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Old Mar 21st 2007, 9:09 pm
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Just reading "Wherever Green is worn"

A book about the Irish Diaspora by Tim Pat Coogan.

there is an interesting quote by Al Grassby (the first Australian commissioner for community relations) who states:

"Australia is the most Irish country outside Ireland with one quarter of all Australians having an Irish connection, just pipping the United states by a half-percent"

Other estimates put the figure as high as 40%.

The concluding quote is that: "the Irish had Australia 'sewn up'"

I knew that a lot of Australians had Irish ancestry...I was not aware it was that many.

You live and learn.

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Old Mar 21st 2007, 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Grayling
Just reading "Wherever Green is worn"

A book about the Irish Diaspora by Tim Pat Coogan.

there is an interesting quote by Al Grassby (the first Australian commissioner for community relations) who states:

"Australia is the most Irish country outside Ireland with one quarter of all Australians having an Irish connection, just pipping the United states by a half-percent"

Other estimates put the figure as high as 40%.

The concluding quote is that: "the Irish had Australia 'sewn up'"

I knew that a lot of Australians had Irish ancestry...I was not aware it was that many.

You live and learn.

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Official figure is 30%, which is hardly surprising when you consider the number of Irish people who were sent over as convicts (50,000 by most estimates) or arrived later as free settlers during the 19th Centyry.

Australia also has the highest Greek population outside Greece; 50% of Greek speakers in Australia were born there.
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Old Mar 21st 2007, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

Australia also has the highest Greek population outside Greece; 50% of Greek speakers in Australia were born there.
Melbourne was once considered the second biggest Greek city in the world.....only Athens had a larger population of Greeks.

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Default Re: Australia - The Irish connection.

Originally Posted by Grayling
Just reading "Wherever Green is worn"

A book about the Irish Diaspora by Tim Pat Coogan.

there is an interesting quote by Al Grassby (the first Australian commissioner for community relations) who states:

"Australia is the most Irish country outside Ireland with one quarter of all Australians having an Irish connection, just pipping the United states by a half-percent"

Other estimates put the figure as high as 40%.

The concluding quote is that: "the Irish had Australia 'sewn up'"

I knew that a lot of Australians had Irish ancestry...I was not aware it was that many.

You live and learn.

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Excellent book by an excellent author!!!!

I want to be wan of those Irish in Australia if all works out!!!
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Melbourne was once considered the second biggest Greek city in the world.....only Athens had a larger population of Greeks.

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Is it still not???? i HEARD THAT IS STILL WAS RECENTLY!!!
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Is it still not???? i HEARD THAT IS STILL WAS RECENTLY!!!
Maybe it still is....I am not sure.

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Melbourne was once considered the second biggest Greek city in the world.....only Athens had a larger population of Greeks.

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That doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

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What percentage of Australians have an English connection?

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Makes me a walking cliche then - Aussie/English dad and an Irish mum
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Makes me a walking cliche then - Aussie/English dad and an Irish mum

My father was Irish and my mother English.

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My Mum and Dad are Irish.Dad is gone but Mum has moved over to Derry from London.She is making the long trip over here for Easter.
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Official figure is 30%, which is hardly surprising when you consider the number of Irish people who were sent over as convicts (50,000 by most estimates) or arrived later as free settlers during the 19th Centyry.

Australia also has the highest Greek population outside Greece; 50% of Greek speakers in Australia were born there.
Thought only English (poms) came over on the boats! Shame us Irish were excluded from such an endearing term!
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Default Re: Australia - The Irish connection.

The Irish connection is a bit of a myth-English ancestry is far, far more dominant.
Its an anti-English thing to play up the Irish descent.
Australia isnt all that Irish.
The basis of the myth is that many Irish arrived in the early 19th century-which is correct. however most "Aussies" are in fact descended from English folk who arrived from the late 19th century up until the 50's

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Originally Posted by Hippy-Dippy
The irish connection is a bit of a myth-English ancestry is far, far more dominant.
Its an anti-English thing to play uop the irish descent.
Huh

Anyway, no wonder I feel so at home here....
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Originally Posted by JohnandMichelle
Huh
I think the point is that a lot of aussies like to downplay their British connections. Making out that they are descended from the Irish allows them to do that.

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