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BriBri UK May 5th 2010 4:00 pm

Can anyone help re air conditioning
 
Hi were moving to the Sydney area and have a couple of questions re air conditioning.

Difference between ducted and the ones on the wall?
Which is best any opinions from users or fitters?
Any other types?
Is there a big cost difference for fitting/running
Will I need it in Sydney?
If so how much of the year?

Had a search on here but couldn't come up with much.

claretandblue May 5th 2010 9:37 pm

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 
Hi BriBri hope this helps:

Originally Posted by BriBri UK (Post 8544519)
Hi were moving to the Sydney area and have a couple of questions re air conditioning.

Difference between ducted and the ones on the wall?

Ducted units are normally located in the roofspace with a wired remote controller operating the functions. They are normally zoned to cool bedrooms on one zone and living areas on others. THe beauty of ducted is it can be used to condition all of your house. The split type wall mounts are obviously positioned to cool one area only.

Which is best any opinions from users or fitters?

Ducted cools gradually as it has to condition all the areas whereas split type is pretty instant. I have split type in my house but would prefer ducted if I could afford to install it and use it.
Any other types?

The other type is evaporative, but only really work in dry hot areas, not ideal for Sydney.
Is there a big cost difference for fitting/running

Obviously it depends on the size of house and amount of zones etc but quite a significant difference.
Ducted would probably cost you 3 times as much as split type to install.
A split type is normally fitted on an external wall with the pipework interconnecting electrics and drains dropping within capping to the condenser. This can be installed in a few hours.

I wouldn't install anything but an inverter either. An inverter ramps up and down dependant on load, if it is used correctly and set at an achievable temperature, it will work hard to get close to the required temp then tick over to maintain it.
Practically anything on the market is reverse cycle too so it can be used for heating in the winter.

Will I need it in Sydney?
I don't live in Sydney but went down in Summer and it was bloody hot.
If so how much of the year?

Had a search on here but couldn't come up with much.


comet555 May 6th 2010 4:34 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 
We have ducted and absolutely love it. It keeps all the rooms nice and cool and fairly evenly distributed, plus it looks nicer (as in you don't see the big units on the wall).

Lord_Farquar May 6th 2010 4:48 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by BriBri UK (Post 8544519)
Hi were moving to the Sydney area and have a couple of questions re air conditioning.

Difference between ducted and the ones on the wall?
Which is best any opinions from users or fitters?
Any other types?
Is there a big cost difference for fitting/running
Will I need it in Sydney?
If so how much of the year?

Had a search on here but couldn't come up with much.

You don't need air con in Sydney.

verystormy May 6th 2010 7:08 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 
Agree with the above. You dont "need" it in Sydney. We are in WA - a fair bit hotter and dont have it. Though we have just bought a heater!

ABCDiamond May 6th 2010 9:28 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8545942)
You don't need air con in Sydney.

I disagree. I used the air con more in Sydney than we do now that we live up here in QLD. In both Summer and Winter.

This did actually surprise me, as I expected to need it more here.

BriBri UK May 6th 2010 10:22 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by claretandblue (Post 8545328)
Hi BriBri hope this helps:

Thanks CLARETANDBLUE really helpful appreciate it:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

tartankoala May 6th 2010 10:24 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8545942)
You don't need air con in Sydney.

Do you live in Sydney? I do and I'd advise to get it if you can.

BriBri UK May 6th 2010 10:27 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8546406)
I disagree. I used the air con more in Sydney than we do now that we live up here in QLD. In both Summer and Winter.

This did actually surprise me, as I expected to need it more here.

Really confused now as to whether we will need it.:confused:

We will be living within a 45 minute commute of Sydney probably West away from the Ocean.

Anyone living in that type of area with or without air con care to comment:):)

NickyC May 6th 2010 10:36 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by BriBri UK (Post 8546511)
Really confused now as to whether we will need it.:confused:

We will be living within a 45 minute commute of Sydney probably West away from the Ocean.

Anyone living in that type of area with or without air con care to comment:):)

If you're going to be out west - then you will want it.

We live in Sydney, within sight of the ocean and managed perfectly well with no air conditioning for well over 20 years. On really hot days we got by with fans. We do have it in a few rooms now and whilst it's nice to have, we probably get more benefit from the heating it provides.

It will be completely different if you're 45 minutes west - much hotter in summer (and unfortunately colder in winter too).

iamthecreaturefromuranus May 6th 2010 10:51 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by NickyC (Post 8546526)
If you're going to be out west - then you will want it.

We live in Sydney, within sight of the ocean and managed perfectly well with no air conditioning for well over 20 years. On really hot days we got by with fans. We do have it in a few rooms now and whilst it's nice to have, we probably get more benefit from the heating it provides.

It will be completely different if you're 45 minutes west - much hotter in summer (and unfortunately colder in winter too).

Agree with all that.
I'm about 100k South of Sydney and on the coast and could probably get by without aircon in Summer.... but I wouldn't want to. If you end up in a typical Australian home then you will defo need heating of some description and aircon fits the bill.

We have ducted upstairs and split system downstairs. It's not cheap to run, but I wouldn't want to be without it.

Rudi May 6th 2010 11:21 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8546406)
I disagree. I used the air con more in Sydney than we do now that we live up here in QLD. In both Summer and Winter.

This did actually surprise me, as I expected to need it more here.

I agree! I had ducted in Sydney and used it HEAPS! Mostly in winter actually.

Here in Qld I rarely use it. I have 2 split systems. I probably had them on 3 or 4 times in the summer this year, however, I will have them on most early mornings in the winter.

In Sydney I did live about 30kms from the water, and here in Qld I'm only about 2kms from the water, so maybe that's what makes the difference. Maybe that was the same with you ABC.....you were even more inland that I was in Sydney!

Love

Rudi
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Rudi May 6th 2010 11:22 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by BriBri UK (Post 8546511)
Really confused now as to whether we will need it.:confused:

We will be living within a 45 minute commute of Sydney probably West away from the Ocean.

Anyone living in that type of area with or without air con care to comment:):)


Yes, you will need it! Unbearabley hot in the summer with no breeze and freezing in the winter......literally.....like ice on the car in the morning type freezing.

Love

Rudi
x

BriBri UK May 6th 2010 11:41 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by Rudi (Post 8546637)
Yes, you will need it! Unbearabley hot in the summer with no breeze and freezing in the winter......literally.....like ice on the car in the morning type freezing.

Love

Rudi
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Not quite what I was expecting to hear. In the winter ice on the car!!! They don't advertise that.:thumbdown:

We will be in a rental for at least the first 6 months or so, what will the heating system be like?? Will there be any??:confused:

We have 3 old fan heaters should I bring them with me??:eek::eek:

Rudi May 6th 2010 11:57 am

Re: Can anyone help re air conditioning
 

Originally Posted by BriBri UK (Post 8546683)
Not quite what I was expecting to hear. In the winter ice on the car!!! They don't advertise that.:thumbdown:

We will be in a rental for at least the first 6 months or so, what will the heating system be like?? Will there be any??:confused:

We have 3 old fan heaters should I bring them with me??:eek::eek:

Well I would definitely bring them!!!! I lived in North West Sydney for 5 years and winter was COLD!!! I scraped ice off my car many a time!

It depends on your rental - some will have aircon, some won't.

Love

Rudi
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