Originally Posted by Sunlover

My personal views for which I will no doubt get crucified, but I believe that specifics are more valuable than generalities.


Better

Weather
Commuting
Cheaper Housing
Cheaper cost of living
More Lifestyle choices - beaches, bush, cities etc.
Less crowded


Worse

Miss Family and friends

People

Attitudes to women are from the dark ages

Work - we both work like slaves over here and are constantly expected to do more and more because everywhere is understaffed - there are just not enough qualified people to employ.

Travel is so much more expensive and everywhere is "Far Far Away"

We really miss all the history, culture and architecture of the UK and Europe and the ability to travel everywhere so easily.


Hope this helps

:lecture:

Originally Posted by Sunlover

Travel is so much more expensive and everywhere is "Far Far Away"
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Originally Posted by Sunlover

My personal views for which I will no doubt get crucified, but I believe that specifics are more valuable than generalities.




Travel is so much more expensive and everywhere is "Far Far Away"


really surprised you said this when we were in perth we went to Bali for 2 weeks one week by the coast one in the mountains the apartments were brilliant (in ozzie terms standard rooms in uk terms deluxe!) all for cost of £400 per person. We also got the bus upto Broome from Perth stopping at Kilbarri and Exmouth on the way and found our own accomadation which was very cheap. I've just looked at booking a weeks holiday in a hotel in St Ives Cornwall £470 per peron B&B!!! :confused:

Originally Posted by wombat42

Many would put "attidudes to women from the dark ages" in the better list.

Originally Posted by kong

What a load of cobblers. In Perth 400 quid/1000 dollars is a lot for someone earning the rubber dollar in low wages Perth. You cannot compare costs Aus/UK without taking wages into account. In the UK I would think nothing of paying 400 quid on a weeks holiday, in Australia that would seem extravagent.

Originally Posted by Stewie

No arguement there.

UK wages are higher than Aus for the equivalent job. No doubt about that.
We fall into the trap of converting $ to £ and saying "That's cheap"

Wouldn't be if you had the same job in Aus paid in $AUD

Originally Posted by Sunlover

...but I believe that specifics are more valuable than generalities.

Originally Posted by Ulujain

They're higher because the cost of living is higher. I earn far more doing what I do now in the US than I would back home in Australia simply for that reason. There's a huge difference between wages paid in California and Texas too, once again, for cost of living reasons.

Every official financial index out there puts Australia's GDP/PPP per capita and standard of living index above the UK. Why is that? Not so much directed at you Stewie, but all interested bystanders.

Originally Posted by kong

What a load of cobblers. In Perth 400 quid/1000 dollars is a lot for someone earning the rubber dollar in low wages Perth. You cannot compare costs Aus/UK without taking wages into account. In the UK I would think nothing of paying 400 quid on a weeks holiday, in Australia that would seem extravagent.

Originally Posted by Grayling

You may be right as a generalisation Peter

However we are all different with different circumstances.
It will be different for those with/without children. House owners/renters etc.

Quality of life means different things to different people.It is different from 'Standard of living'. My Standard of living is good here and so is our quality of life in that we are fairly well off and live in a lovely place. However our sons live away (one in Australia) so isn't that also a 'quality of life' factor?

We will be well off in Australia but I will miss the peak district,pubs and beer, and the friends I have .No doubt there will be compensations.
We seem to be in a win/win situation as well as lose/lose situation depending on our perspective on any one day.

This is from my perspective but obviously others will find their situation different.

In terms of 'standard of living' I think we are probably comparing like with like.
Just my view.

I hope this makes sense. :confused:

Best wishes

G

Originally Posted by possoms

Hi
Totally agree with what your saying we live in the Peak District and also have a good standard of life we work hard so that when we get to Tasmania we will be able to afford a better standard of life financially. We too will miss the Peak District though scenically Tasmania is very similar to Derbyshire.
Kay

Originally Posted by kong

What a load of cobblers. In Perth 400 quid/1000 dollars is a lot for someone earning the rubber dollar in low wages Perth. You cannot compare costs Aus/UK without taking wages into account. In the UK I would think nothing of paying 400 quid on a weeks holiday, in Australia that would seem extravagent.

Originally Posted by possoms

really $1000 for 2 people for 2 weeks holiday in Bali from perth is expensive??? funny how all the people living there at the time said it was really cheap seems you ought to get a better paid job you ignorant little git or better still a life :mad:

Originally Posted by owieb

Kong wasn't saying that a $1000 was a lot for a 2 week holiday, he was saying that $1000 is a lot of money to people who are living and earning here.

I live here and I earn here, and between myself and my wife we have an above average income. $1000 is a lot of money to us whether we choose to spend it on a holiday to Bali or something else, it's still $1000!

Originally Posted by Siren

You are a right dick arent you.

Siren's b/h

Originally Posted by possoms

really $1000 for 2 people for 2 weeks holiday in Bali from perth is expensive??? funny how all the people living there at the time said it was really cheap seems you ought to get a better paid job you ignorant little git or better still a life :mad:

Originally Posted by kong

What a load of cobblers. In Perth 400 quid/1000 dollars is a lot for someone earning the rubber dollar in low wages Perth. You cannot compare costs Aus/UK without taking wages into account. In the UK I would think nothing of paying 400 quid on a weeks holiday, in Australia that would seem extravagent.

Originally Posted by Mairi&Chris

Its a weeks wages.

In my book paying one weeks wages for 2 weeks holiday is good value for money.

Originally Posted by kong

Ok you cannot reason so you chuck insults, very Australian.

I was stating that to me in UK 400 quid is not much, whereas if I were in Perth on local wages 1000 bucks would be a lot of dough, irrespective of where the hoilday was.

You can me ignorant??? You are the one calling me names and assuming that I earn little. May I suggest that you think out your posts before publicly humiliating yourself by not fully understanding the argument that is laid out before you.

Originally Posted by kong

Are you saying that the average wage in Perth is 1000 dollars??

What planet are you on??

Originally Posted by kong

Ok you cannot reason so you chuck insults, very Australian.

I was stating that to me in UK 400 quid is not much, whereas if I were in Perth on local wages 1000 bucks would be a lot of dough, irrespective of where the hoilday was.

You can me ignorant??? You are the one calling me names and assuming that I earn little. May I suggest that you think out your posts before publicly humiliating yourself by not fully understanding the argument that is laid out before you.

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond

According to statistics, (I did a cut and past on it earlier), the average wage in Australia is just under $1,000 per week, some more, some less, but it averages at about $1,000.

Originally Posted by Grayling

That may well be the case but, in our case, we would be getting a lot more than that from our pensions and investments alone.
I do not see that as a big wage.

Not compared to what we are earning in the UK.

G

Originally Posted by Grayling

That may well be the case but, in our case, we would be getting a lot more than that from our pensions and investments alone.
I do not see that as a big wage.

Not compared to what we are earning in the UK.

G

Originally Posted by stephenwhite68

Thats exactly what i am hoping for ...
A Job that pays enough to pay the bills have a life and basically get us buy
if i wanted "Loads Of Money" i would be staying here in the UK and working All the hours !!

even considering changing direction when i get there ...

Originally Posted by possoms

$1000 for 2 people for 2 weeks holiday in Bali QUOTE]


Pure Crap :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Mairi&Chris

G, you're right in one respect. Compared to what earnings are in available in the UK/Europe the OZ salaries are not good.

I'm looking at taking at least a 60% cut in salary to be here in perth compared to what I was earning in germany, and thats if I get my top paying job.

But as I said earlier. A$1050pw is my minimum paying job applied for which = 2 weeks holiday which = good value for money in my book.

Just it depends on your priorities. If money was my priority I would have stayed in Europe. Or I could go to Sydney and earn 15-20% more but pay 40-50% more for my house.

I've picked whats important to me and its not salary :D

Originally Posted by Grayling

I totally accept what you are saying and you have obviously made a considered choice.
The problem with talking about Average wages is exactly that it is an average.
My son and my cousin both earn more than twice the 'supposed' $1000 wage.
That must mean then that many people are earning a lot less to make it an average.
We all know other posters on here that earn big salaries which again means others must earn a lot less. Not everyone can earn the 'average' if many are above it.
As I mentioned on another thread the contractors I met in Karuah thought that $500 pw would be a reasonable wage and that's what many of their friends earned in inland NSW.
I am also assuming that these figures are pre tax.
Therefore I think it is pointless to try and budget for an 'average' wage as you may earn much less than that.
Until you actually see your first pay packet you do not know what you will be earning and it may come as a shock to some people.
As has been discussed on here before. Where do pensions fit into this equation.
The ability to retire on a reasonable income is also a 'quality of life issue.

Sorry, rambling a bit. I hope I made my point
Best wishes

G

Originally Posted by Mairi&Chris

Who was it that said you spend according to your income? Whoever it was, they are a v.wise person.

Originally Posted by alkristensen

It doesnt matter where you are in the world there are always people that like myself who prefer a bargain, and then there are idiots who pay through the nose for holidays well in advance who have no sense of adventure, or as in most cases if you have kids and can only get the peak time fares during holidays then you are screwed to thew floor with high prices.

as the last post said"it was a last minute hol!!! so there are so many discounts to be had if you are flexible on days/times etc.

£400 a week is far better than the average joes pay in the uk for the working class, but more importantly there are so many places to go in australia and most of you are already there which wont cost the earth to get to, so just count yourselves lucky as the majority of people who use this site are wanting to be there and would give thier right arm to do so.

Holidays in wales and blackpool are crap in comparison to sydney,cairns,tazmania,Nz,etc and i would love your problems of only £400 a week and all those places on my doorstep.

alk

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond

It was actually Possoms who said that they did Bali themselves for $1,000, in his post earlier, not Kong. (Post no 82) I must admit though that I haven't seen it for less than $700 per person for a long time.