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calliope Nov 22nd 2011 6:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Dicko (Post 9749177)
Not sure whether this is a rehash of the article in the Aussie newspaper a few weeks ago, but valid points for & against, I guess the pull of family and familiarity will never go away, and with the exchange rate as it is, the attraction is not so big anymore.

Why are so many Britons quitting Australia?


And I had to laugh at the final point from Jono Coleman:

"If you're broke, where would you rather be? Sitting in a park in the rain in London, or in a park in Sydney looking at the ocean?"

An interesting article but its main point is probably not accurate because while they say that between 2005 and 2009 the number of British people leaving Australia increased, they do not not point out that during the same time more British people went to live in Australia in the first place, as all migration into Australia went up across these years. It could be that the percentage returning remained constant if this is the case with the figures.

Amazulu Nov 22nd 2011 6:16 pm

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Originally Posted by calliope (Post 9749441)
An interesting article but its main point is probably not accurate because while they say that between 2005 and 2009 the number of British people leaving Australia increased, they do not not point out that during the same time more British people went to live in Australia in the first place, as all migration into Australia went up across these years. It could be that the percentage returning remained constant if this is the case with the figures.

And do their figures allow for ping pong poms? If BE is anything to go by, there are plenty.

chris955 Nov 22nd 2011 7:06 pm

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But in fairness the article was only covering the number of Brits returning to the UK, I'm not sure by what % the number coming TO Australia increased but it wouldn't have been massive.


Originally Posted by calliope (Post 9749441)
An interesting article but its main point is probably not accurate because while they say that between 2005 and 2009 the number of British people leaving Australia increased, they do not not point out that during the same time more British people went to live in Australia in the first place, as all migration into Australia went up across these years. It could be that the percentage returning remained constant if this is the case with the figures.


Beoz Nov 22nd 2011 8:00 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9749394)
I cant believe how big he is now, I just cannot imagine letting myself get so fat especially with a young family.

Wow. Jono really hit a nerve:rofl:

sheene Nov 22nd 2011 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9749329)
believe what you want to believe

Go on then - name another Broadcasting company with the same quality of output, including drama, current affairs, documentary, comedy etc.

chris955 Nov 22nd 2011 8:33 pm

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:confused:


Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 9749566)
Wow. Jono really hit a nerve:rofl:


chris955 Nov 22nd 2011 8:34 pm

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That's easy, there isn't one.


Originally Posted by sheene (Post 9749614)
Go on then - name another Broadcasting company with the same quality of output, including drama, current affairs, documentary, comedy etc.


sheene Nov 22nd 2011 8:36 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9749630)
That's easy, there isn't one.

Well someone seems to think there is - can't wait for the reply.

Turban Explorer Nov 22nd 2011 8:55 pm

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Originally Posted by sheene (Post 9749636)
Well someone seems to think there is - can't wait for the reply.

Goebbel's Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda ?

sheene Nov 22nd 2011 8:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Turban Explorer (Post 9749666)
Goebbel's Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda ?

Damn, forgot about them - their children's programs were just fabulous - who can forget 'The lion, the witch, and the Jew in the wardrobe'.

calliope Nov 22nd 2011 9:48 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9749509)
But in fairness the article was only covering the number of Brits returning to the UK, I'm not sure by what % the number coming TO Australia increased but it wouldn't have been massive.

British people make up one of the biggest groups coming into Australia so it's just a guess but I would think that the general increase in immigrants between those years is probably in line with an increase in British immigrants. Even if not, the point above about ping pong poms wasn't considered in the article and they make up a lot of numbers. I'm not sure there's an accurate way to measure it.

chris955 Nov 22nd 2011 9:50 pm

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Ditto ;)



Originally Posted by sheene (Post 9749636)
Well someone seems to think there is - can't wait for the reply.


chris955 Nov 22nd 2011 9:52 pm

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Who can tell with ping pongers as many would also leave again and return to the UK.



Originally Posted by calliope (Post 9749767)
British people make up one of the biggest groups coming into Australia so it's just a guess but I would think that the general increase in immigrants between those years is probably in line with an increase in British immigrants. Even if not, the point above about ping pong poms wasn't considered in the article and they make up a lot of numbers. I'm not sure there's an accurate way to measure it.


calliope Nov 22nd 2011 9:55 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9749775)
Who can tell with ping pongers as many would also leave again and return to the UK.

So I'm not sure it's the exodus the article implies. I can't see why it would be any higher today than in the past, except maybe how expensive houses can be now. In the past British people got a great deal with property and saw a real rise in their standard of living but now you could even argue that is reversed in terms of housing. I'm not sure how much British houses cost any more.

chris955 Nov 22nd 2011 10:12 pm

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Well looking at the figures more and more are returning, there seems no doubt about that. We have to remember that people return home for a great many different reasons. I would imagine that the higher cost of living is having an affect also as you say house prices. We are able to buy a very nice place in the UK now with the equity we have in our Australian house. Maybe people's priorities are changing ?


Originally Posted by calliope (Post 9749781)
So I'm not sure it's the exodus the article implies. I can't see why it would be any higher today than in the past, except maybe how expensive houses can be now. In the past British people got a great deal with property and saw a real rise in their standard of living but now you could even argue that is reversed in terms of housing. I'm not sure how much British houses cost any more.



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