British Passport or not?
Jun 14th 2004, 3:26 am
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British Passport or not?
18 year old son going back to work in UK. Easy but two of his aussie high school mates want to go with him.
The problem.
One boy was born in Australia, australian father, but UK mother.
On the british commission website loads of info about people with UK grandparents but nothing about UK Parent???
So if an 18 year old aussie kid has an english mum with a UK passport can he apply for a UK passport or not?? If so should he use a normal C1 form.
Just an offchance one of you would know. You know what its like when you are 18 you must know now
The problem.
One boy was born in Australia, australian father, but UK mother.
On the british commission website loads of info about people with UK grandparents but nothing about UK Parent???
So if an 18 year old aussie kid has an english mum with a UK passport can he apply for a UK passport or not?? If so should he use a normal C1 form.
Just an offchance one of you would know. You know what its like when you are 18 you must know now
Jun 14th 2004, 3:39 am
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Re: British Passport or not?
If he's aged only 18 then he must have been born in 1983 or later, so the rules are ...
... As long as his mother was born or naturalised in the UK, then he is a British citizen by descent and has been so from birth.
He should just apply for a British passport. He'll need to provide a copy of his mother's UK birth or naturalisation certificate, plus whatever other documents the High Commission asks for.
The following page on the UK Home Office website should be useful:
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?PageId=148
He needs to be aware that if he himself has children born outside the UK, they will not automatically be British (but can be registered as such in certain circumstances) unless they get British citizenship from their mother.
What you mentioned regarding grandparents is the Ancestry Visa - usually a British grandparent does not make you a British citizen, so the ancestry visa is an immigration visa instead.
Finally - is your own son an Australian citizen or not? If not, is he fully up to speed on the RRV rules and the problems he will have coming back to Australia if he stays in the UK too long?
Jeremy
... As long as his mother was born or naturalised in the UK, then he is a British citizen by descent and has been so from birth.
He should just apply for a British passport. He'll need to provide a copy of his mother's UK birth or naturalisation certificate, plus whatever other documents the High Commission asks for.
The following page on the UK Home Office website should be useful:
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?PageId=148
He needs to be aware that if he himself has children born outside the UK, they will not automatically be British (but can be registered as such in certain circumstances) unless they get British citizenship from their mother.
What you mentioned regarding grandparents is the Ancestry Visa - usually a British grandparent does not make you a British citizen, so the ancestry visa is an immigration visa instead.
Finally - is your own son an Australian citizen or not? If not, is he fully up to speed on the RRV rules and the problems he will have coming back to Australia if he stays in the UK too long?
Jeremy
Originally posted by jad n rich
18 year old son going back to work in UK. Easy but two of his aussie high school mates want to go with him.
The problem.
One boy was born in Australia, australian father, but UK mother.
On the british commission website loads of info about people with UK grandparents but nothing about UK Parent???
So if an 18 year old aussie kid has an english mum with a UK passport can he apply for a UK passport or not?? If so should he use a normal C1 form.
Just an offchance one of you would know. You know what its like when you are 18 you must know now
18 year old son going back to work in UK. Easy but two of his aussie high school mates want to go with him.
The problem.
One boy was born in Australia, australian father, but UK mother.
On the british commission website loads of info about people with UK grandparents but nothing about UK Parent???
So if an 18 year old aussie kid has an english mum with a UK passport can he apply for a UK passport or not?? If so should he use a normal C1 form.
Just an offchance one of you would know. You know what its like when you are 18 you must know now
Jun 14th 2004, 3:45 am
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Re: British Passport or not?
Originally posted by jad n rich
18 year old son going back to work in UK. Easy but two of his aussie high school mates want to go with him.
The problem.
One boy was born in Australia, australian father, but UK mother.
On the british commission website loads of info about people with UK grandparents but nothing about UK Parent???
So if an 18 year old aussie kid has an english mum with a UK passport can he apply for a UK passport or not?? If so should he use a normal C1 form.
Just an offchance one of you would know. You know what its like when you are 18 you must know now
18 year old son going back to work in UK. Easy but two of his aussie high school mates want to go with him.
The problem.
One boy was born in Australia, australian father, but UK mother.
On the british commission website loads of info about people with UK grandparents but nothing about UK Parent???
So if an 18 year old aussie kid has an english mum with a UK passport can he apply for a UK passport or not?? If so should he use a normal C1 form.
Just an offchance one of you would know. You know what its like when you are 18 you must know now
See (b) below from
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?PageId=145
7. Will a child who is born on or after 1 January 1983 outside the United Kingdom be a British citizen?
Yes, the child will be a British citizen if either:
(a) he or she is born on or after 21 May 2002 in a qualifying territory (see Note 6) and one of the parents (see Note 4) is a British citizen or settled in the United Kingdom or that territory (the child will be a British citizen otherwise than by descent); or
(b) one of his or her parents is a British citizen otherwise than by descent, for example by birth, adoption registration or naturalisation in the United Kingdom (the child will be a British citizen by descent); or
(c) one of his or her parents is a British citizen in Crown service under the government of the United Kingdom or of a qualifying territory (see Note 6) at the time of the birth or in service which has been designated as closely associated with the activities of Her Majesty's government or the government of a qualifying territory outside the United Kingdom and the qualifying territories, as long as the parent was recruited for service (of either kind) in the United Kingdom or a qualifying territory (the child will be a British citizen otherwise than by descent); or
(d) one of his or her parents is a British citizen working outside the United Kingdom and the qualifying territories (see Note 6) for a European Community institution at the time of the birth, as long as the parent was recruited in a country which was a member of the European Communities at the time of the recruitment. (The child will be a British citizen otherwise than by descent).
Women have been able to pass on citizenship to their children born abroad since 1 January 1983. (This was not the case before 1 January 1983).
If a child born abroad is not a British citizen to start with, he or she may be able to register as a British citizen. If you have any questions, please contact the Home Office at the address given below, or, if you are living overseas, your nearest Embassy, Consulate or High Commission.
Jun 14th 2004, 3:50 am
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Re: British Passport or not?
Originally posted by JAJ
If he's aged only 18 then he must have been born in 1983 or later, so the rules are ...
... As long as his mother was born or naturalised in the UK, then he is a British citizen by descent and has been so from birth.
He should just apply for a British passport. He'll need to provide a copy of his mother's UK birth or naturalisation certificate, plus whatever other documents the High Commission asks for.
The following page on the UK Home Office website should be useful:
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?PageId=148
He needs to be aware that if he himself has children born outside the UK, they will not automatically be British (but can be registered as such in certain circumstances) unless they get British citizenship from their mother.
What you mentioned regarding grandparents is the Ancestry Visa - usually a British grandparent does not make you a British citizen, so the ancestry visa is an immigration visa instead.
Finally - is your own son an Australian citizen or not? If not, is he fully up to speed on the RRV rules and the problems he will have coming back to Australia if he stays in the UK too long?
Jeremy
If he's aged only 18 then he must have been born in 1983 or later, so the rules are ...
... As long as his mother was born or naturalised in the UK, then he is a British citizen by descent and has been so from birth.
He should just apply for a British passport. He'll need to provide a copy of his mother's UK birth or naturalisation certificate, plus whatever other documents the High Commission asks for.
The following page on the UK Home Office website should be useful:
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?PageId=148
He needs to be aware that if he himself has children born outside the UK, they will not automatically be British (but can be registered as such in certain circumstances) unless they get British citizenship from their mother.
What you mentioned regarding grandparents is the Ancestry Visa - usually a British grandparent does not make you a British citizen, so the ancestry visa is an immigration visa instead.
Finally - is your own son an Australian citizen or not? If not, is he fully up to speed on the RRV rules and the problems he will have coming back to Australia if he stays in the UK too long?
Jeremy
All my sons were born in the UK but we have Aus citizenship and 2 (UK and AUS) lots of passports so he should be fine.
See there are now 2 replies thanks to both of you.
Last edited by jad n rich; Jun 14th 2004 at 3:54 am.
