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Old Dec 31st 2008, 2:05 am
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Just to let you guys know as a warning, there was a tv show on last night here, about 2 couples with different stories but are both being asked to leave Australia.
the 1st one, was about a guy who went bankrupt in the uk and didn't declare it on his forms, he paid the outstanding money before he left, but didn't let Australian immigration know.
the 2nd one was a lady who worked in a hairdressers on a working visa, but got sacked after taking to many sick days, now she hasn't got a job under the terms of her visa and is being asked to leave.
I know you guys are all competent people and it sounds obvious but do not leave anything out on forms no matter how trivial it is, and check the terms of your visa before you drag the whole family out.
thanks and happy waiting hope you all get the news you want in the New Year.
Ian
p.s anyone heading to Brisbane early in the new year pack the sunscreen it's 35c here today ( new years eve)
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Old Dec 31st 2008, 3:51 am
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Just to let you guys know as a warning, there was a tv show on last night here, about 2 couples with different stories but are both being asked to leave Australia.
the 1st one, was about a guy who went bankrupt in the uk and didn't declare it on his forms, he paid the outstanding money before he left, but didn't let Australian immigration know.
the 2nd one was a lady who worked in a hairdressers on a working visa, but got sacked after taking to many sick days, now she hasn't got a job under the terms of her visa and is being asked to leave.
I know you guys are all competent people and it sounds obvious but do not leave anything out on forms no matter how trivial it is, and check the terms of your visa before you drag the whole family out.
thanks and happy waiting hope you all get the news you want in the New Year.
Ian
p.s anyone heading to Brisbane early in the new year pack the sunscreen it's 35c here today ( new years eve)
The families both came on 457 visas, which are temporary. The first story was about a woman who's employer (hair salon) who was not eligible to sponsor her, so therefore she was not entitled to a visa. They applied for a Business Subclass 163 based on the husband, which requires extensive business experience. He had/has the experience, but he failed to declare that his business had declared bankruptcy and that the company closed due to financial matters. Skilled visas do not require financial information from applicants, so this story (the bankruptcy part anyway) doesn't apply to most here.
The second story was about a woman on a 457 who took too many sick days and her employment was terminated. As rightly said by the DIAC spokesman, it is a matter for the Workplace Ombudsman, not DIAC.

Both families knew - or should have known - that coming to Australia on a 457 is a gamble and they could have to leave the country on 28 days notice at any time. It is not the fault of DIAC that a company is not eligible to sponsor nor is it that someone takes days off and gets fired.
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Originally Posted by the big IP
Just to let you guys know as a warning, there was a tv show on last night here, about 2 couples with different stories but are both being asked to leave Australia.
the 1st one, was about a guy who went bankrupt in the uk and didn't declare it on his forms, he paid the outstanding money before he left, but didn't let Australian immigration know.
the 2nd one was a lady who worked in a hairdressers on a working visa, but got sacked after taking to many sick days, now she hasn't got a job under the terms of her visa and is being asked to leave.
I know you guys are all competent people and it sounds obvious but do not leave anything out on forms no matter how trivial it is, and check the terms of your visa before you drag the whole family out.
thanks and happy waiting hope you all get the news you want in the New Year.
Ian
p.s anyone heading to Brisbane early in the new year pack the sunscreen it's 35c here today ( new years eve)
As Dorothy says this was a far wider issue, and the person applying for the 163 did not declare their bankruptcy. As a general rule you are not asked about whether or not you are bankrupt, and for most classes bankruptcy in itself will not stop you migrating.
Having said that, if one is asked, one would be daft to lie about anything when applying for a visal

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Note to self: Don't apply for a business visa to Australia after being declared bankrupt and disqualified from being a company director in another country.
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Note to self: Don't apply for a business visa to Australia after being declared bankrupt and disqualified from being a company director in another country.
I thought it was a prerequisite given some of the dealings I have seen
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Note to self: Don't apply for a business visa to Australia after being declared bankrupt and disqualified from being a company director in another country.
That's correct. In order to qualify for a 163 visa you have to have a proven track record of being able to run a financially viable company in your home country. If your company went bankrupt and you were disquaified from being a company director that would indicate that you are in fact unable to do the above.
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Originally Posted by lonndongeek
Note to self: Don't apply for a business visa to Australia after being declared bankrupt and disqualified from being a company director in another country.
That wasn't the issue, it was the fact he failed to declare it when filling in the forms. It may have been a genuine mistake but fact is as far as Aus immigration are concerned having lied on his form he is a person of 'dubious moral character'
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Yep, they do seem very keen on honesty.
I can't see that they would have given it to him anyway as he had not run a successful business.
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