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Richard007 Sep 22nd 2007 12:23 am

Re: bit down in down under
 
hang in there mate...wheres the british bulldog?? dont forget if your positive..positive things happen to you...if your negative......the same..change your state of mind! Its just an experience. your not going to die...just enjoy it.

hope you stay...This is Australia ...and your living here. You have achieved so much just doing that....think positive and let the good times roll !!

mines a lager :eek:

Rhia27 Sep 22nd 2007 2:33 am

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by peterpamandryan (Post 5333798)
hi folks,i havnt posted since feb this year just before we flew out,and im afraid i hate to do this but weve hit the 6 month wall,lads results in school getting worse rather than better after a great start and weve all had the big arguement "i hate it here its crap i wanna go home"im gutted ive actually snook a look at flights tonight,were all working soo hard to settle i think weve took our eye off what really matters,i was promised good dollars for being a carpenter/joiner but you need a liscence and you cant get it that easy so im stuck in a workshop getting $20 an hour!!!!!!!!!!! until i can sort a better job,i really dont want to moan and ive made a point of not doing so to anyone here but im a long way from home and needed an outlet,is it gonna get easier ????


Dont want to burst your bubble but $20ph without a licence is not so bad.

With a licence and working on minesite (probably on a 4:1) you could double that at least so hang in there

Bobcat Sep 22nd 2007 5:04 am

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by daveplumber (Post 5340939)
Hey bobcat plumber here in your wonderful suburb i bet you are not far from me, we are moving into greenhaven glades off rustic drive
dave

Panorama Place runs off Greenhaven Glades and our joint backs onto Panorama Place. You wouldn't even be 5 minutes away from us so you'll have to pop round to say G'uday.

soulrebel Sep 22nd 2007 5:57 am

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Originally Posted by Bobcat (Post 5340774)
Absolutely............ the government had taken enough off me in taxes when i was single prior to us returning to Perth as a family.

Mind you; wasn't on the Dole by choice............. would have much rather worked than draw Dole money.

Aah! you were there before then. Don't you have to be there 2 years for them to consider giving you social welfare payments. Or am I wrong?

soulrebel Sep 22nd 2007 5:58 am

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by Catch (Post 5340863)
OH was on just under $20 when we arrived, had a pay rise since - not bad. Are you on PR and claiming centre link. This helped us out at the beginning.


Whats centre link?

Australia_bound? Sep 22nd 2007 10:30 am

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by peterpamandryan (Post 5333798)
hi folks,i havnt posted since feb this year just before we flew out,and im afraid i hate to do this but weve hit the 6 month wall,lads results in school getting worse rather than better after a great start and weve all had the big arguement "i hate it here its crap i wanna go home"im gutted ive actually snook a look at flights tonight,were all working soo hard to settle i think weve took our eye off what really matters,i was promised good dollars for being a carpenter/joiner but you need a liscence and you cant get it that easy so im stuck in a workshop getting $20 an hour!!!!!!!!!!! until i can sort a better job,i really dont want to moan and ive made a point of not doing so to anyone here but im a long way from home and needed an outlet,is it gonna get easier ????

Can't fathom why you don't feel you can complain about being homesick? You are allowed to moan about Australia on here if you so wish, it's not all rose tinted stuff.

But this said hope you work out whatever is best for you & yours :)

@boy Sep 22nd 2007 5:37 pm

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Originally Posted by soulrebel (Post 5342131)
Whats centre link?

http://www.centrelink.gov.au/

Centrelink is an Australian Government Statutory Agency, assisting people to become self-sufficient and supporting those in need.

@boy Sep 22nd 2007 5:41 pm

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by soulrebel (Post 5342123)
Aah! you were there before then. Don't you have to be there 2 years for them to consider giving you social welfare payments. Or am I wrong?

Correct, under your 136 PR visa, you need to be self sufficient for 2 years before you will be entitled to social welfare payments if you cant find work.

This is why the Skilled Emigrant PR visa process is so stringent. If you get allocated one, there should be no excuse for you not to find work once you get here ;-)

You do get Medicare though.

Dan the Plumber Sep 22nd 2007 6:48 pm

Re: bit down in down under
 
Dont give up!!!! We spent about 8 years in Perth then returned to UK for 2. Then went back again and gave up after 5 months!!!!! 3 years on we are heading back!! Don't make the same mistakes we did. I am a plumber and although I got my licence last time round never actually got work. I was labouring for the same ($20) hr on building sites and thoroughly depressed. Looking back I didn't make any effort to find work - I think you really have to get out there and show your face. Definately be prepared to work for less than UK - trades are renowned for rubbish pay, but I'm sure you could get a job as a mate or something on sites. Might be earning the same pay but at least you'll be heading in the right direction for later on. Don't know about carpenters licences but mine was straight forward one day assessment - surely it can't be that different for your trade? Remember the reasons why you went in the first place - even after 8 years you have days of being homesick! Take it easy and keep your chin up!
Dan

SonicBird Sep 22nd 2007 8:35 pm

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Originally Posted by @boy (Post 5343506)
Correct, under your 136 PR visa, you need to be self sufficient for 2 years before you will be entitled to social welfare payments if you cant find work.

This is why the Skilled Emigrant PR visa process is so stringent. If you get allocated one, there should be no excuse for you not to find work once you get here ;-)

You do get Medicare though.

Just because you have a Skilled Visa it doesn't mean you'll get skilled wages... just something to bear in mind!

Sonic

@boy Sep 22nd 2007 8:47 pm

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by SonicBird (Post 5343763)
Just because you have a Skilled Visa it doesn't mean you'll get skilled wages... just something to bear in mind!

Sonic

Very true. Aus is no different from any other country in that respect. You are just a product and need to market yourself accordingly, whatever your trade/profession happens to be.

Sometimes it can be quite a shock for people coming over realising that they have to take pretty drastic pay cuts to what they have been used to and that it can take quite some time (and maybe a couple of jobs) before they get back to the equivalent level of pay they were used to getting before they came here.

I know this certainly was the case for me. It took me a few years to get back to the earning power I had when I left Ireland.

A good experience though. What doesn't kill you only makes ya stronger as they say ;-)

Ozzidoc Sep 22nd 2007 8:50 pm

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by Bobcat (Post 5341839)
Panorama Place runs off Greenhaven Glades and our joint backs onto Panorama Place. You wouldn't even be 5 minutes away from us so you'll have to pop round to say G'uday.

You are brave putting your address on here :)

---Haggisman--- Sep 22nd 2007 9:00 pm

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by peterpamandryan (Post 5333798)
hi folks,i havnt posted since feb this year just before we flew out,and im afraid i hate to do this but weve hit the 6 month wall,lads results in school getting worse rather than better after a great start and weve all had the big arguement "i hate it here its crap i wanna go home"im gutted ive actually snook a look at flights tonight,were all working soo hard to settle i think weve took our eye off what really matters,i was promised good dollars for being a carpenter/joiner but you need a liscence and you cant get it that easy so im stuck in a workshop getting $20 an hour!!!!!!!!!!! until i can sort a better job,i really dont want to moan and ive made a point of not doing so to anyone here but im a long way from home and needed an outlet,is it gonna get easier ????

Hey Peter

Been here 3 months myself and am also a chippie. Stop fretting man! You can be earning more than $20 an hour without a licence as long as you have an ABN. I went for a couple of jobs that were paying $32 per hour plus GST. Now for the licence, in Queensland if you use your TRA documents all you have to do is a management course through TAFE which can be done distance learning or by attending the course. Takes about 6 weeks to get the licence once you have got it you can then basically advertise for your own work.

I was a bit shocked at the wages too but if you look about and maybe diversify as I have, there is really good money out there. If you need any other advice just ask but stick it out. Life is good here man!!!!

Haggis

ozoz Sep 22nd 2007 9:16 pm

Re: bit down in down under
 
Hi all i understand what most of these disgruntled people on here feel like etc im at the same point deciding whether to head back to the uk or stay. I like australia, And i believe you get back what you put into life. But the main reason i would like to head back is for my friends and family, and the reason i stay is for my girlfriend and some parts of the australian outdoor lifestyle.
Regarding the job problems, liciences etc - In a perfect world there would be no need for liciences and if you had the skills for the job and you shown this to the employer then a licince should not matter. But the matter of fact is this is'nt a perfect world or australia and a lot of people are just after making a quick buck i.e the route to getting a licience.
To sum up this i wish i had an idea of which path i should take the uk one or the australian one decisions, decisions :confused:

soulrebel Sep 22nd 2007 11:33 pm

Re: bit down in down under
 

Originally Posted by @boy (Post 5343787)
I know this certainly was the case for me. It took me a few years to get back to the earning power I had when I left Ireland.

A good experience though. What doesn't kill you only makes ya stronger as they say ;-)


Where are ya from in Ireland?


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