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Not sure whether this is a rehash of the article in the Aussie newspaper a few weeks ago, but valid points for & against, I guess the pull of family and familiarity will never go away, and with the exchange rate as it is, the attraction is not so big anymore.

Why are so many Britons quitting Australia?


And I had to laugh at the final point from Jono Coleman:

"If you're broke, where would you rather be? Sitting in a park in the rain in London, or in a park in Sydney looking at the ocean?"

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Well, tell Jono the annual rainfall for Sydney is considerably higher than London. In fact looking out office window now, cannot see f888 all due to the wet

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Unfortunately Jono Coleman is one of those 'Aussies' that was more than happy to accept all the benefits of living and working in the UK and then criticises everything now he is here.

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Nevermind. Carrying that much flab he'll probably snuff it soon.

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Unusually for the BBC it's a pretty balanced article

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Somewhat like you and Australia

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Are you a rabid right-winger who thinks the Beeb is full of lefties, or a socialist who thinks it is full of Tories?

Rock on the BBC, the best, most respected, most loved, (and most balanced) broadcasting organisation in the world!

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Out of context.....

He actually said this before that last flawed statement.

Now in his fourth stint living in one of the two countries, Coleman says "it's hard to place one of them above the other. But for him, Australia just shades it".


I wouldn't say that was criticising "everything"

Reason I'm posting on this thread My Aussie born and bred daughter came back here, as per the article re Aussies returning because of the job market in the UK.... She has found it easier to progress here than she did in the current and previous 5 years working climate in Central London.

What I find very interesting about this whole topic is that it really does seem that generally speaking and given a similar ability if your an Aussie born you really will do better in the job market here.. and vice versa with Brits in the UK... which seems to suggest a small amount of underlying predjudice on both sides.

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believe what you want to believe

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Do you mean a British born person, who has lived in Australia as well as UK, I am surprised you didn't read that bit?

My final quote from him was meant more in jest, the article itself was the talking point.

Of which I thought was balanced and had arguments for and against.

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My opinion is it is a mental thing, I was talking the other day about Christmas, whereas we will never get used to it being ridiculously hot, in turn Aussies born & bred could not imagine Christmas in cold weather.

Guess it is just what people are used to and no matter how hard they try, they will accept it, but it will never be the norm.

I remember the programme on the Ten Pound Poms, the lady who had lived here something like fifty years and she went home to Wales to die.

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You're wasting your breath with this guy

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Absolutely, the BBC is easily the most respected news service in the world for very good reason.

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I cant believe how big he is now, I just cannot imagine letting myself get so fat especially with a young family.

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He's got a good physique for Qld. :p I believe there is such a thing as the male 'gunt'?

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An interesting article but its main point is probably not accurate because while they say that between 2005 and 2009 the number of British people leaving Australia increased, they do not not point out that during the same time more British people went to live in Australia in the first place, as all migration into Australia went up across these years. It could be that the percentage returning remained constant if this is the case with the figures.

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And do their figures allow for ping pong poms? If BE is anything to go by, there are plenty.

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But in fairness the article was only covering the number of Brits returning to the UK, I'm not sure by what % the number coming TO Australia increased but it wouldn't have been massive.

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Wow. Jono really hit a nerve:rofl:

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Go on then - name another Broadcasting company with the same quality of output, including drama, current affairs, documentary, comedy etc.

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:confused:

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That's easy, there isn't one.

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Well someone seems to think there is - can't wait for the reply.

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Goebbel's Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda ?

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Damn, forgot about them - their children's programs were just fabulous - who can forget 'The lion, the witch, and the Jew in the wardrobe'.

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British people make up one of the biggest groups coming into Australia so it's just a guess but I would think that the general increase in immigrants between those years is probably in line with an increase in British immigrants. Even if not, the point above about ping pong poms wasn't considered in the article and they make up a lot of numbers. I'm not sure there's an accurate way to measure it.

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Ditto ;)

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Who can tell with ping pongers as many would also leave again and return to the UK.

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So I'm not sure it's the exodus the article implies. I can't see why it would be any higher today than in the past, except maybe how expensive houses can be now. In the past British people got a great deal with property and saw a real rise in their standard of living but now you could even argue that is reversed in terms of housing. I'm not sure how much British houses cost any more.

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Well looking at the figures more and more are returning, there seems no doubt about that. We have to remember that people return home for a great many different reasons. I would imagine that the higher cost of living is having an affect also as you say house prices. We are able to buy a very nice place in the UK now with the equity we have in our Australian house. Maybe people's priorities are changing ?

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I'm saying that I doubt more people are returning as a percentage, but that if they are it could be down to cost of living in Australia because other reasons like family are always there, but only recently has the cost of living in Australia got so high. People have always wanted to get on top of their mortgage and pay it off and now that looks like an easier task in the UK than in Australia with the really high cost of Australian housing and higher rates. When you look at the numbers housing buying here with these conditions is not the great deal it once was.

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"Company". You make it sound as if they get their money as all other media companies do. If it wasn't for the unfair TV tax and if they had to act as a proper company, they'd sink without a trace.

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And then British telly would be as unwatchable as Australia's.

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How many broke people sit in a park in Sydney looking at the ocean? I guess those with a brown bag in hand!
I'm out of work right now and would rather be in the UK - So much more to do with museums, world class media, evening classes that don't break the bank, walks in the country & by the sea etc etc....and of course, supportive friends and family!
Australia is a great country to be in if you moved here a few years ago, managed to afford a house and have a secure job. But more sunny days don't compensate for the reduced quality of life you'll have when you're on a low income here

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I believe that everywhere has a reduced standard of living these days, because of inflation, but that this is worse in countries that have very expensive real estate like Australia, so quality of life will be reduced because so much money gets spent on servicing vast mortgages at relatively high rates. Those that got on the property ladder a few decades ago should have an easier time because when they had to borrow to buy their first few homes real estate did not cost so much.:frown:

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would that be called a gock?
doesnt have the same ring to it

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What are you blathering on about? I said that the BBC news can be biased - nothing else. What has this got to do with all the other stuff that they do? Every news agency on the planet is biased to some degree, some more than others. If they were not, we would be living in a world similar to that Ricky Gervais movie.

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Nice try, but no Cigar.

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What language are you talking? Bollocks?

Your post was irrelevant to what I wrote.

Click ignore.

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How come I can't get on your ignore list AZ?