Australians by ancesty
Jun 5th 2006, 5:17 am
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Re: Australians by ancesty
Originally Posted by nickyc
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Those figures show Australians by ancestry. It's got nothing to do with numbers of permanent residents vs citizens. Someone whose great-great grandfather was British would have British ancestry - but that same person could also be a fifth-generation Australian. People with British ancestry could have had ancestors that arrived with the first fleet - or they could have flown in last week.
Considering that 25% of the population are supposedly immigrants or children of immigrants (and currently British migrants only make up around 10% of the whole) it shows that an awful lot the 36.5% of the population claiming British ancestry are looking back much further than two generations.
Those figures show Australians by ancestry. It's got nothing to do with numbers of permanent residents vs citizens. Someone whose great-great grandfather was British would have British ancestry - but that same person could also be a fifth-generation Australian. People with British ancestry could have had ancestors that arrived with the first fleet - or they could have flown in last week.
Considering that 25% of the population are supposedly immigrants or children of immigrants (and currently British migrants only make up around 10% of the whole) it shows that an awful lot the 36.5% of the population claiming British ancestry are looking back much further than two generations.
This file provides a closer look at the ancestry figures.
An example follows:
Ancestry: English
Both parents born in Australia: 3,676,348
Mother Australian-born/Father born overseas: 541,061
Father Australian-born/Mother born overseas: 374,790
Both parents born overseas: 364,594
Parent(s') birthplace not stated: 113,170
Total overseas born: 1,143,371
The results for people claiming Irish ancestry are similar, but with a lower percentage of parents born overseas:
Ancestry: Irish
Both parents born in Australia: 1,335,193
Mother Australian-born/Father born overseas: 145,001
Father Australian-born/Mother born overseas: 89,141
Both parents born overseas: 67,535
Parent(s) birthplace not stated: 30,955
Total overseas born: 212,179
Ancestry: Welsh
Both parents born in Australia: 29,686
Mother Australian-born/Father born overseas: 8,178
Father Australian-born/Mother born overseas: 4,789
Both parents born overseas: 7,850
Parent(s') birthplace not stated: 989
Total overseas born: 31,556
I fall into the category of people born with English ancestry; my father was English and England-born, while my mother is Australian and Australian-born, though her own father was English and England-born.
Last edited by Vash the Stampede; Jun 5th 2006 at 5:21 am.
Jun 5th 2006, 5:29 am
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Re: Australians by ancesty
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
For anyone who's interested, some interesting demographics data from the 2001 Census:
Total population: 21 million
Australian: 6.7m (38.7%)
English: 6.4m (36.5%)
Irish: 1.9m (11%)
Italian: 800,000 (4.6%)
German: 742,000 (4.3%)
Chinese: 557,000 (3.2%)
Scottish: 540,000 (3.1%)
Greek: 376,000 (2.2%)
Dutch: 269,000 (1.5%)
Lebanese: 162,000 (0.9%)
Indian: 157,000 (0.9%)
Vietnamese: 157,000 (0.9%)
Polish: 151,000 (0.9%)
Total population: 21 million
Australian: 6.7m (38.7%)
English: 6.4m (36.5%)
Irish: 1.9m (11%)
Italian: 800,000 (4.6%)
German: 742,000 (4.3%)
Chinese: 557,000 (3.2%)
Scottish: 540,000 (3.1%)
Greek: 376,000 (2.2%)
Dutch: 269,000 (1.5%)
Lebanese: 162,000 (0.9%)
Indian: 157,000 (0.9%)
Vietnamese: 157,000 (0.9%)
Polish: 151,000 (0.9%)
It could probably (with devlopment) take double the people it has now, and because it was discovered so late in the grand scheme of things, its never going to have a majority of natives, you could argue that there is no real natives of australia.
doesnt 38.7% make them a minority in their country anyway? it just makes them the mode right?
Jun 5th 2006, 5:54 am
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Re: Australians by ancesty
Originally Posted by Liamruscoe
Strictly speaking OZ is a new island that is still being colonised at a steady rate.
It could probably (with devlopment) take double the people it has now, and because it was discovered so late in the grand scheme of things, its never going to have a majority of natives, you could argue that there is no real natives of australia.
It could probably (with devlopment) take double the people it has now, and because it was discovered so late in the grand scheme of things, its never going to have a majority of natives, you could argue that there is no real natives of australia.
doesnt 38.7% make them a minority in their country anyway? it just makes them the mode right?
Jun 5th 2006, 10:46 pm
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Re: Australians by ancesty
Originally Posted by Hutch
And neither have you re: the 'United' Kingdom.
Yea, and why would that not be any different in Australia, Sherlock? Who's to say that a third generation English/Australian doesn't regard him/herself as Australian. Just because the time-frame is shorter, doesn't make it un-true.
Yea, and according to the UK census data, and my own experience of living in the UK for several decades, you would be hard-pushed to find any "cultural diversity" outside the major UK cities (including that crime-free nirvana you commute to from the melting pot that is Harpenden) - unless you count different types of white, anglo-saxon, indolent, feeble-minded, self-serving, pseudo-intellectual, NIMBYs.
Yea, and why would that not be any different in Australia, Sherlock? Who's to say that a third generation English/Australian doesn't regard him/herself as Australian. Just because the time-frame is shorter, doesn't make it un-true.
Yea, and according to the UK census data, and my own experience of living in the UK for several decades, you would be hard-pushed to find any "cultural diversity" outside the major UK cities (including that crime-free nirvana you commute to from the melting pot that is Harpenden) - unless you count different types of white, anglo-saxon, indolent, feeble-minded, self-serving, pseudo-intellectual, NIMBYs.
And that would be blatently misleading.
PS Time you put some suntan lotion on that neck of yours.
Jun 5th 2006, 10:53 pm
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Re: Australians by ancesty
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Well, there's the Aborigines!
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Jun 6th 2006, 12:55 am
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Re: Australians by ancesty
Originally Posted by MikeStanton
That would be blatently misleading.
Originally Posted by MikeStanton
Time you put some suntan lotion on...
