Australian Exodus
#16
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by Grayling
The biggest change in migration trends in recent years has been a huge increase in the number of Australians migrating to the UK on a permanent basis:
http://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news514.html
Eatstatic has a point here.
G
http://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news514.html
Eatstatic has a point here.
G
If you are, I bet you know one of my cousins.
#17
Australia's Doorman
Joined: Jan 2005
Location: The Shoalhaven, New South Wales, Australia
Posts: 11,056
Re: Australian Exodus
Christ, the albatross is back.
After all, life's soooooooooooooooooooooo much rosier in the UK, isn't it.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/43821.html
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news...a4f5af4ff9.lpf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4070112.stm
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=7000
http://www.management-issues.com/dis...search&id=2344
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...29/ixhome.html
http://www.politics.co.uk/press-releases/public-and-commercial-services-union-prison-service-loses-appeal-against-2504-equal-pay-cases-$15013346.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...28/ixhome.html
http://www.menshealth.co.uk/news/story.phtml?id=2064
etc etc etc ...
Two minutes with Google and I can produce way more horror stories about this country. And that's two minutes of my life that you've stolen from me because you're such an anal, unrelentingly dingy no-life.
After all, life's soooooooooooooooooooooo much rosier in the UK, isn't it.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/43821.html
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news...a4f5af4ff9.lpf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4070112.stm
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=7000
http://www.management-issues.com/dis...search&id=2344
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...29/ixhome.html
http://www.politics.co.uk/press-releases/public-and-commercial-services-union-prison-service-loses-appeal-against-2504-equal-pay-cases-$15013346.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...28/ixhome.html
http://www.menshealth.co.uk/news/story.phtml?id=2064
etc etc etc ...
Two minutes with Google and I can produce way more horror stories about this country. And that's two minutes of my life that you've stolen from me because you're such an anal, unrelentingly dingy no-life.
#18
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by eatstatic
The fact that pensioners are living longer, combined with a falling birth rate is a problem affecting all Western countries, as their is not enough cash to carry on the way we are now. It wont be long before little shit Johnny H comes up with some similar (or worse) scheme.
At least the UK state pension is not means tested, unlike in Oz, did you know that before you posted that link?
At least the UK state pension is not means tested, unlike in Oz, did you know that before you posted that link?
Yes I did, and I totally agree with what you say. It's a predicament for both the UK and Aus - IMO it's a time bomb ticking away that needs to be resolved before it's too late. But what to do? Hell, I don't know. All I can tell you is that I’m working my socks off working every hour god sends to earn some sterling before emigrating to Aus to be with family. I know that I will be OK financially as I have done extensive research into the job market/prospects/earnings of my profession and looking into cost of living/taxes/medicare bills etc. That doesn't mean to say I don't worry about what the future holds, I do, but everyone has there own reasons for emigrating. Mine are for personal rather than financial reasons, and it's good job as well, ain't it! Phew, someone fetch me a beer
#19
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,360
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by JAllen
Mine are for personal rather than financial reasons, and it's good job as well, ain't it! Phew, someone fetch me a beer
Hopefully we'll be in a similar position in Oz as we wont have much mortgage due to the equity in our house BUT even if we had £10 in our pockets we'd still go as sometimes there's just more to life than money....
#20
Bitter and twisted
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Upmarket
Posts: 17,503
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
You anywhere near Bonsal grayling, I thought of you when i was there
If you are, I bet you know one of my cousins.
If you are, I bet you know one of my cousins.
I wish I had known when you were over.
Did you visit?
G
#21
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by bridiej
Same here, we would be really well off if we stayed in the Uk, Malc would become an electrician and rake in the cash, we could pay our £50K mortgage off and be mortgage free, have a couple of kids etc.
Hopefully we'll be in a similar position in Oz as we wont have much mortgage due to the equity in our house BUT even if we had £10 in our pockets we'd still go as sometimes there's just more to life than money....
Hopefully we'll be in a similar position in Oz as we wont have much mortgage due to the equity in our house BUT even if we had £10 in our pockets we'd still go as sometimes there's just more to life than money....
Then again thats 18 years on from now and who knows what the state of the UK or indeed Australia will be. Again - they get to choose. Lucky them!
#22
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by eatstatic
It seems that Australia is not for a lot of its young adults, particulary men. If any of the wannabee ex pats are still deluded enough to believe that Oz will give their offspring more choice then think again.
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
Then there's this:
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/for...howtopic=12956
Which kinda makes a mess of your argument.
#23
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by eatstatic
It seems that Australia is not for a lot of its young adults, particulary men. If any of the wannabee ex pats are still deluded enough to believe that Oz will give their offspring more choice then think again.
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
Rachel
#24
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Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,432
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by eatstatic
It seems that Australia is not for a lot of its young adults, particulary men. If any of the wannabee ex pats are still deluded enough to believe that Oz will give their offspring more choice then think again.
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
"NEWS Corporation deputy chief operating officer Lachlan Murdoch has resigned his position as one of the world's most powerful media executives and will move from New York to Australia.
...
'I look forward to returning home to Australia with my wife, Sarah, and son, Kalan, in the very near future.'"
Lachlan Murdoch quits
#25
Forum Regular
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 196
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by eatstatic
It seems that Australia is not for a lot of its young adults, particulary men. If any of the wannabee ex pats are still deluded enough to believe that Oz will give their offspring more choice then think again.
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
Speaking from experience of trying twice to return to the UK to live and having to return to Aus. to make a decent living to bring up my kids, trades people, engineering people, and all sorts of other skilled people are doing very well here.
I love England, but the quality of life in return for your labour is streets ahead here.
#26
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by Soi Oz
So how do you explain all the happy people here then? Besides, young Aussies have been going to Europe and the US to further their careers for decades, me included. Most of them come back.
Then there's this:
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/for...howtopic=12956
Which kinda makes a mess of your argument.
Then there's this:
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/for...howtopic=12956
Which kinda makes a mess of your argument.
#27
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Re: Australian Exodus
What about Lachlan Murdochs decision to leave New York and return home to Sydney to live and to bring up his family even though it means giving up his chance of controling the Newscorp Empire. With his money he could live anywhere in the world but thinks OZ is the best place to live. Explain that one Eatstatic.
Last edited by aussie73; Jul 31st 2005 at 7:47 pm.
#28
Re: Australian Exodus
I was at a family BBQ on Saturday at which 2 young Aussies were present. They are here for a few years to rake in the cash, they like the UK as a base to tour Europe but they have no doubts they will return to Australia in the next year or two for quality of life. That says it all for me.
#29
Member of Mumo-land
Joined: Oct 2003
Location: DownUnder
Posts: 771
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by eatstatic
It seems that Australia is not for a lot of its young adults, particulary men. If any of the wannabee ex pats are still deluded enough to believe that Oz will give their offspring more choice then think again.
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
Any aussies with decent skills are voting with their feet against Australia's low wages and long hours. It therefore seems a strong possibility that your kids, when of working age will hot foot it back to blighty in order to get a decent reward for their skills.
At this rate all Oz will have left behind will be the minimum wage manual workers. Still it seems there are plenty of Poms with a willingness to move to the land of low pay and years of "casual" employment, maybe they will take up the slack?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/050726/2/v8n0.html
#30
Re: Australian Exodus
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Another fact, workers in Aussie definetly get more leisure time.
Over the past three weeks I have not left work once before 10.30pm. My husband works similarly insane hours - we barely see each other during the week and usually bring work home over the weekend as well.
We earn good money but our quality of life is debatable.