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Pollyana Oct 29th 2008 9:58 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by slipshot (Post 6924349)
Well done chaps...

We got there in the end. Safin, thanks for kick starting it again.

My original post was clear in that I wanted to highlight the differences between the two countries and what I should have said was facts rather than opinion.

For example, it is a fact that Australia has better weather than the UK. It is also a fact that the higher rate of tax is 47% compared to 40%.

I make no judgement on whether it is better or not. Previous posts have indicated I'm a firm believer that the grass is not greener, just a different shade or colour.

I hate the idea that Australia is the 'greatest country in the world' (Borat has that sewn up). No country is the greatest but some people may feel that, because it depends on where they have come from, and what they do and everywhere has it's issues.

The thread was aimed at those people who are contemplating a move, and even though they could have been on holiday for months, living in a country is totally different to holidaying in a country. Thus I wanted to highlight the differences to assist people with background knowledge and experience.

If we could keep it to facts rather than opinions it would help. But I smile at some comments as well...

Cheers all...

I hate to play devils advocate, but to state that the weather here is "better" is actually a matter of opinion - if you prefer cold weather, then the weather in parts of Australia is definitely not better....for instance :p
Sorry, but its shows just how dificult it is to give just "facts" with nom "opinions" ;)

ABCDiamond Oct 29th 2008 10:04 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by slipshot (Post 6924370)
Yet history and research has shown that driving in Australia is almost twice as likely to result in injury or an accident than the UK.

Only if you drive in the Northern Territory apparently ...

2005 Road Death Comparative Figures (latest I had located when I last looked)

From the above report: Road deaths per 100 million vehicle kilometres travelled:

0.6 Great Britain
0.7 Queensland, Australia
0.7 Victoria, Australia
0.8 New South Wales, Australia
0.8 Australian Capital Territory, Australia
0.8 Western Australia
1.0 France
1.0 South Australia
1.0 Tasmania, Australia
3.4 Northern Territory, Australia

Most states are pretty similar to the UK, (not much higher) but the NT figures throw Australia 'as a whole' right out.

Wendy Oct 29th 2008 10:15 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
Mmm, the tax you quoted isn't quite right. We don't pay 47% (and it's 45%) but thats because we aren't high income earners. Also you didn't mention the fact that you have NI in the UK at a minumum of 11% on wages of over 105 GBP per week and only 1.5% medicare here (unless you are exempt, see the ato site for more details)

There's also more tax bands here than the UK.

UK tax bands for 2008/9

2007-08
£ per year
2008-09
£ per year
Starting rate: 10%
£0-£2,230


Basic rate:22%
£2,231-£34,600
Basic rate: 20%*
£0-£34,800
Higher rate: 40%
Over £34, 600
Higher rate: 40%*
Over £34,800


* From 2008-09, there is a 10 per cent starting rate for savings income only, with a limit of £2,320. If an individual’s taxable non-savings income is above this limit then the 10 per cent starting rate for savings will not apply.] There are no changes to the 10 per cent dividend ordinary rate or the 32.5 per cent dividend upper rate.

Aus Tax bands for 2008/9

Taxable income
Tax on this income
$0 – $6,000
Nil
$6,001 – $34,000
15c for each $1 over $6,000
$34,001 – $80,000
$4,200 plus 30c for each $1 over $34,000
$80,001 – $180,000
$18,000 plus 40c for each $1 over $80,000
$180,001 and over
$58,000 plus 45c for each $1 over $180,000

ABCDiamond Oct 29th 2008 10:17 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Burbage (Post 6923931)
Ok, ok.

It doesn't rain much on the Gold Coast and the dams are too small for the population, which is why they have water restrictions.

Gold Coast average rain: 1,228.9 mm per year.
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/climat...=site&lc=40764

London receives about 650 mm per year.
http://www.london.gov.uk/mayor/envir..._important.jsp


October 13th, 2008
WATER restrictions may again be held off with rain at the weekend expected to have kept the Hinze Dam level above the magic 95 per cent barrier.
http://www.goldcoast.com.au

Wendy Oct 29th 2008 10:20 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by bev1 (Post 6923924)
NO GRAVY GRANUALS??????? or Gravy thickener


http://www.greens.com.au/dir016/gree...hickenGranules ;)

ABCDiamond Oct 29th 2008 10:22 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 6924612)
Mmm, the tax you quoted isn't quite right.

The best way to compare Tax is to work out the tax paid on an average wage in each country.

The last time I did that, a few years ago, I think the factual figures showed less deductions in Australia.

And then, when tax return time came, and people claimed for overtime meals, sunscreen, sunglasses etc etc etc, Australians came out well ahead ;)

rabsody Oct 29th 2008 10:27 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 6924627)
The best way to compare Tax is to work out the tax paid on an average wage in each country.

The last time I did that, a few years ago, I think the factual figures showed less deductions in Australia.

And then, when tax return time came, and people claimed for overtime meals, sunscreen, sunglasses etc etc etc, Australians came out well ahead ;)

sunglasses? what's this?! i must go get me some designer shades then if they're tax deductible! :D and some christian dior suncream.

Wendy Oct 29th 2008 10:40 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by rabsody (Post 6924640)
sunglasses? what's this?! i must go get me some designer shades then if they're tax deductible! :D and some christian dior suncream.


If you work outside, you can claim for sunglasses etc ;)

rabsody Oct 29th 2008 10:41 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 6924673)
If you work outside, you can claim for sunglasses etc ;)

drat!

Wendy Oct 29th 2008 10:48 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 6924627)
The best way to compare Tax is to work out the tax paid on an average wage in each country.

The last time I did that, a few years ago, I think the factual figures showed less deductions in Australia.

And then, when tax return time came, and people claimed for overtime meals, sunscreen, sunglasses etc etc etc, Australians came out well ahead ;)


At the end of the day anyone can tell the 'facts' that prove what they want them to prove, but there's always something that is different for everyone which affects their 'facts' as opposed to the next persons 'facts' ;)

I have done two tax returns now, and both times I have had a few thousand $$ back :thumbsup:

I don't compare the UK to here, never have really. The UK is the YUK and Aus isn't. :lol:

Wendy Oct 29th 2008 10:50 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by rabsody (Post 6924676)
drat!


I can recommend working on a building site - it's great fun :thumbsup: plenty of eye candy too :D

(although I do technically work 'in' the site office :rofl:)

moneypenny20 Oct 29th 2008 10:58 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 6924689)
At the end of the day anyone can tell the 'facts' that prove what they want them to prove, but there's always something that is different for everyone which affects their 'facts' as opposed to the next persons 'facts' ;)

I said something similar many posts ago but apparently it's not what people want to hear :lol: They'd rather argue black was white (which of course it is, if you live in a negative world ;))

Wendy Oct 29th 2008 11:01 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6924703)
I said something similar many posts ago but apparently it's not what people want to hear :lol: They'd rather argue black was white (which of course it is, if you live in a negative world ;))


I saw that post....thought it was time for another! ;) See you again in 5 pages :rofl:

moneypenny20 Oct 29th 2008 11:02 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 6924712)
I saw that post....thought it was time for another! ;) See you again in 5 pages :rofl:

I've lost interest now, don't think I'll still be reading in five pages time :eek::rofl:

rabsody Oct 29th 2008 11:19 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 6924690)
I can recommend working on a building site - it's great fun :thumbsup: plenty of eye candy too :D

(although I do technically work 'in' the site office :rofl:)

ooh could do with a bit of eye candy .. they're all too young at uni! :D

Hutch Oct 29th 2008 11:21 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by rabsody (Post 6924758)
ooh could do with a bit of eye candy .. they're all too young at uni! :D

Young, but potent. :lol:

Pollyana Oct 29th 2008 11:31 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by rabsody (Post 6924758)
ooh could do with a bit of eye candy .. they're all too young at uni! :D

This do you? :D

http://www.fire.qld.gov.au/about/ff_calendar.asp

rabsody Oct 29th 2008 11:33 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6924796)

Rather nice. :thumbup: Not into them really big and muscly though. I like to be the vainest one in a relationship! :lol:

Pollyana Oct 29th 2008 11:35 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
And before I'm accused of being sexist........published this year for the first time.....
http://www.femalefirefighters.com.au/

Potato_potato Oct 30th 2008 3:01 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Burbage (Post 6924141)
Looking at the Third Test from India I'm not sure that Australia's cricketers are better than Britain's either.

On our worst day we'd still be better than the English on their best. The same applies to Union and Rugby League.

Notts_bloke Oct 30th 2008 3:04 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Potato_potato (Post 6927169)
On our worst day we'd still be better than the English on their best. The same applies to Union and Rugby League.

What like the last Rugby Union World cup? I seem to remember it was the POMS that knocked the Aussies out.

Potato_potato Oct 30th 2008 3:07 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Notts_bloke (Post 6927173)
What like the last Rugby Union World cup? I seem to remember it was the POMS that knocked the Aussies out.

Wow, I have my very first online stalker. I feel special.

Notts_bloke Oct 30th 2008 3:12 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Potato_potato (Post 6927177)
Wow, I have my very first online stalker. I feel special.

Don't flatter yourself.

I take it you didn't rebut my post.

koalatea Oct 30th 2008 3:16 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
I may be imagining it, but I think the accent is a little different in Australia

St.Georges Girl Oct 30th 2008 3:17 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Potato_potato (Post 6927169)
On our worst day we'd still be better than the English on their best. The same applies to Union and Rugby League.

:rofl: What utter drivel. Bored are we?:sneaky:

Kooky. Oct 30th 2008 3:22 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
Just proving (s)he can multitask by trying to wind us up on more than one thread, I think.

Seriously - and I thought the fact that my husband keeps me meant I was the one with too much time on my hands. :rofl:

Potato_potato Oct 30th 2008 3:26 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 6927202)
Just proving (s)he can multitask by trying to wind us up on more than one thread, I think.

Seriously - and I thought the fact that my husband keeps me meant I was the one with too much time on my hands. :rofl:

And my 2nd stalker pops in for a cheerio.

Kooky. Oct 30th 2008 3:27 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
Er, I'm already subscribed to the thread. :confused: Commented on it up somewhere near your post about you "reprimanding" the Asians.

Potato_potato Oct 30th 2008 3:28 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by koalatea (Post 6927190)
I may be imagining it, but I think the accent is a little different in Australia

Thanks heavens for that.

rabsody Oct 30th 2008 3:28 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Potato_potato (Post 6927212)
And my 2nd stalker pops in for a cheerio.

And here's your 3rd :p

No need for nastiness now Potty.

Potato_potato Oct 30th 2008 3:29 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 6927217)
Er, I'm already subscribed to the thread. :confused: Commented on it up somewhere near your post about you "reprimanding" the Asians.

I wouldn't know that, I'm not the one following you from thread to thread. What would your hubby think if he knew?

spartacus Oct 30th 2008 3:29 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
Go on my son!

Potato-potato give em hell. I love a scrap and always root for the underdog!

You've been here longer than most of these 'Johnny come latelys'!

Illegitimi non carborundum!

Potato_potato Oct 30th 2008 3:30 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by rabsody (Post 6927219)
And here's your 3rd :p

No need for nastiness now Potty.

You can follow me any time you like. :wub:

Kooky. Oct 30th 2008 3:33 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Potato_potato (Post 6927221)
I wouldn't know that, I'm not the one following you from thread to thread. What would your hubby think if he knew?

Wonder if my tennis coach has gone out of favour.

rabsody Oct 30th 2008 3:35 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 6927229)
Wonder if my tennis coach has gone out of favour.

haha :thumbup:

asprilla Oct 30th 2008 3:37 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
In the UK there is weetabix.

In Aus, there is weetbix. (note that the "a" is missing).


They taste different, and it is probably down to the missing letter "a".

St.Georges Girl Oct 30th 2008 4:13 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 6927222)
Go on my son!

Potato-potato give em hell. I love a scrap and always root for the underdog!

You've been here longer than most of these 'Johnny come latelys'!

Illegitimi non carborundum!

:blink:


Originally Posted by markallwood (Post 6927236)
In the UK there is weetabix.

In Aus, there is weetbix. (note that the "a" is missing).


They taste different, and it is probably down to the missing letter "a".

I'm going to be pedantic here and correct you. Here they have Weet-Bix, in england they have Weetabix. The imported Weetabix are now called Whole Wheat Biscuits.:)

koalatea Oct 30th 2008 4:20 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
You couldn't call a cheese Coon in the UK

carolinephillips Oct 30th 2008 4:23 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 

Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl (Post 6927281)
:blink:

I'm going to be pedantic here and correct you. Here they have Weet-Bix, in england they have Weetabix. The imported Weetabix are now called Whole Wheat Biscuits.:)

Can I join in and be pedantic too? On your caption it says "in a deep dark whole.." is that correct or do you mean hole as in hole in the ground....?:rofl:

Seriously though, are the imported Whole Wheat Biscuits really like weetabix in the UK? My daughter won't eat weetbix here. I am also looking for proper Readybrek - the quick cooking oats and Uncle Toby's are all too lumpy.

sonlymewalter Oct 30th 2008 4:23 pm

Re: Basic differences between Aus and the UK
 
Well whatever they're called. Both make me shit through the eye of a needle:blink:

Are weetabix or weetbix meant to be laxatives - cos they are for me:o

How the heck does any child manage to get to school of a morning is beyond me:unsure:


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