Back Fro Perth
Apr 17th 2007 | 6:43 pm
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We have just come back from Perth after out second visit, we have obtained our permanent residency two years ago and will not be moving out for another two and a bit years - virtually just before the Visa expires, there are various reasons for this, but we are going out each year to try to decide whether we will settle in Perth or Brisbane - I think the more time you can spend beforehand is invaluable and my initial feelings of Australia have changed from when I first visited the Country.
The following observations are obviously personal ones but I thought it may be helpful for people who have never been to Perth before.
On this visit we stayed in East Perth, off Royal Street and we loved it. My children have grown up and I must say inner city life appeals to me more and more, East Perth is undergoing alot of building - townhouses and apartments ( probably not suitable for people with kids) there are cycle tracks everywhere, the Aussies are exercising and walking and running and basically out and about, Easter Monday we spent on Scarborough beach and it was virtually empty, something which would be unheard of at say Brighton Beach in the U.K. - there is about a 2 mile section of the beach where you can exercise your dogs and it was fantastic to see everyone there chatting and basically being friendly.
All I can say on the shop situation is people who moan about not being able to get Marmite etc need to get a life - yes the clothes shops are different, maybe not the cutting edge of fashion we get in the U.K. but so what ?? we shopped in various Supermarkets, Coles, Woolworths etc and the quality is
good.
My first visit to Perth we stayed in Hilarys Harbour and although nice is very touristy, I personally know that I need to live somewhere where I can go at night for a meal or a drink within walking distance, everything is so spread out and you need you car all the time. It is nothing like the U.K. people who move out and think that it is are in for a shock - The Aussies may speak the same language but the whole way of life is completely different to us - it has to be due to the Geographical differences between the two Countries.
Couple of negatives are that they do drive dreadfully, they do sit in the fast lane and refuse to move and then you have to undertake them, on both occasions we have seen may "Hoons" racing cars around, I think that if they made insurance really high for these kids like in the U.K. it may hep the problem, they drive around in really powerful cars. The houses may be bigger than you are used to in the U.K. but the gardens are virtually non-existent, they build the houses so close to each other and desperate the houses with corrugated iron fences - disgusting in my opinion and when we buy I know we deffo need some space between us and the neighbour, I bet there are many neighbour disputes due to the close proximity of the houses.
My overall view of Perth is this - I currently live about ten miles out of London, I do not feel safe to walk out on the streets at night, the police have to get on the buses when school finishes because of the behaviour of the kids, kids on the streets carry knifes and nobody seems to have any respect for the country or each other, I know many people say the U.K. is fine - well maybe it is where you live but it is far from alright where i live, and I do not live in a crap area, we have a 3 bed semi worth over £300k.
The lifestyle in Perth is what really appeals to me, they look after their city, it is immaculate, We went out at night most nights all over and felt safe, just likeminded people out and about enjoying life, if my kids were young I would have no hesitation taking them out there, kids out surfing, playing in parks it was lovely to see.
We are going to Brisbane next year for six weeks to try and decide where we will go, but the more time I spend out there the more my ideas change each time, I personally would not emigrate to a country which I have never visited, if you want to make your re-location a successful one you need to research as much as possible, stop comparing all the time to the U.K. (which is easier said than done) prepare to be realistic and flexible otherwise it will never work, it is a HUGE thing to do, but if I had to choose between the two countries as to where I want to live my life there is no question - AUSTRALIA
The following observations are obviously personal ones but I thought it may be helpful for people who have never been to Perth before.
On this visit we stayed in East Perth, off Royal Street and we loved it. My children have grown up and I must say inner city life appeals to me more and more, East Perth is undergoing alot of building - townhouses and apartments ( probably not suitable for people with kids) there are cycle tracks everywhere, the Aussies are exercising and walking and running and basically out and about, Easter Monday we spent on Scarborough beach and it was virtually empty, something which would be unheard of at say Brighton Beach in the U.K. - there is about a 2 mile section of the beach where you can exercise your dogs and it was fantastic to see everyone there chatting and basically being friendly.
All I can say on the shop situation is people who moan about not being able to get Marmite etc need to get a life - yes the clothes shops are different, maybe not the cutting edge of fashion we get in the U.K. but so what ?? we shopped in various Supermarkets, Coles, Woolworths etc and the quality is
good.
My first visit to Perth we stayed in Hilarys Harbour and although nice is very touristy, I personally know that I need to live somewhere where I can go at night for a meal or a drink within walking distance, everything is so spread out and you need you car all the time. It is nothing like the U.K. people who move out and think that it is are in for a shock - The Aussies may speak the same language but the whole way of life is completely different to us - it has to be due to the Geographical differences between the two Countries.
Couple of negatives are that they do drive dreadfully, they do sit in the fast lane and refuse to move and then you have to undertake them, on both occasions we have seen may "Hoons" racing cars around, I think that if they made insurance really high for these kids like in the U.K. it may hep the problem, they drive around in really powerful cars. The houses may be bigger than you are used to in the U.K. but the gardens are virtually non-existent, they build the houses so close to each other and desperate the houses with corrugated iron fences - disgusting in my opinion and when we buy I know we deffo need some space between us and the neighbour, I bet there are many neighbour disputes due to the close proximity of the houses.
My overall view of Perth is this - I currently live about ten miles out of London, I do not feel safe to walk out on the streets at night, the police have to get on the buses when school finishes because of the behaviour of the kids, kids on the streets carry knifes and nobody seems to have any respect for the country or each other, I know many people say the U.K. is fine - well maybe it is where you live but it is far from alright where i live, and I do not live in a crap area, we have a 3 bed semi worth over £300k.
The lifestyle in Perth is what really appeals to me, they look after their city, it is immaculate, We went out at night most nights all over and felt safe, just likeminded people out and about enjoying life, if my kids were young I would have no hesitation taking them out there, kids out surfing, playing in parks it was lovely to see.
We are going to Brisbane next year for six weeks to try and decide where we will go, but the more time I spend out there the more my ideas change each time, I personally would not emigrate to a country which I have never visited, if you want to make your re-location a successful one you need to research as much as possible, stop comparing all the time to the U.K. (which is easier said than done) prepare to be realistic and flexible otherwise it will never work, it is a HUGE thing to do, but if I had to choose between the two countries as to where I want to live my life there is no question - AUSTRALIA
Apr 17th 2007 | 7:07 pm
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Good post. Wouldn't disagree with anything said.
One negative point you didn't mention was the influx of Muslim refugees from war torn Africa that now populate the city.
You'll like Brissie. We did, but decided west is best.
One negative point you didn't mention was the influx of Muslim refugees from war torn Africa that now populate the city.
You'll like Brissie. We did, but decided west is best.
Apr 17th 2007 | 7:09 pm
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Enjoyed the post....good luck in your decisions where to live. Keep us all posted 
Apr 17th 2007 | 7:09 pm
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We have just come back from Perth after out second visit, we have obtained our permanent residency two years ago and will not be moving out for another two and a bit years - virtually just before the Visa expires, there are various reasons for this, but we are going out each year to try to decide whether we will settle in Perth or Brisbane - I think the more time you can spend beforehand is invaluable and my initial feelings of Australia have changed from when I first visited the Country.
The following observations are obviously personal ones but I thought it may be helpful for people who have never been to Perth before.
On this visit we stayed in East Perth, off Royal Street and we loved it. My children have grown up and I must say inner city life appeals to me more and more, East Perth is undergoing alot of building - townhouses and apartments ( probably not suitable for people with kids) there are cycle tracks everywhere, the Aussies are exercising and walking and running and basically out and about, Easter Monday we spent on Scarborough beach and it was virtually empty, something which would be unheard of at say Brighton Beach in the U.K. - there is about a 2 mile section of the beach where you can exercise your dogs and it was fantastic to see everyone there chatting and basically being friendly.
All I can say on the shop situation is people who moan about not being able to get Marmite etc need to get a life - yes the clothes shops are different, maybe not the cutting edge of fashion we get in the U.K. but so what ?? we shopped in various Supermarkets, Coles, Woolworths etc and the quality is
good.
My first visit to Perth we stayed in Hilarys Harbour and although nice is very touristy, I personally know that I need to live somewhere where I can go at night for a meal or a drink within walking distance, everything is so spread out and you need you car all the time. It is nothing like the U.K. people who move out and think that it is are in for a shock - The Aussies may speak the same language but the whole way of life is completely different to us - it has to be due to the Geographical differences between the two Countries.
Couple of negatives are that they do drive dreadfully, they do sit in the fast lane and refuse to move and then you have to undertake them, on both occasions we have seen may "Hoons" racing cars around, I think that if they made insurance really high for these kids like in the U.K. it may hep the problem, they drive around in really powerful cars. The houses may be bigger than you are used to in the U.K. but the gardens are virtually non-existent, they build the houses so close to each other and desperate the houses with corrugated iron fences - disgusting in my opinion and when we buy I know we deffo need some space between us and the neighbour, I bet there are many neighbour disputes due to the close proximity of the houses.
My overall view of Perth is this - I currently live about ten miles out of London, I do not feel safe to walk out on the streets at night, the police have to get on the buses when school finishes because of the behaviour of the kids, kids on the streets carry knifes and nobody seems to have any respect for the country or each other, I know many people say the U.K. is fine - well maybe it is where you live but it is far from alright where i live, and I do not live in a crap area, we have a 3 bed semi worth over £300k.
The lifestyle in Perth is what really appeals to me, they look after their city, it is immaculate, We went out at night most nights all over and felt safe, just likeminded people out and about enjoying life, if my kids were young I would have no hesitation taking them out there, kids out surfing, playing in parks it was lovely to see.
We are going to Brisbane next year for six weeks to try and decide where we will go, but the more time I spend out there the more my ideas change each time, I personally would not emigrate to a country which I have never visited, if you want to make your re-location a successful one you need to research as much as possible, stop comparing all the time to the U.K. (which is easier said than done) prepare to be realistic and flexible otherwise it will never work, it is a HUGE thing to do, but if I had to choose between the two countries as to where I want to live my life there is no question - AUSTRALIA
The following observations are obviously personal ones but I thought it may be helpful for people who have never been to Perth before.
On this visit we stayed in East Perth, off Royal Street and we loved it. My children have grown up and I must say inner city life appeals to me more and more, East Perth is undergoing alot of building - townhouses and apartments ( probably not suitable for people with kids) there are cycle tracks everywhere, the Aussies are exercising and walking and running and basically out and about, Easter Monday we spent on Scarborough beach and it was virtually empty, something which would be unheard of at say Brighton Beach in the U.K. - there is about a 2 mile section of the beach where you can exercise your dogs and it was fantastic to see everyone there chatting and basically being friendly.
All I can say on the shop situation is people who moan about not being able to get Marmite etc need to get a life - yes the clothes shops are different, maybe not the cutting edge of fashion we get in the U.K. but so what ?? we shopped in various Supermarkets, Coles, Woolworths etc and the quality is
good.
My first visit to Perth we stayed in Hilarys Harbour and although nice is very touristy, I personally know that I need to live somewhere where I can go at night for a meal or a drink within walking distance, everything is so spread out and you need you car all the time. It is nothing like the U.K. people who move out and think that it is are in for a shock - The Aussies may speak the same language but the whole way of life is completely different to us - it has to be due to the Geographical differences between the two Countries.
Couple of negatives are that they do drive dreadfully, they do sit in the fast lane and refuse to move and then you have to undertake them, on both occasions we have seen may "Hoons" racing cars around, I think that if they made insurance really high for these kids like in the U.K. it may hep the problem, they drive around in really powerful cars. The houses may be bigger than you are used to in the U.K. but the gardens are virtually non-existent, they build the houses so close to each other and desperate the houses with corrugated iron fences - disgusting in my opinion and when we buy I know we deffo need some space between us and the neighbour, I bet there are many neighbour disputes due to the close proximity of the houses.
My overall view of Perth is this - I currently live about ten miles out of London, I do not feel safe to walk out on the streets at night, the police have to get on the buses when school finishes because of the behaviour of the kids, kids on the streets carry knifes and nobody seems to have any respect for the country or each other, I know many people say the U.K. is fine - well maybe it is where you live but it is far from alright where i live, and I do not live in a crap area, we have a 3 bed semi worth over £300k.
The lifestyle in Perth is what really appeals to me, they look after their city, it is immaculate, We went out at night most nights all over and felt safe, just likeminded people out and about enjoying life, if my kids were young I would have no hesitation taking them out there, kids out surfing, playing in parks it was lovely to see.
We are going to Brisbane next year for six weeks to try and decide where we will go, but the more time I spend out there the more my ideas change each time, I personally would not emigrate to a country which I have never visited, if you want to make your re-location a successful one you need to research as much as possible, stop comparing all the time to the U.K. (which is easier said than done) prepare to be realistic and flexible otherwise it will never work, it is a HUGE thing to do, but if I had to choose between the two countries as to where I want to live my life there is no question - AUSTRALIA
we also are going to stay in perth area and have been there twice and totally agree we everything you said.
Apr 17th 2007 | 7:39 pm
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I've never been for a visit to Perth - but I'm going to live anyway - flights booked for 3 July!!! Silly me.........thanks for the info, hope you enjoy brissie too.
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Apr 17th 2007 | 7:56 pm
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Dont worry, We never visited or done any research and we are very settled and happy, We just embraced the changes and go with the flow.
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Apr 17th 2007 | 8:03 pm
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Apr 17th 2007 | 8:25 pm
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Apr 17th 2007 | 8:45 pm
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Great post
We leave for perth next week and can not wait!
Although was under the impression from a police man friend (in Perth) that they dont have a fast lane you drive in any lane you want to!
Kate & Lew
We leave for perth next week and can not wait!
Although was under the impression from a police man friend (in Perth) that they dont have a fast lane you drive in any lane you want to!
Kate & Lew
Apr 17th 2007 | 8:51 pm
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Well there are dual carriageways and a left and right hand lane and they sit in the right hand lane and you have to undertake to get past which is illegal in the U.K. - maybe its different over there but I dont think so, there are many signs saying "keep left except when overtaking" anyway its a minor issue and just something you have to get used to - in the U.K. everyone is rushing around so much that when you drive over there you can find it frustrating when they are poodling around!!!
Apr 17th 2007 | 9:13 pm
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Well there are dual carriageways and a left and right hand lane and they sit in the right hand lane and you have to undertake to get past which is illegal in the U.K. - maybe its different over there but I dont think so, there are many signs saying "keep left except when overtaking" anyway its a minor issue and just something you have to get used to - in the U.K. everyone is rushing around so much that when you drive over there you can find it frustrating when they are poodling around!!!
Apr 17th 2007 | 9:15 pm
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Well there are dual carriageways and a left and right hand lane and they sit in the right hand lane and you have to undertake to get past which is illegal in the U.K. - maybe its different over there but I dont think so, there are many signs saying "keep left except when overtaking" anyway its a minor issue and just something you have to get used to - in the U.K. everyone is rushing around so much that when you drive over there you can find it frustrating when they are poodling around!!!
Apr 18th 2007 | 11:38 pm
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Apr 19th 2007 | 1:59 am
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East Perth was a good choice. EPRA (East Perth Redevelopment Authority) has put some great plans in place for the area according to new urbanist principles. Everyone I know who lives there loves it.
Mark
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We have just come back from Perth after out second visit, we have obtained our permanent residency two years ago and will not be moving out for another two and a bit years - virtually just before the Visa expires, there are various reasons for this, but we are going out each year to try to decide whether we will settle in Perth or Brisbane - I think the more time you can spend beforehand is invaluable and my initial feelings of Australia have changed from when I first visited the Country.
The following observations are obviously personal ones but I thought it may be helpful for people who have never been to Perth before.
On this visit we stayed in East Perth, off Royal Street and we loved it. My children have grown up and I must say inner city life appeals to me more and more, East Perth is undergoing alot of building - townhouses and apartments ( probably not suitable for people with kids) there are cycle tracks everywhere, the Aussies are exercising and walking and running and basically out and about, Easter Monday we spent on Scarborough beach and it was virtually empty, something which would be unheard of at say Brighton Beach in the U.K. - there is about a 2 mile section of the beach where you can exercise your dogs and it was fantastic to see everyone there chatting and basically being friendly.
All I can say on the shop situation is people who moan about not being able to get Marmite etc need to get a life - yes the clothes shops are different, maybe not the cutting edge of fashion we get in the U.K. but so what ?? we shopped in various Supermarkets, Coles, Woolworths etc and the quality is
good.
My first visit to Perth we stayed in Hilarys Harbour and although nice is very touristy, I personally know that I need to live somewhere where I can go at night for a meal or a drink within walking distance, everything is so spread out and you need you car all the time. It is nothing like the U.K. people who move out and think that it is are in for a shock - The Aussies may speak the same language but the whole way of life is completely different to us - it has to be due to the Geographical differences between the two Countries.
Couple of negatives are that they do drive dreadfully, they do sit in the fast lane and refuse to move and then you have to undertake them, on both occasions we have seen may "Hoons" racing cars around, I think that if they made insurance really high for these kids like in the U.K. it may hep the problem, they drive around in really powerful cars. The houses may be bigger than you are used to in the U.K. but the gardens are virtually non-existent, they build the houses so close to each other and desperate the houses with corrugated iron fences - disgusting in my opinion and when we buy I know we deffo need some space between us and the neighbour, I bet there are many neighbour disputes due to the close proximity of the houses.
My overall view of Perth is this - I currently live about ten miles out of London, I do not feel safe to walk out on the streets at night, the police have to get on the buses when school finishes because of the behaviour of the kids, kids on the streets carry knifes and nobody seems to have any respect for the country or each other, I know many people say the U.K. is fine - well maybe it is where you live but it is far from alright where i live, and I do not live in a crap area, we have a 3 bed semi worth over £300k.
The lifestyle in Perth is what really appeals to me, they look after their city, it is immaculate, We went out at night most nights all over and felt safe, just likeminded people out and about enjoying life, if my kids were young I would have no hesitation taking them out there, kids out surfing, playing in parks it was lovely to see.
We are going to Brisbane next year for six weeks to try and decide where we will go, but the more time I spend out there the more my ideas change each time, I personally would not emigrate to a country which I have never visited, if you want to make your re-location a successful one you need to research as much as possible, stop comparing all the time to the U.K. (which is easier said than done) prepare to be realistic and flexible otherwise it will never work, it is a HUGE thing to do, but if I had to choose between the two countries as to where I want to live my life there is no question - AUSTRALIA
The following observations are obviously personal ones but I thought it may be helpful for people who have never been to Perth before.
On this visit we stayed in East Perth, off Royal Street and we loved it. My children have grown up and I must say inner city life appeals to me more and more, East Perth is undergoing alot of building - townhouses and apartments ( probably not suitable for people with kids) there are cycle tracks everywhere, the Aussies are exercising and walking and running and basically out and about, Easter Monday we spent on Scarborough beach and it was virtually empty, something which would be unheard of at say Brighton Beach in the U.K. - there is about a 2 mile section of the beach where you can exercise your dogs and it was fantastic to see everyone there chatting and basically being friendly.
All I can say on the shop situation is people who moan about not being able to get Marmite etc need to get a life - yes the clothes shops are different, maybe not the cutting edge of fashion we get in the U.K. but so what ?? we shopped in various Supermarkets, Coles, Woolworths etc and the quality is
good.
My first visit to Perth we stayed in Hilarys Harbour and although nice is very touristy, I personally know that I need to live somewhere where I can go at night for a meal or a drink within walking distance, everything is so spread out and you need you car all the time. It is nothing like the U.K. people who move out and think that it is are in for a shock - The Aussies may speak the same language but the whole way of life is completely different to us - it has to be due to the Geographical differences between the two Countries.
Couple of negatives are that they do drive dreadfully, they do sit in the fast lane and refuse to move and then you have to undertake them, on both occasions we have seen may "Hoons" racing cars around, I think that if they made insurance really high for these kids like in the U.K. it may hep the problem, they drive around in really powerful cars. The houses may be bigger than you are used to in the U.K. but the gardens are virtually non-existent, they build the houses so close to each other and desperate the houses with corrugated iron fences - disgusting in my opinion and when we buy I know we deffo need some space between us and the neighbour, I bet there are many neighbour disputes due to the close proximity of the houses.
My overall view of Perth is this - I currently live about ten miles out of London, I do not feel safe to walk out on the streets at night, the police have to get on the buses when school finishes because of the behaviour of the kids, kids on the streets carry knifes and nobody seems to have any respect for the country or each other, I know many people say the U.K. is fine - well maybe it is where you live but it is far from alright where i live, and I do not live in a crap area, we have a 3 bed semi worth over £300k.
The lifestyle in Perth is what really appeals to me, they look after their city, it is immaculate, We went out at night most nights all over and felt safe, just likeminded people out and about enjoying life, if my kids were young I would have no hesitation taking them out there, kids out surfing, playing in parks it was lovely to see.
We are going to Brisbane next year for six weeks to try and decide where we will go, but the more time I spend out there the more my ideas change each time, I personally would not emigrate to a country which I have never visited, if you want to make your re-location a successful one you need to research as much as possible, stop comparing all the time to the U.K. (which is easier said than done) prepare to be realistic and flexible otherwise it will never work, it is a HUGE thing to do, but if I had to choose between the two countries as to where I want to live my life there is no question - AUSTRALIA
Apr 19th 2007 | 2:23 am
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I live in the Northern suburbs and am very happy here, but I agree that if you don't have children and enjoy going out regularly then you're probably going to prefer living near the city.
I've been here for a year and a half now. Yesterday I was with my daughter at the local playground when 2 boys (about 12 years old) were putting their bikes onto the equipment and trying to cycle down the slide. I suggested (nicely, as I know boys just want to do things like that!!) that they might want to go to the local skate/cycle park. I thought I was going to get a response like I would have got from kids at the local park where I lived in the UK, which would have been a few swear words and probably wouldn't have moved. It was nothing like that, they very politely asked me where the skate park was, apologised and went off. I have definitely noticed a difference in the attitude of the young people over here, they seem more polite and respectful. Maybe I've just been lucky with the people I've bumped into, who knows.
Good luck with wherever you decide to live. I've never been to Brisbane, I know people who have been and they have all said how lovely it is. I would like to visit one day but don't think I could live there, I've heard it's very humid in summer - my hair just wouldn't cope!!
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I've been here for a year and a half now. Yesterday I was with my daughter at the local playground when 2 boys (about 12 years old) were putting their bikes onto the equipment and trying to cycle down the slide. I suggested (nicely, as I know boys just want to do things like that!!) that they might want to go to the local skate/cycle park. I thought I was going to get a response like I would have got from kids at the local park where I lived in the UK, which would have been a few swear words and probably wouldn't have moved. It was nothing like that, they very politely asked me where the skate park was, apologised and went off. I have definitely noticed a difference in the attitude of the young people over here, they seem more polite and respectful. Maybe I've just been lucky with the people I've bumped into, who knows.
Good luck with wherever you decide to live. I've never been to Brisbane, I know people who have been and they have all said how lovely it is. I would like to visit one day but don't think I could live there, I've heard it's very humid in summer - my hair just wouldn't cope!!
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