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Tooterelli Apr 7th 2009 12:14 am

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 7458285)
Well actually pedestrians have right of way in this situation here that's why, if a car doesn't stop they're breaking the law.


Not a lot of good if you are dead.

Lordhorrace Apr 7th 2009 10:55 am

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by Tooterelli (Post 7458942)
Not a lot of good if you are dead.

I don't need a Nanny State to tell me how and when to cross the road though - especially when it is clear that there was no traffic (when I crossed) !!! So I think the police need to do some proper police work and stop hiding and snooping on pedestrians.

I have less repect for the Police Force in QLD now following this.

I have two examples of why my respect for them has dwindled:

When they have Booze Buses outside the city and block off motorway accesses to breathalise drivers. They tested me and it was zero - because I don't drink when I do Drive - but the copper was most disgruntled at this - Huffed and shouted drive on, you're wasting my time. :eek:

Then a couple of weeks ago there were some hoons in the local park vandalising some lamps and causing a nuisance - we called the police - but they said they were too busy! (Probably snooping on pedestrians - where they can make revenue!) :mad:

Notts_bloke Apr 7th 2009 11:01 am

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by Lordhorrace (Post 7460883)
I don't need a Nanny State to tell me how and when to cross the road though - especially when it is clear that there was no traffic (when I crossed) !!! So I think the police need to do some proper police work and stop hiding and snooping on pedestrians.

I think it shows how 'Americanised' Australia is and how Australian society is much more focused around the car than in Europe.

MartinLuther Apr 7th 2009 11:06 am

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 7458137)
Well it takes a bit of getting used to.......if you're crossing the road when a car turns into the same road, people tend to give way to you and gesture to you to cross - it happens all the time, even when cars should have right of way. After years of getting blasted by car horns, or nearly mown down as a cyclist....it's all quite civilised!

But to be safe, don't rely on that, the driver could be a pommie or a banana bender :D

bcworld Apr 7th 2009 11:11 am

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by MartinLuther (Post 7460903)
But to be safe, don't rely on that, the driver could be a pommie or a banana bender :D

It happened again this morning, twice!

I was nowhere even near crossing and this lady stopped on Chapel St and gestured to me to cross....then again when I got to my office.

Feeling the love! :wub:

OH who is Melbourne born & bred is surprised that I'm surprised....reckons it's standard Melbourne driver rules.

Possums Apr 7th 2009 11:17 am

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by Siren & Brian (Post 7458694)
This is how the government gets its stimulus money back.

:rofl:

Lordhorrace Apr 8th 2009 5:43 pm

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 7460912)
It happened again this morning, twice!

I was nowhere even near crossing and this lady stopped on Chapel St and gestured to me to cross....then again when I got to my office.

Feeling the love! :wub:

OH who is Melbourne born & bred is surprised that I'm surprised....reckons it's standard Melbourne driver rules.

I Must Say BC that I am very surprised, how friendly you are finding the drivers in Melbourne, especially with all those trams whizzing around. That's why they got rid of them here - so the cars could go faster!! - By the way did you see on the news that they are reducing the Speed in Brisbane CBD to 40Kmh from Tuesday next week?? Does that mean I can cross the road at a slower pace too?

bcworld Apr 8th 2009 5:55 pm

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by Lordhorrace (Post 7465114)
I Must Say BC that I am very surprised, how friendly you are finding the drivers in Melbourne, especially with all those trams whizzing around. That's why they got rid of them here - so the cars could go faster!! - By the way did you see on the news that they are reducing the Speed in Brisbane CBD to 40Kmh from Tuesday next week?? Does that mean I can cross the road at a slower pace too?

I'm sure Mayor Cando Newman would dig up the pavements as well if he thought he could get an extra couple of lanes of car traffic in! I'm sure he is probably very chuffed that the cops are booking those pesky pedestrians as well.......you'll probably be banned altogether soon!

Zambia Apr 8th 2009 6:09 pm

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 
Hang on I for one applaud the QLD coppers for actually doing this for the one principle that it is illegal and if something is illegal its the police's job to enforce law.

Granted their are loads of other things they could be chasing but if the police are not enforcing a law then its piontless having politicans who we elect to pass laws, pass these laws that the police subsequently dont enforce. Its a bit like passing a law allowing men to breastfeed in public when its never going to happen(no need for odd examples of medical science here)

However I would not be in favour of the police spending a huge amount of time doing so.

asprilla Apr 8th 2009 6:21 pm

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by Zambia (Post 7465150)
Hang on I for one applaud the QLD coppers for actually doing this for the one principle that it is illegal and if something is illegal its the police's job to enforce law.

Granted their are loads of other things they could be chasing but if the police are not enforcing a law then its piontless having politicans who we elect to pass laws, pass these laws that the police subsequently dont enforce. Its a bit like passing a law allowing men to breastfeed in public when its never going to happen(no need for odd examples of medical science here)

However I would not be in favour of the police spending a huge amount of time doing so.

I'm sure a jaywalking ticket would quickly make you change your tune.

Zambia Apr 8th 2009 7:10 pm

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by asprilla (Post 7465167)
I'm sure a jaywalking ticket would quickly make you change your tune.

I am sure it would annoy me but never the less its the way it works.

A law is a law if its not enforced its about a much use a tits on a fish and should be struck off. If anyone has an issue with a law they should lobby their MP to get it changed, not be overly concerned that a cop enforces the paticular law. I am sure the cops are delighted to be catching such a trivial offence but at the end of the day its a law.

For years in the UK and ireland people called for zero tolerance without ever knowing what it meant, this is it.

Tooterelli Apr 8th 2009 8:11 pm

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by Zambia (Post 7465150)
Hang on I for one applaud the QLD coppers for actually doing this for the one principle that it is illegal and if something is illegal its the police's job to enforce law.

Granted their are loads of other things they could be chasing but if the police are not enforcing a law then its piontless having politicans who we elect to pass laws, pass these laws that the police subsequently dont enforce. Its a bit like passing a law allowing men to breastfeed in public when its never going to happen(no need for odd examples of medical science here)

However I would not be in favour of the police spending a huge amount of time doing so.



Get a life !

Zambia Apr 8th 2009 8:13 pm

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by Tooterelli (Post 7465358)
Get a life !

Just get

PoppetUK Apr 8th 2009 11:38 pm

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 
I was gob smacked once when I was waiting at some lights in Perth several months ago. Not a bloody car in sight yet this policeman appeared from no where to have a go at someone for crossing the road on instead of waiting for that bloody noise. It was madness.

I understand there were similar rules in USA when I was living there as a student many moons ago.

It really did make me think have you not go anything better to do.Answer: probably not.

Same reason I've been pulled over several times and not been doing anything wrong. After twice in two weeks I did start to feel a little harassed when I was accused of being on my phone and in this particular incident I wasn't and had my call list to prove it.

Tired pregnant whinge opportunity couldn't resist.

coolerkingcooler Apr 9th 2009 3:09 am

Re: Beware when crossing roads in Cities!
 

Originally Posted by Zambia (Post 7465253)
I am sure it would annoy me but never the less its the way it works.

A law is a law if its not enforced its about a much use a tits on a fish and should be struck off. If anyone has an issue with a law they should lobby their MP to get it changed, not be overly concerned that a cop enforces the paticular law. I am sure the cops are delighted to be catching such a trivial offence but at the end of the day its a law.

For years in the UK and ireland people called for zero tolerance without ever knowing what it meant, this is it.

Not on crossing a road though.

I think people can appreciate your point but really, there are greater priorities.

Cooler


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