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BadgeIsBack Feb 26th 2007 3:17 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by renth (Post 4454963)
FFS, don't let the truth get in the way of the Anzac legend.

Joking aside, the reality that all present did what they could.

Churchill's idea - military men from all nations stuffed up and were killed.

Personally, I still don't think that detracts from an ANZAC 'story'.

MD09 Feb 26th 2007 3:18 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 4455006)
any lengths to take a dig at the english

Just keep your greedy mits to yourselves.

My scottish grandmother died a very unhappy lady with the english occupation of the country she loved.

northernbird Feb 26th 2007 3:20 am

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Originally Posted by MD09 (Post 4455013)
Just keep your greedy mits to yourselves.

My scottish grandmother died a very unhappy lady with the english occupation of the country she loved.

grow up.

MD09 Feb 26th 2007 3:20 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 4455012)
Joking aside, the reality that all present did what they could.

Churchill's idea - military men from all nations stuffed up and were killed.

Personally, I still don't think that detracts from an ANZAC 'story'.

I agree, we were all on the same side at the end of the day.

Our lives were seen as lesser, still are by many, but that just makes us stronger imo.

MD09 Feb 26th 2007 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 4455016)
grow up.

oh dear, I think I've just been told "primary school" style.

:eek: :rofl:

chels Feb 26th 2007 3:21 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by MD09 (Post 4455013)
Just keep your greedy mits to yourselves.

My scottish grandmother died a very unhappy lady with the english occupation of the country she loved.

What's that then, Australia? :rofl:

northernbird Feb 26th 2007 3:24 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by MD09 (Post 4455019)
oh dear, I think I've just been told "primary school" style.

:eek: :rofl:

its a style you have proved recently to be quite used to.

BadgeIsBack Feb 26th 2007 3:26 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by MD09 (Post 4455017)
I agree, we were all on the same side at the end of the day.

Our lives were seen as lesser, still are by many, but that just makes us stronger imo.

I'd be interested to see that confirmed. I'm not a staff officer from the time. Must read a book written by an English historian. But that would be his observation, need to talk to a British staff officer/ops/planner at the time(!)

Sometimes hard jobs are given to hard men(!?) Consider that.

Australia has nothing like the battle honours of the British Army- so the WW1 actions like Gallipoli would run deep in the military and society conscious.

MD09 Feb 26th 2007 3:27 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by chels (Post 4455020)
What's that then, Australia? :rofl:

Last I looked the english needed a VISA to come to oz. woot

The scottish live for that day too. One day it will come.

Amazulu Feb 26th 2007 3:28 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 
The British Army's 29th Division were the first to land on 25th April. They suffered massive casualties, up to 70% in parts and 12 VC's were awarded.
ANZAC landed later, further north and also suffered massive casualties.

There were high casualties amongst all the Allied forces. ANZAC were not sacrificed ahead of the British and it does not matter anyway. They were all victims of bad planning and tactics and stubborn enemy resistance.

Womat Feb 26th 2007 3:29 am

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Most observers believe ANZAC day has become Australia's most important national day and as each year passes the sentiment and support continues to grow.

It is a very important day in Australia.


Often each country has their 'own' version of history, if you speak to an American, Englishman or Australian about what occured during WWII it would probably yield some startling differences, sometimes the truth may lay somewhere inbetween.

MD09 Feb 26th 2007 3:30 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 4455024)
its a style you have proved recently to be quite used to.

You seem quite comfortable at that level.

MD09 Feb 26th 2007 3:32 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 4455036)
The British Army's 29th Division were the first to land on 25th April. They suffered massive casualties, up to 70% in parts and 12 VC's were awarded.
ANZAC landed later, further north and also suffered massive casualties.

There were high casualties amongst all the Allied forces. ANZAC were not sacrificed ahead of the British and it does not matter anyway. They were all victims of bad planning and tactics and stubborn enemy resistance.

The ANZACs were sent to fight, with the english knowing we were lambs being sent to the slaughter.

BadgeIsBack Feb 26th 2007 3:32 am

Re: Australian 'Holiday Days'...........
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 4455036)
The British Army's 29th Division were the first to land on 25th April. They suffered massive casualties, up to 70% in parts and 12 VC's were awarded.
ANZAC landed later, further north and also suffered massive casualties.

There were high casualties amongst all the Allied forces. ANZAC were not sacrificed ahead of the British and it does not matter anyway. They were all victims of bad planning and tactics and stubborn enemy resistance.

One day I'm going to get around to reading the history.

MD09 Feb 26th 2007 3:33 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 4455045)
I am, have spent too long around these parts listening to your drivel.

haven't you got a husband or long term unemployed case worker to go argue with..


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