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bundy Jan 8th 2004 12:05 am


Originally posted by MrsDagboy
He lives in Nundle, doesnt he? ;) :D

Well, if he doesn't, his twin does!

bundy Jan 8th 2004 12:06 am


Originally posted by bundy
Well, if he doesn't, his twin does!
Hang on a minute - here's wearing a flanno. He must be a stereotype (referring to the Badge thread)

podgypossum Jan 8th 2004 12:06 am

pleased to hear things are going well DB..keep it up girl!!

I not sure of the ingredients i am allowed Bundy, but hte best one for me is supposed to be Rye bread or one that has a very high whole grain content. This is so that the glucose form the carbohydrate is released much slower into the blood stream.

bundy Jan 8th 2004 12:07 am


Originally posted by podgypossum
pleased to hear things are going well DB..keep it up girl!!

I not sure of the ingredients i am allowed Bundy, but hte best one for me is supposed to be Rye bread or one that has a very high whole grain content. This is so that the glucose form the carbohydrate is released much slower into the blood stream.

Thought that might be the case. I shall get my parents to scan through their recipe book and see what comes up. I know there is a rye bread recipe in there...

podgypossum Jan 8th 2004 12:08 am

Awww..thanx Bundy ..you are a star!

bundy Jan 8th 2004 12:11 am


Originally posted by podgypossum
Awww..thanx Bundy ..you are a star!
No worries. Us endocrinologically challenged members must stick together!

podgypossum Jan 8th 2004 12:12 am

oh..you ogt it too!!..wow..we have an endo club going..LOL :D

bundy Jan 8th 2004 12:14 am


Originally posted by podgypossum
oh..you ogt it too!!..wow..we have an endo club going..LOL :D
Hypothyroidism (crappy underactive thyroid) in my case. Diabetic cousin too.

podgypossum Jan 8th 2004 12:16 am

I think thats what my SIL had... she had her thyroid removed last year and reckons it has changed her life..she much better now

bundy Jan 8th 2004 12:18 am


Originally posted by podgypossum
pleased to hear things are going well DB..keep it up girl!!

I not sure of the ingredients i am allowed Bundy, but hte best one for me is supposed to be Rye bread or one that has a very high whole grain content. This is so that the glucose form the carbohydrate is released much slower into the blood stream.
Here's some recipes pilfered off the web for starters...you can basically make any bread in a breadmaker if you fiddle about with the recipes...

http://www.healthy-diabetic-recipes....d_Recipes.html

bundy Jan 8th 2004 12:19 am


Originally posted by podgypossum
I think thats what my SIL had... she had her thyroid removed last year and reckons it has changed her life..she much better now
She probably had hyperthyroidism (overactive) when they need to remove the damn thing because it's out of control. Mine barely works at all, and thus I need all the help I can get!

jandjuk Jan 8th 2004 12:39 am

ooo I do miss bakers delight.... especially the aforementioned turkish bread.

I'm probably not looking in the right place, but it does seem to me that British bread has hardly looked beyond france (with the exception of india), and to continue my moan, all the sliced bread I buy seems to be burnt on the top. Is that how you Brits like your bread??? Burnt on top?? lol

I think the range of breads in NZ is better but I dunno about Oz.

I think the bread thing is indicative - in many ways British (& European) food is very traditional - fusion food is much bigger in Aus & NZ (though Britain does have curry and chips!), and I think in general people are more open to trying foods from many different parts of the world (and adapting them).

In Europe it tends to be standard Italian, standard French bread, standard British etc etc - nothing wrong with that at all - often absolutely delicious in fact, but in NZ you often find things such as banana, chicken & cranberry jelly pizza! (and many other concoctions you would never think of trying...)

podgypossum Jan 8th 2004 12:43 am

Thanx for the link Bundy

i have to disagree J

I not sure where you ar eliving in UK, but London is very multicultual in its cuisine.
From West Indian right through to Mongolian!!

OzTennis Jan 8th 2004 12:55 am


Originally posted by Megalania
Packet of matches $A 0.40, 10 boxes / packet, 50 matches / box. 1 match = $0.40 / (10 x 50) = $A 0.0008
http://www.websiteconcepts.com.au/ma.../billy_tea.jpg
Brilliant Megs, I should have set up my camp fire and made the tea (and damper) on the floor of the restaurant shouldn't I - stuff this £1.50 for a measly pot of tea lark.:D

Back to the bread, I agree with the comments about how good the bread is from Bakers Delight and Brumby's. In Williamstown they also have a Ferguson Plarre (some Melbournites will be familiar with them) and a Greek guy has a Hot Bake. His bread (over 20 varieties) and pies (over 10 varieties) are both unbelievably good and he does these incredible specials like 6 coffee scrolls for $2 at the weekend. Do we really want bread that is irradiated or has preservatives added so it lasts for almost a week? Just pop into one of the above every other day and have fresh, good stuff all the time.

OzTennis :)

walaj Jan 8th 2004 5:22 am

I was going to post this morning, but did'nt have time - since then the number of posts have risen quicker than the bread on rapid setting. :D

We normal load the ingrediants late evening, set to finish a bit before we get up. Once it becomes part of the routine it get done.

One tip we have followed for white bread is to put a bit of brown flour in (say 360g/100g) - it doesnt rise as much (but still v good) and makes it easier for cutting.

I also love adding extras like dried tomatoes or tomatoe puree or poppy seeds etc

we usually have a shop bought baps in the freezer for burgers and back up it we have not bothered to make bread :)

walaj Jan 8th 2004 5:24 am

other tips:

remember to put the yeast in - bread is not suppose to weigh and feel like a stone :D

remember to put the kneading blade back in after washing, otherwise bread is a gooey mess. :rolleyes:

debsy Jan 8th 2004 6:18 am

I have a Kenwood. Don't use it much for bread though as I find it hard to cut in thin slices!!!!

I do, however, use the dough cycle a lot for making pizza bases and cinnabon rolls and bun dough etc.

I think there must be a lack of preservatives in the bread you buy if it is going stale quickly.

teach Jan 8th 2004 6:19 am

Hiya,

I have a bread maker and love it. The only problem is that I was making fresh bread everyday and put on tons of weight. :(
The ready mixed packs are the best to use, or at least that is what I found. A timer on machine is a must, set it before you go to bed and hey presto, hot bread in the morning for breccie. Yummy, mouth is watering just thinking about it.

Regards
Sarah

lesleys Jan 8th 2004 7:01 am

Hi,
I've got a Prima bread machine and go through phases of using it a lot, then ignoring it for months. It took a bit of trial and error to get the hang of it but it makes a lovely granary loaf, and more worryingly, a great raisin loaf. You have to get the temperature of the water just right and put the ingredients in in the right order. I also find it good for making wholemeal/white mixed baquettes by just using the machine to make the dough then cooking the bread in the normal oven.

I just took my yoghurt maker to the charity shop - useless. Can't you get Easi-Yo there? It's a NZ thing available in the UK and people fair rave about it.

I'm geting hungry.

debsy Jan 8th 2004 7:07 am

OMG:scared: A life without Yogurt!!!!!!

Only joking. We eat loads of plain yougurt. Usually get through about 3 kg of plain yogurt a week as we use for meze etc and in soups etc, etc. Looks likeI will be having a big shopping bill:(

bondipom Jan 8th 2004 7:16 am


Originally posted by jandjuk
ooo I do miss bakers delight.... especially the aforementioned turkish bread.

I'm probably not looking in the right place, but it does seem to me that British bread has hardly looked beyond france (with the exception of india), and to continue my moan, all the sliced bread I buy seems to be burnt on the top. Is that how you Brits like your bread??? Burnt on top?? lol

I think the range of breads in NZ is better but I dunno about Oz.

I think the bread thing is indicative - in many ways British (& European) food is very traditional - fusion food is much bigger in Aus & NZ (though Britain does have curry and chips!), and I think in general people are more open to trying foods from many different parts of the world (and adapting them).

In Europe it tends to be standard Italian, standard French bread, standard British etc etc - nothing wrong with that at all - often absolutely delicious in fact, but in NZ you often find things such as banana, chicken & cranberry jelly pizza! (and many other concoctions you would never think of trying...)
LOL

British food is not something I miss. London is multicultural and you can find lots of varieties of food but it is expensive and too often poorly made with bad ingredients.

The British attitude to bread is far too often white, tasteless and cheap. I like the attitude to food that the post war Europeans have brought to Australia. In the local corner shop there is always fresh bread including leb bread, turkish and other good types.

jeannie Jan 8th 2004 8:23 am


Originally posted by podgypossum
OK..so now i am curious..

What is the best make and model of breamaker? As some people seem to have more success than others maybe its the quality of the equipment


Hello Mrs DB... hows things on posterior reduction (not allowed to be on a diet!!) :D

Stay away from bread...:scared: very high in Carbs, lots of Carbs lots of Posterior.......:D

ABCDiamond Jan 8th 2004 9:45 am

Re: bread
 

Originally posted by podgypossum
oooh..you romantic fool you... :rolleyes:
I do try :), and my wife must think I am doing Ok, as she agrees that I am trying :)

MrsDagboy Jan 8th 2004 9:47 am

Re: bread
 

Originally posted by ABCDiamond
I do try :), and my wife must think I am doing Ok, as she agrees that I am trying :)
Very trying? ;) :)

ABCDiamond Jan 8th 2004 9:49 am


Originally posted by Simone82
We have a bread maker. It's good and quite easy, but still can't be bothered to make it half the time, but that's cos I'm lazy.
And I can't get those ready bread packs cheaply.
And the breads that do come out are quite small. So all in all it's easier and cheaper buying here (in Holland)
And you do get very good bread in Holland.

Can we get some price comparisons of Bread ?
Standard White sliced loaf in UK ? and Holland if they do them ( I can't remember eating sliced bread in Holland when I was there, I always had the good stuff:) )

ABCDiamond Jan 8th 2004 9:50 am

Re: bread
 

Originally posted by MrsDagboy
Very trying? ;) :)
Very VERY :D :D

ANA123 Jan 8th 2004 10:00 am

I love my Morphy Richards breadmaker, for anyone thinking of buying one I'd recomend checking the shape of the tin as a lot of the compact ones produce funny tower shaped loaves.
I find that using olive oil in most recipes rather than butter/ veg oil/other fat stops the doughy texture.
My favourite recipe is a yummy walnut bread mmmm... that said mines in semi-retirement at the moment in aid of the diet!

topcat Jan 8th 2004 11:21 am

Re: bread
 

Originally posted by sophia
Dunno about where you are but our local Brumbys is ACE! They are one of only a handful of bakeries that don't put that weird preservative in their bread (well known one that makes kids with ADHD more hyper)....that could also explain why it doesn't last as long. Mind you bread never lasts more than a day or two in our house....how long do you keep it for??:confused:

I was thinking to go with my new vegetarian lifestyle, why not go the whole hog and start making my own bread....and then I remembered....I'm WAY too lazy for all that palarver...bring on Brumbys I say (Rye bread of course for my posterier reducing regimen ;) )

love sophia xxx
Hi Sophia,
One of my local franchises of Brumby's was briefly shut down for `hygiene problems'... and it's generally shut when I get home from work - too lazy to go in the morning. I've found after two days it's stale and I end up chucking the rest in the bin, but I'd never though of putting it in the fridge.

I'll have a look out for Baker's delight - thanks Mrs D
TC

Megalania Jan 8th 2004 2:04 pm

Women's work (posteria reducer):

http://www.awd.org.au/img/grinding_stone.jpg


High tech posteria reducer:

http://www.grainmills.com.au/images/grinder.jpg

MrsDagboy Jan 8th 2004 2:29 pm


Originally posted by Megalania
Women's work (posteria reducer):

http://www.awd.org.au/img/grinding_stone.jpg


High tech posteria reducer:

http://www.grainmills.com.au/images/grinder.jpg
That top one looks like what happens after the said posterior has been sitting on there :D .

MrsDagboy Jan 8th 2004 2:33 pm

Here you go Clare (I hope Im spelling that right BTW), I put in Toowong cos I think you were somewhere in that area, but if Im wrong you can change it easily :) .

Bakers delight store locator

topcat Jan 8th 2004 3:13 pm

Thanks! I've been mistaking the bread place in the shopping centre for a Brumby's when it's really a Baker's Delight. Anyway all that walking to and from the shops is good for the old posterior!

The BD site is interesting; apparently they now have a fancy till which tells them when a particular bread is running low. I'd a thought a quick look at the shelf would have told them that in half the time...

For those on the reducing posterior path, do you have any good suggestions for (breadless) quick packed lunches?

Clare

Simone Jan 8th 2004 6:27 pm


Originally posted by ABCDiamond
And you do get very good bread in Holland.

Can we get some price comparisons of Bread ?
Standard White sliced loaf in UK ? and Holland if they do them ( I can't remember eating sliced bread in Holland when I was there, I always had the good stuff:) )
We always get the cheapest sliced bread there is! At the supermarket. Lots of sliced bread! :)
Actually second cheapest.
Cheapest is around 70 eurocents I think, stuff I get is around 80?

Anyway, it's just the two of us, and I keep it in the freezer. Not to happy about the quality, but it'll do :D

bundy Jan 8th 2004 7:48 pm

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Right, I promised you all my dad's tried and tested breadmaker bread recipe, so here it is....

PS - Podgypossum, no luck on the rye bread recipe yet, but will try again.:D

jandjuk Jan 8th 2004 9:19 pm

on the youghurt....

we used to have an easiyo in NZ. very useful and easy - but then I did the maths one day and compared the cost of buying as per normal against making it, and the cost was about the same.

it didn't seem worth the effort.


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