over here on a very similar road. It does take a while to figure out that you don't always get in top gear over here, have you never driven in the Uk, I find it hard to believe you see no difference between over here and there.
After years of knowing what "40mph" feels like and then to come over here where there is only kph on the clock, you cant judge all that well what speed you are doing. As it turned out both me and hubby realised in the 1st week we went over the limits, but would have been doing the UK limits for the roads we where driving on.
I suppose in 6 months we will settle into Aussie driving more, but for now I have to look constantly at my speedo. Just more when it beeps at me, I don't fancy a ticket for being 2/3k's over the limit.
Anyway I got my detector because people I knew where getting done all the time for being a few mph over the limits.
 
Old Nov 16th 2004 | 1:38 am
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Just out of interest how fast where you going?? And on what type of road?? Just trying to figure it out, I chugged along the Marmion highway today, at an amazing 55kph on the 60kph section, the traffic behind me was getting very irrate and a truck decided enough was enough and shot off like a rocket, and guess what happened then "flash".... Yeh you guessed it, speed trap behind a bush, the same happened tonight on Whitford ave. Now I may do the odd 5kph above the limit but when the rest of the road users are making my ears burn while driving down the road, I think I'm doing Ok
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Old Nov 16th 2004 | 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by young_lad
Now and again I'll take a look at the forum if there's a particular question I need answering.

Not too long ago I wanted to find out something about tax, but found someone had asked the same thing earlier in the day. I wanted to know about car rego; the forum had been-there-done-that earlier in the day.

I wonder whether the forum is determining my life....

Yesterday, I got a soddin' speeding ticket in the mail. I come on the forum and find a thread on speeding tickets. Today I came home and there's another ticket for me from the same officer on the same road (vendetta perhaps?). I come on the forum and lo and behold the speeding ticket thread has had further posts....

Please, please, please stop contributing to this thread so I can stop getting tickets. I'm currently $256 and 2 demerit points worse off. God knows what the post will bring tomorrow...

Think I might set up bank account for you lot to contribute to ....after all, it's got nothing to do with me exceeding the excruciatingly slow speed limit on the highway..
What is going on. Whenever I check the post box now I'm expecting to find another ticket. $230, 3 points, 2 cars in 2 different states, in less than a week. Maybe I've got the same curse as young_lad, or maybe I should drive with the brakes on?
 
Old Nov 16th 2004 | 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
I understand your points regarding the appropriateness of speed limits but what you must also consider is that regardless of whether the limit is appropriate for the road, there is a high degree of expectancy amongst ALL road users as to what speed vehicles using that section of road will be doing. If I cross the road in the 40 limit near where I live, I don't expect cars to come down at 50 or 60;.
Dont forget your green cross code, you shouldnt be walking out into the road, always use the nearest crossing it much safer for the cars driving along the road

Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
if I am turning out onto a 60 road, I don't expect the approaching car to be doing 80. The driver may think it's appropriate for doing 80 but since the limit is 60, I am expecting him to be doing 60 max. I can't read his mind and realise he thinks this stretch of road should be 80 - at best I can judge his approaching speed.;.
If your pulling out of a junction you dont know the speed limit on that new road until you get on it (you can assume it should be a certain limit, but as weve already discussed there's no logic behind the limits that get set on roads over here) regardless you dont know what speed other cars are doing, so it makes no odds if the cars are doing 60 or 80, not all cars will be doing the maximum speed anyway, grandma might be out trying to find the shops doing 40 in a 60.... you use your judgement of all the relevant factors to try and guage if the gap you are pulling into is safe enough for the car your driving to pull into.

Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
The problem is that everyone has their own opinions of what is 'safe' for a strecth of road. But what happens when yours and my opinions differ? The only solution is to set a limit that EVERYONE understands and therefore it shouldn't be unreasonable to expect that all people stay within that limit.
Im not saying dont set a limit, im saying increase the limit to something more realistic, if everyone can understand a sign thats says 60 at the moment, surely they will be able to understand one that now says 80....
It doesnt mean if your to scared to do 80 you cant do 60 or 70, just keep left and let the cars going faster go past you.
We know that not all types of vehicles are capable of going the same speed, they already share the same roads and do different speeds, so increasing it cant make any difference to the people who dont want to go any faster.
I fully agree with you that it should be expected we stay within the limit, my whole point was that the limit is generally to low, (which is why you think people are speeding) If you raise the limit people are no longer speeding...
If people decide to go beyond these limits then as I said before they should be properly punished for it with much bigger fines and no 2nd chances with their licenses. The only reason this wont happen is because the revenue from the Multinovas would drop so dramatically.
 
Old Nov 16th 2004 | 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I found this website, http://www.radarlaser.com.au/lawsrdau.htm that shows the radar detector laws in each State.


I also found:
The Police are now using radar detector detectors in marked and unmarked vehicles of the Highway Patrol, in the following states .. SA....VIC...NSW... QLD and the Northern Territory. They can confiscate them if found, and they have the power to search the vehicle if suspected of using them. Grounds for suspicion includes when you slow down when close to a radar gun !

So you need to do more than just remove it from the dashboard now !
Obviously.. so that is why you whip it off the dash board when there is a cop about ( as for the searching in QLD.. this is not the case, and certainly wasn't when I looked at the laws here, they don't have the power to search your body, only your car ( and that is very debatable) , things like a pocket on your clothes - no , or handbag , no ( unless they think it's a fire arm) , they, are breaking /contridicting the higher laws themselves, although the police think they are a law unto themselves (make the laws) and not law upholders like their supposed to be, and a good lawyer can argue this one)

it is legal to buy and sell them , to find one in your pocket, or bag ( they shouldn't be searching you anyway , clothing, bags etc by the laws on a whim.. only if they think you are carrying a gun etc) .. you were not using it were you, and why are they breaking the laws by searching you in QLD?This is Qld. Wa are the lucky ones .

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In answer to the other question they are about the size of a cigarette pack, plug into your cigarette lighter in the car thy sit on your dashboad and can be removed in a second.. one swipe of your hand
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To the other post by someone , "don't speed" - speedos can be 10% out by the laws of Australia ( most speedo's are out, my speedo reads lower ( edit I meant to say it reads a Higher speed than what I'm actually doing , so I haven't really got a good excuse for speeding ) - my speedo is the opposite , when my speedo is reading 60k, it's more like 55K I'm really doing.. I've ( well hubby actually tested it a while back now) tested it by using our GPS. you may think you are driving at 60K by your speedo clock, but you may be doing 65, 70K etc in reality ( there is a 10% tollerence law here on speedo's and yet the "cops " can book you for say doing 65 , 68 etc in a 60 zone, when your legal australian laws speedo is reading 60 and you are totally unaware of the fact you are speeding).

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Old Nov 16th 2004 | 5:19 pm
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About searching your car: I dont think the police have that power without due cause. Other agencies do, for instance the Quarantine people are allowed to search your car for fruit etc if you are driving into a fruit growing area.

What can happen here is the police will be with the Quarantine guys, and basically look over their shoulder to see what is in your car.
 
Old Nov 16th 2004 | 5:26 pm
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Two reports I have seen recenty on search vehicle for Radar Decectors.

No matter how well a detector is hidden if it is detectable by an RDD you can be assured your vehicle will be searched. QLD Task Force Police have lately impounded vehicles in the north and centre of QLD detected with these latest imported radar detectors and taken to stations for dismantling when hasty search failed to find the unit on the spot. http://www.australianradar.com.au/news.htm
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News which has come to hand is that if a police officer detects or suspects you have RD in your vehicle, he cannot search your vehicle for the RD under the "Radar Detector ACT" as we have been lead to believe, the only acts he can search you vehicle under the Stolen Goods Act, and the Drugs Act. Your vehicle is a part of your property and is treated the same way as your house, in that case a warrant would be required. Note that this is a report, and will certainly be investigated further.
http://smack.customer.netspace.net.au/traffic/rd.html
What is right or wrong I have no idea I wonder if the QLD police put the cars back together again ?
 
Old Nov 16th 2004 | 5:42 pm
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I'll go for the second one, it is basically what I have read countless times in the past when I checked up on the laws when I brought a load in. They also can search you here in QLD if they think you are carrying illegal fire arms.. ie putting people in immediate danger. But not for looking for something like a radar detector etc.

P.s I haven't used my radar detector for ages now, it's sitting back home in the house. It was pain in the arse, thinking I'll get caught with it. It wasn't worth my nerves everytime I saw a cop

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Originally Posted by Ceri
P.s I haven't used my radar detector for ages now, it's sitting back home in the house. It was pain in the arse, thinking I'll get caught with it. It wasn't worth my nerves everytime I saw a cop

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That would be my worry, Ceri! I would be a bundle of nerves thinking I'd get caught with it, then I'd be driving erratically because I'm nervous and wind up getting pulled over!
Not worth it in my book... I just drive the limit or a few k under. Don't like it? Pass me on the right!
(Probably doesn't help me that I'm still on my "P" licence anyway )

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Isn't that just as illegal if you get caught?

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It is illegal here however when some shipments were traced the commonwealth government car service was found to be a recipient. Apparently hairspray works but that maybe an urban myth.
 
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Originally Posted by young_lad
Now and again I'll take a look at the forum if there's a particular question I need answering.

Not too long ago I wanted to find out something about tax, but found someone had asked the same thing earlier in the day. I wanted to know about car rego; the forum had been-there-done-that earlier in the day.

I wonder whether the forum is determining my life....

Yesterday, I got a soddin' speeding ticket in the mail. I come on the forum and find a thread on speeding tickets. Today I came home and there's another ticket for me from the same officer on the same road (vendetta perhaps?). I come on the forum and lo and behold the speeding ticket thread has had further posts....

Please, please, please stop contributing to this thread so I can stop getting tickets. I'm currently $256 and 2 demerit points worse off. God knows what the post will bring tomorrow...

Think I might set up bank account for you lot to contribute to ....after all, it's got nothing to do with me exceeding the excruciatingly slow speed limit on the highway..
If you check out the Vic state govt revenue forecast for 2005, you will see that $60m is the target revenue from speeding fines. The more motorists cut their speed to avoid speed traps, perhaps the tolerance margins will also be cut - how long before 2kmh over the limit? State govt can't afford to reduce the number of motorists caught speeding else they won't meet their revenue targets. (Or maybe they'll up the fines instead.)
 

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