Baby it's cold inside
Jul 15th 2004, 11:43 am
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Baby it's cold inside
I will state first of all that the weather in NSW was magnificent all the while we were there. The sky was blue and it got surprisingly warm during the day. The locals were not so happy as it is a drought and reservoir levels are dangerously low. Great for us on holiday though. However droughts need to be taken seriously as it also increases the fire risk as well as having to put up with water restrictions. I also understand that prolonged dry weather can do serios damage to property so it is not all good.
What came as a shock was the difference in temperature once the sun dropped (around 5 PM). It felt FREEZING:scared: .I'm serious.
The first night we arrived in Sydney we went for a walk. We were cold,very cold. We needed jumpers and fleeces and were wishing we had brought woolly hats. It brought tears to our eyes.
Next day we wrapped up to go sightseeing and it turned warm!
Then after dark it got cold again.Forget headline figures about temperatures. It felt cold.
The real problem with the cold is that houses are so poorly heated and badly insulated. My cousin had a gas heater in one room in her house and the whole family use the one room. If you want a big house with space for the kids then you also going to need a few heaters!
In Adelaide it was mostly wet and cold. My son has a log burning stove and reverse air conditioning but we still needed another heater in the bedroom. Most people also have electric blankets and these were in all the motels/hotels we used.
People in the UK may not be able to get their heads round this but it really surprised me. Beautiful days and cold nights.
You will not be having year round BBQs unless you are an eskimo
Why do houses not have central heating? It would make life so much more comfortable.
BTW even on the beautiful sunny days in NSW most people were wearing coats and hats and complaining of the cold!
G
What came as a shock was the difference in temperature once the sun dropped (around 5 PM). It felt FREEZING:scared: .I'm serious.
The first night we arrived in Sydney we went for a walk. We were cold,very cold. We needed jumpers and fleeces and were wishing we had brought woolly hats. It brought tears to our eyes.
Next day we wrapped up to go sightseeing and it turned warm!
Then after dark it got cold again.Forget headline figures about temperatures. It felt cold.
The real problem with the cold is that houses are so poorly heated and badly insulated. My cousin had a gas heater in one room in her house and the whole family use the one room. If you want a big house with space for the kids then you also going to need a few heaters!
In Adelaide it was mostly wet and cold. My son has a log burning stove and reverse air conditioning but we still needed another heater in the bedroom. Most people also have electric blankets and these were in all the motels/hotels we used.
People in the UK may not be able to get their heads round this but it really surprised me. Beautiful days and cold nights.
You will not be having year round BBQs unless you are an eskimo
Why do houses not have central heating? It would make life so much more comfortable.
BTW even on the beautiful sunny days in NSW most people were wearing coats and hats and complaining of the cold!
G
Jul 15th 2004, 11:45 am
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Michelle (mlbonner) and I were discussing this the other night -
especially with reference to people who sit with all the doors and windows open, to let in fresh air, while they are wrapped up in woolies and complaining of the cold! Agree with you totally, grayling, houses here are just too cold - and heaters are too expensive to buy!
Why do houses not have central heating? It would make life so much more comfortable.
Jul 15th 2004, 11:46 am
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Yes, it is cold at night. Never had so many blankets on my bed till I came here.
Not for too much longer I hope.
Whisky
Not for too much longer I hope.
Whisky
Jul 15th 2004, 11:54 am
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Funy thing is: the Yanks are temperature whimps too - funny 'cos they have serious weather.
Jul 15th 2004, 11:55 am
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Re: Baby it's cold inside
Originally posted by Grayling
Why do houses not have central heating? It would make life so much more comfortable.
G
Why do houses not have central heating? It would make life so much more comfortable.
G
In Melbourne most modern houses have ducted heating. Floor vents in every room....just as good as central heating in the UK.
Only 5 days until we move into our own house......which has ducted heating.....yey
Jul 15th 2004, 11:59 am
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Re: Baby it's cold inside
Originally posted by Jaykay
Grayling
In Melbourne most modern houses have ducted heating. Floor vents in every room....just as good as central heating in the UK.
Only 5 days until we move into our own house......which has ducted heating.....yey
Grayling
In Melbourne most modern houses have ducted heating. Floor vents in every room....just as good as central heating in the UK.
Only 5 days until we move into our own house......which has ducted heating.....yey
I thought that some houses had started using C/H. My son's in Adelaide is 1930's so does not but would need it.
NSW houses did not seem to. Don't know about elsewhere.
Good luck with the move
Best wishes
G
Jul 15th 2004, 12:02 pm
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And in summer you could say these houses are poorly insulated, boiling hot and why dont they have aircondioning.
OZ's greatest mystery, why do most people live as they did in the year 1904 with regard to heating and cooling?
OZ's greatest mystery, why do most people live as they did in the year 1904
with regard to heating and cooling?
Jul 15th 2004, 12:04 pm
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We,re in nz and have the same prob and we have a new house now (well 4yrs old), still has no double glazing although I think it has a bit of insulation compared to the shed of a wooden rental we first lived in. We have never been so cold. I cant understand the lack of central heating ... when I was a child our house had an open fire and a back boiler (wetback) which fed the hot water tank and the radiators in all the rooms. So the lack of natural gas is no excuse 
Jul 15th 2004, 12:04 pm
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Originally posted by jad n rich
And in summer you could say these houses are poorly insulated, boiling hot and why dont they have aircondioning.
OZ's greatest mystery, why do most people live as they did in the year 1904 with regard to heating and cooling?
And in summer you could say these houses are poorly insulated, boiling hot and why dont they have aircondioning.
OZ's greatest mystery, why do most people live as they did in the year 1904
with regard to heating and cooling?
Jul 15th 2004, 12:24 pm
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For those who can not take it any more:
Just $5k will fit out a 150 m^2 house with gas ducted heating.
House Heating
Don't curse the coldness, light a candle.
Just $5k will fit out a 150 m^2 house with gas ducted heating.
House Heating
Don't curse the coldness, light a candle.
Jul 15th 2004, 12:40 pm
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Originally posted by Megalania
For those who can not take it any more:
Just $5k will fit out a 150 m^2 house with gas ducted heating.
House Heating
Don't curse the coldness, light a candle.
For those who can not take it any more:
Just $5k will fit out a 150 m^2 house with gas ducted heating.
House Heating
Don't curse the coldness, light a candle.
A useful indication but I suspect that the price is higher than that now. That article was written in Jan 2002
Jul 15th 2004, 12:44 pm
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Re: Baby it's cold inside
We couldn't believe how cold it was when we visited Melbourne last August. Had to buy scarves and gloves! Family back home didn't believe us!
Originally posted by Grayling
I will state first of all that the weather in NSW was magnificent all the while we were there. The sky was blue and it got surprisingly warm during the day. The locals were not so happy as it is a drought and reservoir levels are dangerously low. Great for us on holiday though. However droughts need to be taken seriously as it also increases the fire risk as well as having to put up with water restrictions. I also understand that prolonged dry weather can do serios damage to property so it is not all good.
What came as a shock was the difference in temperature once the sun dropped (around 5 PM). It felt FREEZING:scared: .I'm serious.
The first night we arrived in Sydney we went for a walk. We were cold,very cold. We needed jumpers and fleeces and were wishing we had brought woolly hats. It brought tears to our eyes.
Next day we wrapped up to go sightseeing and it turned warm!
Then after dark it got cold again.Forget headline figures about temperatures. It felt cold.
The real problem with the cold is that houses are so poorly heated and badly insulated. My cousin had a gas heater in one room in her house and the whole family use the one room. If you want a big house with space for the kids then you also going to need a few heaters!
In Adelaide it was mostly wet and cold. My son has a log burning stove and reverse air conditioning but we still needed another heater in the bedroom. Most people also have electric blankets and these were in all the motels/hotels we used.
People in the UK may not be able to get their heads round this but it really surprised me. Beautiful days and cold nights.
You will not be having year round BBQs unless you are an eskimo
Why do houses not have central heating? It would make life so much more comfortable.
BTW even on the beautiful sunny days in NSW most people were wearing coats and hats and complaining of the cold!
G
I will state first of all that the weather in NSW was magnificent all the while we were there. The sky was blue and it got surprisingly warm during the day. The locals were not so happy as it is a drought and reservoir levels are dangerously low. Great for us on holiday though. However droughts need to be taken seriously as it also increases the fire risk as well as having to put up with water restrictions. I also understand that prolonged dry weather can do serios damage to property so it is not all good.
What came as a shock was the difference in temperature once the sun dropped (around 5 PM). It felt FREEZING:scared: .I'm serious.
The first night we arrived in Sydney we went for a walk. We were cold,very cold. We needed jumpers and fleeces and were wishing we had brought woolly hats. It brought tears to our eyes.
Next day we wrapped up to go sightseeing and it turned warm!
Then after dark it got cold again.Forget headline figures about temperatures. It felt cold.
The real problem with the cold is that houses are so poorly heated and badly insulated. My cousin had a gas heater in one room in her house and the whole family use the one room. If you want a big house with space for the kids then you also going to need a few heaters!
In Adelaide it was mostly wet and cold. My son has a log burning stove and reverse air conditioning but we still needed another heater in the bedroom. Most people also have electric blankets and these were in all the motels/hotels we used.
People in the UK may not be able to get their heads round this but it really surprised me. Beautiful days and cold nights.
You will not be having year round BBQs unless you are an eskimo
Why do houses not have central heating? It would make life so much more comfortable.
BTW even on the beautiful sunny days in NSW most people were wearing coats and hats and complaining of the cold!
G
Jul 15th 2004, 12:55 pm
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Originally posted by darkless
A useful indication but I suspect that the price is higher than that now. That article was written in Jan 2002
A useful indication but I suspect that the price is higher than that now. That article was written in Jan 2002
Jul 15th 2004, 1:02 pm
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Houses can be built with a high degree of insulation which can keep them cool in summer and warm in the winter months, but its all down to good design.
A good Architect will look at many factors including location, orientation of building, height, wind chill, etc, and design accordingly. Building codes are a starting point only., and buildrs will build down to a standard.
A good Architect will look at many factors including location, orientation of building, height, wind chill, etc, and design accordingly. Building codes are a starting point only., and buildrs will build down to a standard.
Jul 15th 2004, 1:04 pm
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Originally posted by Sukhi
Houses can be built with a high degree of insulation which can keep them cool in summer and warm in the winter months, but its all down to good design.
A good Architect will look at many factors including location, orientation of building, height, wind chill, etc, and design accordingly. Building codes are a starting point only., and buildrs will build down to a standard.
Houses can be built with a high degree of insulation which can keep them cool in summer and warm in the winter months, but its all down to good design.
A good Architect will look at many factors including location, orientation of building, height, wind chill, etc, and design accordingly. Building codes are a starting point only., and buildrs will build down to a standard.