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The_Pom_From_Aus Jun 11th 2008 7:45 pm

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JenJen;

Its Arthur here from Melbourne, now girl get yourself to the doctors your emotionally & physically burn out.

I would get the kids into school its as simple as that they will make friends right away, if the kids are happy the parents are then must more relazed, when your a little better get out the house say hello to the neighbours tell them your new here most will talk to you right away, thats the way to make immediate friends it wont take long to make new friends, when you all get invited for a barbie accept then your on your way.

Dont sit round the house it will make things worse, you have done the hard part now so chin up and keep a smile of that face.

Arthur

moneypenny20 Jun 11th 2008 9:02 pm

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Good reply :thumbsup:

michael_w Jun 11th 2008 10:17 pm

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Hi Jen,

I'd forgotten how hard it is during the first few weeks in Oz. We went through the same miserable process of house hunting and settling into unfamiliar areas etc - it DOES get better. You've arrived at the worst time of year - rotten weather and the winter doldrums.

If it's any help we have two boys 10 and 9 and if you're boys want to meet up for a game of footie or to play Playstation this weekend send us a message. We're in the inner west, about 15 mins from Central by train.

cheers

Michael from Leeds
www.sydneyphoto.blogspot.com

penky Jun 12th 2008 6:57 am

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Originally Posted by JenJen (Post 6459434)
Thank you.

I just don't know how anyone can cope with feeling like this for any length of time, the last week and a half has dragged and been some sort of horrible emotional and physical rollercoaster :(.
I've obviously never suffered jetlag before and if this is it I never want to suffer it again, anything vaguely comfy and I sleep in the day but give me a comfy bed at night and I can't sleep, my head is probably wanting to be awake when my family and friends are thats all I can think it is.
I'm covered in bruises as since last Sunday when the tiredness kicked in i've been more than clumsy, still have some beauty bruises from fighting with the suitcases after landing in Sydney, I keep walking into things. If anyone saw me first thing in the morning they'd probably think someone had beaten me up.
I'm running on zero energy, and have dozed most of the day, been sick, dozed some more, poor kids I feel awful, i've tried to take them out, they enjoyed the Castle Hill RSL Tuesday, the ppl were nice I just found it overwhelming and exhausting.
Breathing and walking seem to be exhausting too. If I sit on the sofa i'm a gonna,dozing in minutes and when hubby's here he's the same.

It's been quite a nice day but I feel so out of control of myself we've wasted it, it would have been a great day to take kids out, I should of done shopping too but hubby is now having to do it after he's been at work all day :o
I don't know where to put myself, but I would like to put myself on a plane home.
Just had DS2 saying can we go home as he doesn't like it here and misses his friends and all the family.

Meeting up would be nice if anyone can stomach it, as I seem to get worse rather than better I can't promise a comprehensible conversation though :( :o

Hey Jen :wub:, Im so glad to hear you finally made it after everything, but not so glad to hear your having such a tough time, youve been given good advice by everyone, and I dont have much else to add other than Im thinking of you and I hope things improve. It is early days and please dont be so hard on yourself, give yourself some time to adjust. In the meet up section there is a meet in Castle hill for people and kiddies, maybe you could head along to that??
Is there any way you can have some time to yourself for a few hours to clear your head?
I'll hopefully be back in Sydney in a few months and we could meet up then if you want? go horseriding !! You'll get through this - you are just overwhelmed by everything right now. It will get better, and once you are no longer so sleep deprived you will be able to cope with it easier.

JenJen Jun 12th 2008 10:07 am

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So nice to hear from you Arthur, i've missed our chats.

We've been told we have got the rental at Illawong, we have to go and sort through paperwork this afternoon at the agents.
I am burnt out, I have tried various things but i'm still dopey in the day and struggling not to sleep and then I have a few tears before bedtime (as well as a few through the day), then I go to bed, get to sleep fairly quickly although not compared to when I was asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow back home.
But from 3 am every morning I am wide awake and cannot go back to sleep, this is making the days very very long and I get to now and I feel yuch.

I spoke to my dad for the first time this mornign since we left home and it was lovely to chat to him, but felt a bit sad when he said he had to head for bed :(. I think he will come out for my birthday in August as he said it will give me something to look forward to, I can't wait to see him again just wishing I was seeing him in the Uk.

It's hard to adjust here when every day is just so difficult, I never went into this wanting to fail but the only thing that really keeps me going is the thought of getting on a plane and going home and begging everyone for forgiveness.
Thanks Penky it's been a while

jad n rich Jun 12th 2008 10:27 am

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Originally Posted by JenJen (Post 6461764)
So nice to hear from you Arthur, i've missed our chats.

We've been told we have got the rental at Illawong, we have to go and sort through paperwork this afternoon at the agents.
I am burnt out, I have tried various things but i'm still dopey in the day and struggling not to sleep and then I have a few tears before bedtime (as well as a few through the day), then I go to bed, get to sleep fairly quickly although not compared to when I was asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow back home.
But from 3 am every morning I am wide awake and cannot go back to sleep, this is making the days very very long and I get to now and I feel yuch.

I spoke to my dad for the first time this mornign since we left home and it was lovely to chat to him, but felt a bit sad when he said he had to head for bed :(. I think he will come out for my birthday in August as he said it will give me something to look forward to, I can't wait to see him again just wishing I was seeing him in the Uk.

It's hard to adjust here when every day is just so difficult, I never went into this wanting to fail but the only thing that really keeps me going is the thought of getting on a plane and going home and begging everyone for forgiveness.
Thanks Penky it's been a while

Its impossible to imagine before you land, just how hard and stessful the first few months are for many people. Try and take it one day at a time, set a small goal each day and achieve it then move on to the next thing.

Being alone in a new city with 3 small kids and no family back up is very hard for anyone, if you were close to family in the UK your trying to deal with those emotions too. Would knock the stuffing out of anyone.

Can remember dragging 3 kids round looking for rentals when we first arrived in melb and it was a grey drab wet winter, nothing like the fab new life I had imagined :eek: partner had work, he had family and was fine the rest of us felt like aliens:D

Then we moved to qld and went house hunting, weeks of being stuck in a car, in and out of dozens of houses, in what seemed like 100 degree heat, can remember 2 kids crying, me crying, teenager making threats of going back to UK, oh joy :rofl:

You get there tho :thumbup:

JenJen Jun 12th 2008 10:41 am

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Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 6461807)
Its impossible to imagine before you land, just how hard and stessful the first few months are for many people. Try and take it one day at a time, set a small goal each day and achieve it then move on to the next thing.

Being alone in a new city with 3 small kids and no family back up is very hard for anyone, if you were close to family in the UK your trying to deal with those emotions too. Would knock the stuffing out of anyone.

Can remember dragging 3 kids round looking for rentals when we first arrived in melb and it was a grey drab wet winter, nothing like the fab new life I had imagined :eek: partner had work, he had family and was fine the rest of us felt like aliens:D

Then we moved to qld and went house hunting, weeks of being stuck in a car, in and out of dozens of houses, in what seemed like 100 degree heat, can remember 2 kids crying, me crying, teenager making threats of going back to UK, oh joy :rofl:

You get there tho :thumbup:

You get there ...... home????

Just out of curisoity has anyone tried to split time between the UK and Australia before? how long can you go back for before coming back out again?

I love Melbourne :(
I'm trying very hard to take it a day at a time, honest. I have friends in Melbourne and feel that would make life easier if we were much closer to them, I'm sitting here looking out to a distant view of the blue moutains which is ok and at least it's not raining...... thats about as positive as I can muster, I think our hosts are little fed up of me looking so glum, they don't come through unless hubby is here :(

jad n rich Jun 12th 2008 10:54 am

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Originally Posted by JenJen (Post 6461831)
You get there ...... home????

Just out of curisoity has anyone tried to split time between the UK and Australia before? how long can you go back for before coming back out again?

I love Melbourne :(
I'm trying very hard to take it a day at a time, honest. I have friends in Melbourne and feel that would make life easier if we were much closer to them, I'm sitting here looking out to a distant view of the blue moutains which is ok and at least it's not raining...... thats about as positive as I can muster, I think our hosts are little fed up of me looking so glum, they don't come through unless hubby is here :(


You get there, I mean you get more settled:), your supposed to think of aus as home ;) now.


Think if you have PR, you can come and go as much as you want. Price of airfares for a family 5 would be between 13 and 15 grand now :eek: that tapers the reality a little :eek:

Staying with friends/family on arrival is always hard, we stayed with his family, no humour, snobs, hated kids... moved to rental ASAP :blink: that was a improvement to say the least!!

JoolsB Jun 12th 2008 11:02 am

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Originally Posted by JenJen (Post 6461831)
You get there ...... home????

Just out of curisoity has anyone tried to split time between the UK and Australia before? how long can you go back for before coming back out again?

I love Melbourne :(
I'm trying very hard to take it a day at a time, honest. I have friends in Melbourne and feel that would make life easier if we were much closer to them, I'm sitting here looking out to a distant view of the blue moutains which is ok and at least it's not raining...... thats about as positive as I can muster, I think our hosts are little fed up of me looking so glum, they don't come through unless hubby is here :(

Hi Jenjen

Sorry to read of your hard time. You can swap places with me if you like;) tho' I'm not sure you'd want to trade your 3 boys for my 2 smelly, grumpy dogs:D I am in Melbourne but all my family are in Sydney.

Like you with Melbourne I have more of a "relationship" with Sydney having been born in Blue Mountains and lived in Manly for first 4 years of my life, been back several times, got married there blah blah. I am still finding Melly rather hard going and I've been here 5 months now but I remember the 1st few weeks were the worst when OH was working and I was stuck on my own in a holiday cabin miles out.

It's only very early days for you so just try to stay as calm as possible. Remember nothing is forever and you wont always be in the situation which is currently making you feel so bad!

Take care
Jools x

JenJen Jun 12th 2008 11:18 am

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Originally Posted by JoolsB (Post 6461866)
Hi Jenjen

Sorry to read of your hard time. You can swap places with me if you like;) tho' I'm not sure you'd want to trade your 3 boys for my 2 smelly, grumpy dogs:D I am in Melbourne but all my family are in Sydney.

Like you with Melbourne I have more of a "relationship" with Sydney having been born in Blue Mountains and lived in Manly for first 4 years of my life, been back several times, got married there blah blah. I am still finding Melly rather hard going and I've been here 5 months now but I remember the 1st few weeks were the worst when OH was working and I was stuck on my own in a holiday cabin miles out.

It's only very early days for you so just try to stay as calm as possible. Remember nothing is forever and you wont always be in the situation which is currently making you feel so bad!

Take care
Jools x

Swap - tis a done deal, don't care what hubby says.

I would trade 3 children for 2 smelly dogs actually, be a bit more relaxing i'm sure, I prefer the company of pets and i'm missing my cat badly too, she is very wise and would be by my side all the time when i've been upset, animals are often quite good like that, unlike children who when you're stressed and upset just want to play you up even more.

I keep telling myself if I still hate it in a few months i'll go home with hubby or not, trouble is it's his insistants that we're staying long term that makes me feel so much worse,.

Sorry you're finding it hard too, I hate to think anyone else feels like this, it's even worse than when I was ill for 10 months after DS2 was born, and of course it's only been a week and a half.
How do you get through each day ? Will you be working ?

JoolsB Jun 12th 2008 12:51 pm

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Originally Posted by JenJen (Post 6461894)
Swap - tis a done deal, don't care what hubby says.

I would trade 3 children for 2 smelly dogs actually, be a bit more relaxing i'm sure, I prefer the company of pets and i'm missing my cat badly too, she is very wise and would be by my side all the time when i've been upset, animals are often quite good like that, unlike children who when you're stressed and upset just want to play you up even more.

I keep telling myself if I still hate it in a few months i'll go home with hubby or not, trouble is it's his insistants that we're staying long term that makes me feel so much worse,.

Sorry you're finding it hard too, I hate to think anyone else feels like this, it's even worse than when I was ill for 10 months after DS2 was born, and of course it's only been a week and a half.
How do you get through each day ? Will you be working ?

Ahhh-I agree it's bad psychology for hubby to tell you "this is it". Even if he secretly feels he does want you all to stay forever some comforting words are what's needed. Chances are you could grow to love it there but you need to feel some connection with home still right now and when we are told we can never go back it certainly doesn't help.

I have applied for a number of jobs and sent CV to big recruitment agencies but to no avail-no-one even bother replying:unsure:. Trouble is as we are quite a way out (due to financial reasons & last years property boom) it limits where I can work. So I have gone from a working London wife with lots to say to a stay at home in the 'burbs wifey with nothing to report-aaaargh! The excitement of my day is a dog walk around the back streets. Still my cooking is improving!

Luckily hubby has agreed if nothing improves we will go home in a year as Aus isn't really giving him what he came for either-he has had to return to the career & long hours he thought he'd left behind for money reasons. But, we may love it in a year who knows and so might you!

BTW my dogs just run into the other room to avoid me if I'm upset-but that's probably because they're male!:sneaky:

JenJen Jun 12th 2008 1:10 pm

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Originally Posted by JoolsB (Post 6462058)
Ahhh-I agree it's bad psychology for hubby to tell you "this is it". Even if he secretly feels he does want you all to stay forever some comforting words are what's needed. Chances are you could grow to love it there but you need to feel some connection with home still right now and when we are told we can never go back it certainly doesn't help.

I have applied for a number of jobs and sent CV to big recruitment agencies but to no avail-no-one even bother replying:unsure:. Trouble is as we are quite a way out (due to financial reasons & last years property boom) it limits where I can work. So I have gone from a working London wife with lots to say to a stay at home in the 'burbs wifey with nothing to report-aaaargh! The excitement of my day is a dog walk around the back streets. Still my cooking is improving!

Luckily hubby has agreed if nothing improves we will go home in a year as Aus isn't really giving him what he came for either-he has had to return to the career & long hours he thought he'd left behind for money reasons. But, we may love it in a year who knows and so might you!

BTW my dogs just run into the other room to avoid me if I'm upset-but that's probably because they're male!:sneaky:

ahh yes male dogs...... male of any species tends to be the same, hubby just puts his tail between his legs and was that desperate to get away from my tears that last night he went out into the dark and stood outside like a muppet, he said he was on the phone to someone but whatever....

If I could get a cast iron guaruntee from my hubby we'd go home in a few months or a year I would feel so much happier, but he's like Jeckyll and hyde one minute he says one thing then even an hour later he can contradict himself.......
Not a great place to be obviously when your hubby is being such a man, yours sounds a bit more supportive.
I can't imagine how you feel, in a way I do have the kids to distract me but then again thats not always a help, maybe a female dog would have been more sympathetic ?!!!!!!
Sometimes I just want to be on my own instead of having little man saying mummy mummy mummy mummy mummy mummy mummy ever 5 minutes.
I do like it when he goes to bed I can hear myself think then.

My dad is super supportive think they broke the mold when they made my dad as I couldn't ask for better, that makes it harder as when hubby is being well his usual self I can't chat to dad when I want or need to anymore :(

katsmajic Jun 12th 2008 1:46 pm

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Hi Jen,
It does get easier, honest.
Now you have the rental sorted get round the local schools and register your kids they need some normallity too. Theyl make friends and most importantly have something to talk to you about not whinge at you, and theyl be tired so they can get off to bed, you and your hubby need to chat, negotiate a year or 2 year point where you can sit and down and evaluate your move over/lifestlye etc.
Go to your local library, get some books etc, take some chill time, dont worry about rushing round etc, nothing is going anywhere. Find a cafe with the beautiful sights that you came here for and savour them on your own.

Weve settled extremely well but that doesnt mean to say itl always feel so good, so im prepared.
My mums been my best friend all my life - i certainly cant go find another one like her...she says booking her holiday over her is what kept her strong when we left her. Keep in as much touch as poss with your dad, even postcards, cos you know theyl make him smile when he receives them.

Keep your chin up, ride the storms etc, just think forwards to when the weather improves and just how much you can do with the kids then. xxx

JoolsB Jun 12th 2008 1:48 pm

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Originally Posted by JenJen (Post 6462102)
ahh yes male dogs...... male of any species tends to be the same, hubby just puts his tail between his legs and was that desperate to get away from my tears that last night he went out into the dark and stood outside like a muppet, he said he was on the phone to someone but whatever....

If I could get a cast iron guaruntee from my hubby we'd go home in a few months or a year I would feel so much happier, but he's like Jeckyll and hyde one minute he says one thing then even an hour later he can contradict himself.......
Not a great place to be obviously when your hubby is being such a man, yours sounds a bit more supportive.
I can't imagine how you feel, in a way I do have the kids to distract me but then again thats not always a help, maybe a female dog would have been more sympathetic ?!!!!!!
Sometimes I just want to be on my own instead of having little man saying mummy mummy mummy mummy mummy mummy mummy ever 5 minutes.
I do like it when he goes to bed I can hear myself think then.

My dad is super supportive think they broke the mold when they made my dad as I couldn't ask for better, that makes it harder as when hubby is being well his usual self I can't chat to dad when I want or need to anymore :(


Most guys just don't react in the same way as us women do when someone's upset-they cant help it-it's just not really in their make up & one of the many reason why female friends are such a life saver. Sounds like you & your father have a really strong bond which makes it harder starting a new life 12000 miles away but he is still there thinking of you and I'm sure if you needed to call him at an 'odd' time he wouldn't mind.

Your husband loves you and of course wouldn't want you to live a miserable life somewhere you dislike. I guess he is just hoping it is early days & what you are feeling is run of the mill homesickness and post-emigration stress which will pass and it may well be & may well do. I sincerely hope so:)

Have the 2 of you had time to sit down and have a sensible, non-emotional (as much as possible!) conversation about how you feel? Hard tho' it can be to keep the tears in when you feel this low I find my OH always responds far better on the odd occasion I am a bit more practical in my reasons rather than hysterical!

Remember no-one can force you to stay anywhere-you are your own person but do try and give it a bit longer before making any big decisions. What smaller changes could you make now to improve things here?

JenJen Jun 12th 2008 10:38 pm

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We looked at a school the boys could go to today, it was ok...
We also found a nice day care place for little man, the first 2 weren't helpful so we went 10 minutes out from where we'll be staying and that seems nice too, he likes it anyway , he didn't want to leave, bear in mind he's been bored, few toys to play with and happy old me, I couldn't blame him for not wanting to leave.

Although a positive step it hasn't changed my mind about anything, I still don't feel warm to Sydney as a place.


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