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Average pay
Does anyone know what would be a realistic income to live on in brisbane for a family of 3. Is it possible to live on $40-45000 or am I in dream land
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Originally posted by judi Does anyone know what would be a realistic income to live on in brisbane for a family of 3. Is it possible to live on $40-45000 or am I in dream land You will take home around $600 per week and food alone will take nearly half of that , unless you live on rice and cheap cuts of meat. The questions begs is why set your sights so low the only way to have a life here is two incomes , it would be a very poor standard of living on your figure. :D :cool: :beer: |
Re: Average pay
Originally posted by judi Does anyone know what would be a realistic income to live on in brisbane for a family of 3. Is it possible to live on $40-45000 or am I in dream land Double it |
I think the first 2 posters are living in dreamland. The average wage in Brisbane I would think is around $40,000, you wouldn't be rolling in it but you could live comfortably.
Here are a few prices in Aussie dollars for Brisbane. 2 litres milk $2-80 1kg top quality steak $15.00 Loaf of bread $2.00 5kg spuds $5 Bottle of red wine $5-$10 and upwards. Cask of wine 4 Lts $12 1ltr petrol $0.80 500gms butter $2.20 1kg frozen peas $2.50 Bus fare to and from city from 10Kms out $28 per week Take away lunch whilst at work $5 per day Macdonalds big MAC meal with drink and chips $6. Heating cost $0, I don't even own a heater but bought fans for mid summer. I'm sure you could get more details form Woolworths.com.au or Coles.com.au as they are the big supermarket chains and they sell groceries online. I budget about $50 per week for all groceries and household consumerables for one. |
Originally posted by Kiwipaul I think the first 2 posters are living in dreamland. The average wage in Brisbane I would think is around $40,000, you wouldn't be rolling in it but you could live comfortably. Here are a few prices in Aussie dollars for Brisbane. 2 litres milk $2-80 1kg top quality steak $15.00 Loaf of bread $2.00 5kg spuds $5 Bottle of red wine $5-$10 and upwards. Cask of wine 4 Lts $12 1ltr petrol $0.80 500gms butter $2.20 1kg frozen peas $2.50 Bus fare to and from city from 10Kms out $28 per week Take away lunch whilst at work $5 per day Macdonalds big MAC meal with drink and chips $6. Heating cost $0, I don't even own a heater but bought fans for mid summer. I'm sure you could get more details form Woolworths.com.au or Coles.com.au as they are the big supermarket chains and they sell groceries online. I budget about $50 per week for all groceries and household consumerables for one. Must stop laughing if you spent only $50 dollars on food I wish I had your belly it must get by on very little. Spent more than half of that on a take away but good luck to you. Next you will explain that a home on the beach costs less than $100K but you will have to hammer the pegs in yourself. http://www.greengrocer.com.au/defaul...n_id=2&level=1 :D :cool: :beer: :D : |
"I budget about $50 per week for all groceries and household consumerables for one."
On your own figures $50 would cover some milk, bread, butter, a bit of meat, some peas and lunch at work each day, but not travel to work. There may be no real heating costs, but rent for a family with kids is going to be a minimum of $300/week. Food and groceries for three will be around $250/week. Petrol is almost free (relative to UK) but car purchase/maintenance is not. Phone bills for British expats say $50/week, mobile phone bill from $150/month (on low use). Sun lotion for kids say $15/week. That's before clothes, eating out or entertainment. $40k may be the average wage but I wouldn't like to bring up a family on it. |
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Originally posted by judi Does anyone know what would be a realistic income to live on in brisbane for a family of 3. Is it possible to live on $40-45000 or am I in dream land $45 thou is far too low! I don't know if you've been offered a job with this wage, but forget it! That wage is too low - And there's no way I can see anyone bringing up a family of three on that amount, you will be living in poverty - working just to make ends meet. I just can't see how any family can live on that amount here in Aus - maybe ok for a young single person, but not for a family of three. cheers:) |
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Originally posted by Ceri I spend around $145 on my weekly shop at Coles (this is not including bread, milk and little extras in the week which I may run out of - which then probably would add up to $200 a week) - There's two of us (Adults) and two cats - which is relevant - because they cost me a fortune in food and litter, so for one person yes it's possible $50 a week for basic groceries. Shopping is the very least of my expences, add up all the other out goings. $45 thou is far too low! I don't know if you've been offered a job with this wage, but forget it! That wage is too low - And there's no way I can see anyone bringing up a family of three on that amount, you will be living in poverty - working just to make ends meet. I just can't see how any family can live on that amount here in Aus - maybe ok for a young single person, but not for a family of three. cheers:) Is this salary good if it does not include mortgage payments, car finanacing payments? I worked out a budget of about $2k per month just for basics (food, household, children's school expenses, utilities, internet, car maint, medical insurance). Exclude entertainment, holidays, clothes etc. This is for a family of 2 adults and 2 kids Thanks Nina |
$2k per month for basic living costs sounds about right, call it $3.5k to be able to buy extras and enjoy yourself too.
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Well we are in perth and we are a family of 4 , we have $800 on a good week coming into the house , food is around $200 , our rent is $230 , we run 2 cars which is not cheap , telephone was $169 for the month last month , electric was $170 for the month, we have to say compared to alot of people we know paul brings in a good wage , and we really do struggle!!! oh then you have all the school fees , ours are at state schools but you still have to pay for all their books etc , and its not cheap . We now do not convert to pounds anymore we live and work and dollars. We dont go out very much , alcohol is not on the priorty list either sadly , so its hard , but hey we are ok !! Joanne |
Originally posted by jayr "I budget about $50 per week for all groceries and household consumerables for one." On your own figures $50 would cover some milk, bread, butter, a bit of meat, some peas and lunch at work each day, but not travel to work. There may be no real heating costs, but rent for a family with kids is going to be a minimum of $300/week. Food and groceries for three will be around $250/week. Petrol is almost free (relative to UK) but car purchase/maintenance is not. Phone bills for British expats say $50/week, mobile phone bill from $150/month (on low use). Sun lotion for kids say $15/week. That's before clothes, eating out or entertainment. $40k may be the average wage but I wouldn't like to bring up a family on it. You can buy a prepaid mobile, stick $30 dollars on it and just use it for recieving calls or emergencies and that will run for 6 months, compared to your extravegently spending of $900. My last car service 60,000kms on a Laser cost $80 including all parts. I don't run top of the range 4 wheel drive, or buy expensive cars. I've had the car for 2 years done 20,000kms with no breakdowns. Cars are expensive here but we don't get the hard winter weather you get in the UK so running costs are far lower. Nice 2 bed appartments in Cooparoo can be had for $200-250 per week. Further out 10-20kms you can get new 3 bedroom houses for $250-300 per week. A family of 3 could live here spending $150 per week on groceries with no trouble. |
Originally posted by jayr $2k per month for basic living costs sounds about right, call it $3.5k to be able to buy extras and enjoy yourself too. Nina |
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Originally posted by NinaU Hi Ceri, Is this salary good if it does not include mortgage payments, car finanacing payments? I worked out a budget of about $2k per month just for basics (food, household, children's school expenses, utilities, internet, car maint, medical insurance). Exclude entertainment, holidays, clothes etc. This is for a family of 2 adults and 2 kids Thanks Nina cheers:) |
I budget about $50 per week for all groceries and household consumerables for one. [/QUOTE]
Brilliant idea! Forget the Zone, atkins diet, give weight watchers the elbow. Have you thought of contacting New Idea with the latest in diets? How much weight have you lost so far? |
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Originally posted by Ceri My cars are my own (100 per cent paid for) - I am renting at this current moment - $220 a week , morgage repayments - mine is going to be about than $100 a week ( we're having a very small loan - paying for our building of house in cash)- without doing a spreadsheet, I think we live on about 3 thousand a month, and that's a bit on the low side , insurance, utility bills, going out - probably more closer to $4000 I think I would honestly say we spend in total (but I'm not scrimping/Budgeting - we will buy "luxuries" and eat out etc) - I'm a bit too scared to actually work out all of our out goings - we definitely could live on less, like get rid of the cable tv, not eat out, not buy gadgets and things, not speak on the phone for so long to mum. Get rid of my cats. Yes, I would say total cost - everything included would be around 3 and half thou a month (it maybe 4 thou) for the two of us and two cats of course. cheers:) Nina |
Originally posted by dotty Brilliant idea! Forget the Zone, atkins diet, give weight watchers the elbow. Have you thought of contacting New Idea with the latest in diets? How much weight have you lost so far? |
Originally posted by Megalania I second that. City slickers eat too much rubbish foods, have been brain washed by the processed food companies. The home market has the second class products in the supermarkets , the meat is on a par with me shoe soles and the fresh fruit and veg is second rate. Sod it off to Hungery Jacks . :D :cool: :beer: |
Originally posted by pommie bastard Australia lives on junk food and exports anything worth eatiing to your masters the Japs . The home market has the second class products in the supermarkets , the meat is on a par with me shoe soles and the fresh fruit and veg is second rate. Sod it off to Hungery Jacks . :D :cool: :beer: |
Things must be tough out there - I've just seen a load of well-paid UK celebrities on TV living in the Australian rainforest and all they had to eat were the local insects.
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Originally posted by Houdini Things must be tough out there - I've just seen a load of well-paid UK celebrities on TV living in the Australian rainforest and all they had to eat were the local insects. What???...Ray Martin and Dick Smith eaten...Thank God for that...send more UK celebrities now...:eek: |
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Good thread, I would like to thank Kiwi Paul in particular for his articulate response to the original post, the likes of my partner and I who are due to come out to Brisbane in approx. 10 weeks the grocery price list was invaluable. My partner will be on about 50k and myself dunno! I have experience in the meat trade and hold a degree in food industry management, some sales experience and also do a bit of disc jockeying, so we will see what comes up! Clare is a Radiographer and has been sponsored by an agency. The thing is a standard of living is down to an individuals perception, the old adage "what youv'e never had youll never miss springs to mind". Some of the threads in my opinion have bordered on "scaremongering", if an individual is happy to merely be in Oz because of other reasons than money or career development, then good luck to them! Our careers are not the reason for our decision, Sun, Sea and Sand not available in Manchester! AVE IT!!!!! Gary & Clare |
Originally posted by garywarby Hi, Good thread, I would like to thank Kiwi Paul in particular for his articulate response to the original post, the likes of my partner and I who are due to come out to Brisbane in approx. 10 weeks the grocery price list was invaluable. |
Some of the threads in my opinion have bordered on "scaremongering", if an individual is happy to merely be in Oz because of other reasons than money or career development, then good luck to them! Our careers are not the reason for our decision, Sun, Sea and Sand not available in Manchester!
AVE IT!!!!! Gary & Clare [/QUOTE] Unfortunately sun, sea and sand is not edible. Australia may look cheap when converted into sterling, but less so when paid in dollars |
Originally posted by jayr Some of the threads in my opinion have bordered on "scaremongering", if an individual is happy to merely be in Oz because of other reasons than money or career development, then good luck to them! Our careers are not the reason for our decision, Sun, Sea and Sand not available in Manchester! AVE IT!!!!! Gary & Clare Unfortunately sun, sea and sand is not edible. Australia may look cheap when converted into sterling, but less so when paid in dollars [/QUOTE] Very deep and far to true , I have asked this before is Manchester now a goast town , nearly every other person I know is from Manchester and the rest from Liverpool. :D :cool: :beer: |
I've just seen a load of well-paid UK celebrities Celebrities ? second rate has beens. !! I have asked this before is Manchester now a goast town , nearly every other person I know is from Manchester and the rest from Liverpool |
Originally posted by karawara88 Celebrities ? second rate has beens. !! Manchester now full of "loft apartments" and Liverpool nothing left to pinch !! The metal shutter guys are working flatout with the home alarm fitters. :D :cool: :beer: |
Some of the poster here are trying to scare people who want accurate information about Australia with there own prejuices against Australia.
PB advised he spends $25 dollar on a take away. That would mean his typical meal is 4 big macs meals. I would then have to agree he couldn't live on $50 groceries a week, but how many average people each more than one fast food meal deal at a go let alone 4. JAYR advise to the origional poster DOUBLE IT. The origional poster I assume was obviously quoting a single salary as I would def agree $40,000 is too low for a combine salary for 2 people working. But to advise that you need $80,000 is totally inappropiate as I would guess that would put you in the top 5% to 10% of wage earners in Australia. BASICALLY if you want to make your fortune stick to the UK, if you want an incomparable lifestyle, of beaches , tropical islands, stunning scenery in a friendly, safe English speaking country try Oz or NZ. |
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I have no prejudices against Australia, I like it a lot, I am a realist. Your idea of a takeaway meal is not mine, a Big Mac may be taken away but is not a meal. I regularly (well weekly) spend $50 on a takeaway Indian for two, I happen to think that is pretty good value. Takeway Pizzas will cost $15 -$25 for two, excellent value. Chinese for two around $30. I have no wish to scare people about the costs of things in Oz. I would not however, like to bring up a family on $40k, though many have to. I would also not like to live on $50 of food and groceries a week, the starvation would not make up for the great environment you rightly describe. |
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Originally posted by Kiwipaul Some of the poster here are trying to scare people who want accurate information about Australia with there own prejuices against Australia. PB advised he spends $25 dollar on a take away. That would mean his typical meal is 4 big macs meals. I would then have to agree he couldn't live on $50 groceries a week, but how many average people each more than one fast food meal deal at a go let alone 4. JAYR advise to the origional poster DOUBLE IT. The origional poster I assume was obviously quoting a single salary as I would def agree $40,000 is too low for a combine salary for 2 people working. But to advise that you need $80,000 is totally inappropiate as I would guess that would put you in the top 5% to 10% of wage earners in Australia. BASICALLY if you want to make your fortune stick to the UK, if you want an incomparable lifestyle, of beaches , tropical islands, stunning scenery in a friendly, safe English speaking country try Oz or NZ. Never eat Big Macs or that kind of junk food but have a taste for a Chinese or an Indian and $25 for 2 is cheap ,I wish this Guy could explain to my good wife how to live on $50 per person per week. We earn over $100k between us and that only puts us in the top 20% according my bank manager. Forget the bollocks at the end of your Email never seen so many break-ins and tossers in my life as in Australia , the beaches are dull the only tropical island in WA is Rottnest its the pits. As for the brown dried out scenery around here you keep it , give me the UK or Europe anytime. Best view of rotten Island , $35 dollars each for the short ferry ride over then a landing fee , it used to be an Abo prison Island best use for it. :D :cool: :beer: |
Cost of living
My view from living in Sydney.
I got relocated by work and so earn equivalent to my UK salary which is very good by Aussie standards. My girlfriend also works and also earns a good salary. We have no kids/pets etc and we live in central Sydney. I say this to qualify my outlook. I think you need to earn the equivalent to your UK salary to maintain the same standard of living. General costs are a bit cheaper in Oz. Housing, basic foods, petrol, beer, eating out etc are cheaper. Most things imported - electricals, branded clothing, cars etc are more expensive. However, tax is significantly higher at all levels. Which means that when balancing cheaper living with higher taxation you will probably come out around equal. I know I am not representative of all on here but I think it is dangerous for people to think that maintaining the same standard of living in Oz is significantly cheaper than in he UK. It builds unrealistic expectations. Cheers, Bob |
Having been in Brissie about 6 weeks, I must agree with the people who are saying it is not as cheap as you will expect. we are in the process of buying a house and when I have worked out all the budgets for insurance, utilities food etc etc I will have about $400 a month spending money for everything! This is for a familiy of 4 and I earn a good wage and have a company car!
Child care costs are high (if you can get in) and I probably spend more on food in equivilant pounds than I did i the UK. BUT I love it and we are not here to make our fortune Peta |
Originally posted by petafray Having been in Brissie about 6 weeks, I must agree with the people who are saying it is not as cheap as you will expect. we are in the process of buying a house and when I have worked out all the budgets for insurance, utilities food etc etc I will have about $400 a month spending money for everything! This is for a familiy of 4 and I earn a good wage and have a company car! Child care costs are high (if you can get in) and I probably spend more on food in equivilant pounds than I did i the UK. BUT I love it and we are not here to make our fortune Peta Very down to earth and honest people require truth which is not always what some post on this site . There are many plus sides of living in Australia becoming wealthy is for most not one of them , we have been set back years by moving to Perth. I am far to jaded to get excited about living here but can understand those who have just arrived being wound up about the change in lifestyles . What seems cheap when you are paid in high value pounds will not work out that when living on rubber dollars, this is not a holiday no exchange rate will alter a wage packet. We all need to change our lifes now and again hope yours works out okay the first few years are time for rebuilding , good luck. :D :cool: :beer: |
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Well! what a hornet's nest! For people like us this particular thread has been excellent, we don't know where in Brisbane we will need to rent a place yet, or indeed in Brisbane at all. It all depends on where the agency gets Clare work, I'll just follow! I can understand PB's and Jayr's comments with regards of living expenses, however it must surely depend on the location within Brisbane. I would have thought that like any other city there, are extreme variances within the rental market for a 3 bedroom house. I think it is important to not look through the rose tinted specs, and i know that you can't eat sun,sea & sand! slightly pointing out the obvious!But at the end of the day the move is down to an individual and what they want out of it. It may sound shallow, but the weather for me is probably the most important reason for the move! the housing market has given us the chance, and of course Clare's specialist skills! so b******* to it, let's give it a go! We paid £12.80 for 4 bottles of beer in Manchester cit centre at the weekend and it was P****** down. Still Upbeat Gary&Clare! |
Originally posted by garywarby Hi, Well! what a hornet's nest! For people like us this particular thread has been excellent, we don't know where in Brisbane we will need to rent a place yet, or indeed in Brisbane at all. It all depends on where the agency gets Clare work, I'll just follow! I can understand PB's and Jayr's comments with regards of living expenses, however it must surely depend on the location within Brisbane. I would have thought that like any other city there, are extreme variances within the rental market for a 3 bedroom house. I think it is important to not look through the rose tinted specs, and i know that you can't eat sun,sea & sand! slightly pointing out the obvious!But at the end of the day the move is down to an individual and what they want out of it. It may sound shallow, but the weather for me is probably the most important reason for the move! the housing market has given us the chance, and of course Clare's specialist skills! so b******* to it, let's give it a go! We paid £12.80 for 4 bottles of beer in Manchester cit centre at the weekend and it was P****** down. Still Upbeat Gary&Clare! So to all the people currently in Oz offering advice, make it constructive and give the people on this fourm some credit, we're not all as thick and ignorant as you'd like to think we are. :cool: |
Gee Guys - what an eye opener.......
so I have worked out that we need a take home pay of say $4500 plus say deductions of 40% (=$6300 x 12) need to earn in region of $76K pa With no mortgage/rent to worry about and outright pay for cars - would this mean a life of luxury ??? seems that we will just be on par with lifestyle here minus the excellent weather??? We are looking at Canberra - is it any cheeper? (my god, I guess the replies will be "its dearer") A friend who started in sydney now in Brisbane said an excellent starter would be to earn the equivalent of UK """dream on..... a still not detered MaggieLou |
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Thank god there are other people out there who share my point of view! Houdini I salute you, however it makes it an even bigger deal when ankle biters are concerned! I can just about cover my own a**e, so I respect the decision you have made, and the bottle it must of took. But as somebody has already pointed out, the old "rocking chair" adage, when you are old and grey, you really don't want to be saying "what if"?For the record I am proud to be British and indeed a Manc, but it still p***** down 300 days a year! Regards Gary |
Go to
http://www.movingdownunder.co.uk/files/finance.php look for calculators and you will find a link for a cost of living calculator (think its on go maltilda) but the link will take you to it. Stick in what you earn in UK and it will tell you how much you need in Oz to maintain your current lifestyle, eg: I entered £30000 UK and it come back with £22000 for Perth roughly $56000 If you can earn twice what you earn in UK ie 15k to $30 you should be OK. Tax are higher, but by the time the idiot Blair has finish as PM you will be paying them here one way or another. |
The more bad habits you have the better off you will be here - 20 Marlboro around 2.70GBP, wine in the UK at 5.00GBP cost as little as 2.00GBP here and of course fuel at around 30p/litre.
I suggest for those who don't smoke and drink that you start now, you will then feel better off when you come here. |
Originally posted by jayr The more bad habits you have the better off you will be here - 20 Marlboro around 2.70GBP, wine in the UK at 5.00GBP cost as little as 2.00GBP here and of course fuel at around 30p/litre. I suggest for those who don't smoke and drink that you start now, you will then feel better off when you come here. |
Originally posted by jayr The more bad habits you have the better off you will be here - 20 Marlboro around 2.70GBP, wine in the UK at 5.00GBP cost as little as 2.00GBP here and of course fuel at around 30p/litre. I suggest for those who don't smoke and drink that you start now, you will then feel better off when you come here. If he can't aford to live in Brissy on a 40K wage (which I agree with) - why take up smoking? That's a bit like going to buy something at a sale where there's 25% off when you never intended to buy anything anyway. AndyH |
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