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Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
It's all semantics. At the end of the day you sit in front of somebody and it comes down to whether you hit it off with the interviewers.
I understand what you mean about a 2ii as my nephew took 3 years to get a job in QS. Bear in mind that the UK economy tanked more than the Aus one during GFC. Now, he is getting approached after 2 years experience and his boss has asked him to give him a chance to better any offer. |
Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
My understanding from doing a degree with hons was that the honours just means that part of the study is completed without direct instruction and is not taught. So you complete either a thesis or a dissertation. So it should not really matter whether that has been completed as part of a 3 year degree or as an extra year. To employers it should represent the same skill set. Does that make sense?
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Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
oh and on my cv/ resume i just wrote by degree as i would in the uk, and put down the university from which it was gained from.
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Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
Paralysis by analysis
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Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 11641647)
Paralysis by analysis
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Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
I hear CV more than resume here.
I have no idea what area the OP is in. Possibly employers wouldn't care how you write it. Uni degree = Higher education - tick in the box. As so many people go to Uni now it's just another applicant. Other things might be more important. |
Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11640184)
True enough - I've been here 8 years, and never had anybody even ask to look at my certificates.
May be different for professional registrations though... S To be honest, sounds like the Australia Hons tag absolutely means more. Almost equivalent to a MA in the sense of unsupervised work done. So a UK Hons might look better than it really is. There are people who did no dissertation for their Hons in the UK, and the dissertation is the bit that people often remember or ask about - until a few years afterwards...in some fields. |
Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
In my experience, if you gain an Hons degree from wherever, then say it. Who cares whether it is comparable. If from a Scottish uni, it will have more credibility than a prestigious Ugandan one.
I thought that actually stating the class of degree (as in a business card qual'n) was incorrect unless in the narrative of a CV, (may be wrong here though and reflects a typical pommie desire not to boast!) but I see many pretentious peeps do, then when I meet them, I actually wonder how they got into uni in the first place, never mind getting a degree! I have found that not mentioning the class leaves a talking point if raised, and if not, so what. TD |
Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11640184)
True enough - I've been here 8 years, and never had anybody even ask to look at my certificates.
May be different for professional registrations though... S It would be pretty clear within a few days whether you could do the job or not |
Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
Originally Posted by Toe Dipper
(Post 11641846)
In my experience, if you gain an Hons degree from wherever, then say it. Who cares whether it is comparable. If from a Scottish uni, it will have more credibility than a prestigious Ugandan one.
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Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
I'm doing a MBA and a MSc and don't know how the standard compares to overseas as I have no reference - it feels like the standard set is high. All I know is that people come from all over the world to study what I am studying and the academics are from all over the world too
We are pushed hard and a lot is expected of us. If I submitted shit work, I'd get a shit mark. End of |
Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
Originally Posted by gordondownunder
(Post 11641618)
My understanding from doing a degree with hons was that the honours just means that part of the study is completed without direct instruction and is not taught.
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Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
An example resume might help with format - as mentioned by some others yes include (hons) in the title of your degree...
http://www.careers.qut.edu.au/studen...%20Writing.pdf - with grad jobs the resume isn't the most important document - how you answer behavioural questions online, or how you write selection criteria responses are important as they are scored and assessed and get you an interview: http://www.careers.qut.edu.au/studen...n_Criteria.pdf Good luck! :thumbsup:
Originally Posted by northlondoner
(Post 11639315)
Hi,
I am moving to Oz in August and I will hopefully be graduating with a 2.1 but maybe a 2.2 if the worst happens (depending on what I get for my dissertation). Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to write this on a CV/Resume in Australia and I would be grateful if anyone could answer the following: 1) Here we would write "BA (Hons) subject x...degree class: Upper second" or "BA (Hons) subject x...degree class: Lower second". I presume in Australia it would be the same format, but replace 2.1 and 2.2 with Distinction and Credit, respectively. 2) As I understand it, in Oz, a three year degree is a BA, whereas a three year degree plus an extra top up makes it a BA (Hons). Does my three year Honours degree translate to an Honours degree in Australia? 3) I hear of people here having trouble to get a good graduate job if they graduate with a 2.2 because many employers frown upon this degree class, and many employers demand that graduates have at least a 2.1 (Australian Distinction) - is this exactly the same in Oz? Do employers attach the same importance to this cut-off point of a 2.1? Thanks :) |
Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
Is TAFE as good/better than degree here? Some people I talk to seem to think so.
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Re: British Degree Class conversion in Australia
Originally Posted by rabble_rouser
(Post 11681133)
Is TAFE as good/better than degree here? Some people I talk to seem to think so.
It depends on what you want to do - TAFE only really offer vocational education - so it's great of you want to become a plumber or an electrician, but pretty hopeless if you wanted to become a surgeon. S |
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