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Re: Australians by ancesty

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Originally Posted by nickyc

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Those figures show Australians by ancestry. It's got nothing to do with numbers of permanent residents vs citizens. Someone whose great-great grandfather was British would have British ancestry - but that same person could also be a fifth-generation Australian. People with British ancestry could have had ancestors that arrived with the first fleet - or they could have flown in last week.

Considering that 25% of the population are supposedly immigrants or children of immigrants (and currently British migrants only make up around 10% of the whole) it shows that an awful lot the 36.5% of the population claiming British ancestry are looking back much further than two generations.

Good point.

This file provides a closer look at the ancestry figures.

An example follows:

Ancestry: English

Both parents born in Australia: 3,676,348

Mother Australian-born/Father born overseas: 541,061

Father Australian-born/Mother born overseas: 374,790

Both parents born overseas: 364,594

Parent(s') birthplace not stated: 113,170

Total overseas born: 1,143,371

So although most of the people claiming English ancestry are the children of parents born in Australia, more than third of them were born to a parent (or parents) born overseas.

The results for people claiming Irish ancestry are similar, but with a lower percentage of parents born overseas:

Ancestry: Irish

Both parents born in Australia: 1,335,193

Mother Australian-born/Father born overseas: 145,001

Father Australian-born/Mother born overseas: 89,141

Both parents born overseas: 67,535

Parent(s) birthplace not stated: 30,955

Total overseas born: 212,179

For people claiming Welsh ancestry, the number of overseas parents was proportionately higher:

Ancestry: Welsh

Both parents born in Australia: 29,686

Mother Australian-born/Father born overseas: 8,178

Father Australian-born/Mother born overseas: 4,789

Both parents born overseas: 7,850

Parent(s') birthplace not stated: 989

Total overseas born: 31,556

For a full list of nationality by ancestry, click here. :)

I fall into the category of people born with English ancestry; my father was English and England-born, while my mother is Australian and Australian-born, though her own father was English and England-born. :cool:

Re: Australians by ancesty

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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

For anyone who's interested, some interesting demographics data from the 2001 Census:

Total population: 21 million

Australian: 6.7m (38.7%)

English: 6.4m (36.5%)

Irish: 1.9m (11%)

Italian: 800,000 (4.6%)

German: 742,000 (4.3%)

Chinese: 557,000 (3.2%)

Scottish: 540,000 (3.1%)

Greek: 376,000 (2.2%)

Dutch: 269,000 (1.5%)

Lebanese: 162,000 (0.9%)

Indian: 157,000 (0.9%)

Vietnamese: 157,000 (0.9%)

Polish: 151,000 (0.9%)

:cool:

Strictly speaking OZ is a new island that is still being colonised at a steady rate.

It could probably (with devlopment) take double the people it has now, and because it was discovered so late in the grand scheme of things, its never going to have a majority of natives, you could argue that there is no real natives of australia.

doesnt 38.7% make them a minority in their country anyway? it just makes them the mode right? ;)

Re: Australians by ancesty

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Originally Posted by Liamruscoe

Strictly speaking OZ is a new island that is still being colonised at a steady rate.

It could probably (with devlopment) take double the people it has now, and because it was discovered so late in the grand scheme of things, its never going to have a majority of natives, you could argue that there is no real natives of australia.

Well, there's the Aborigines! :confused:

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doesnt 38.7% make them a minority in their country anyway? it just makes them the mode right? ;)

38.7% is only a minority if it can be shown that Australia contains a different ethnic group of larger proportions. :)

Re: Australians by ancesty

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Originally Posted by Hutch

And neither have you re: the 'United' Kingdom.

Yea, and why would that not be any different in Australia, Sherlock? Who's to say that a third generation English/Australian doesn't regard him/herself as Australian. Just because the time-frame is shorter, doesn't make it un-true.

Yea, and according to the UK census data, and my own experience of living in the UK for several decades, you would be hard-pushed to find any "cultural diversity" outside the major UK cities (including that crime-free nirvana you commute to from the melting pot that is Harpenden) - unless you count different types of white, anglo-saxon, indolent, feeble-minded, self-serving, pseudo-intellectual, NIMBYs.

I would say that you've missed the point. However, that implies you sometimes hit it.

And that would be blatently misleading.

PS Time you put some suntan lotion on that neck of yours.

Re: Australians by ancesty

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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

Well, there's the Aborigines! :confused:
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Didn't they displace The Bradshaws?

Re: Australians by ancesty

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Originally Posted by MikeStanton

That would be blatently misleading.

Come come, don't break the habit of a lifetime.

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Originally Posted by MikeStanton

Time you put some suntan lotion on...

Yea it is a bit sunny isn't it - could almost be the week-long period laughably referred to as 'summer' in this country. Thanks for your concern though.