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Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...p?story=355086
Sydney – Start with a question: which of the large developed economies seems to be growing fastest through this global downturn? The answer is Australia. It is followed by Canada, the US and the UK. This leads to another question: why is it that English-speaking countries seem to be pulling clear of the pack? The latter question is enormously important, for if the English-speaking world has a real lead on the rest, then this will have a profound impact on economic policy – and power – in the coming years. If, on the other hand, we have been deluding ourselves by living on borrowed money and time, then we are in for some nasty surprises. A brief visit to Australia has suggested to me some admittedly tentative answers. The Aussie story is fascinating because of the parallels with other anglophone countries. As in the US and UK, demand has been supported by consumers, whose enthusiasm has in turn been supported by a strong housing market. However, unlike the US and UK – but like Canada – Australia has also benefited economically from a relatively weak currency. Like Canada, it feels to the visitor very good value. Unsurprisingly, Sydney is full of Japanese tourists. The sheer physical oomph of the place – at a price which is roughly half that of Tokyo – is a powerful draw. But the big source of demand is domestic and supported by house prices. As a whole, house prices are up 17 per cent year-on-year, with hotspots like Sydney and Brisbane up by 23 per cent and 26 per cent respectively. This pattern is very similar to the UK. The Australian Prudential Regulation Authority, fearful that the bubble might get out of control, recently asked building societies to review their lending practices and reminded banks that they should be conservative in their risk management. Still, despite the potential impact of a house price crash, forecasts for growth next year remain pretty good, with business investment and exports taking over from any slackening of domestic consumption. The new OECD projections for both this year and next are shown in the left-hand graph above. Not only is Australia on top this year but it is also expected to be top next year, actually improving a bit. The Australian government thinks these figures are too good and is projecting growth of about 3 per cent for 2002/3. It has warned that the OECD has not made sufficient allowance for damage caused by the current drought. Meanwhile Brian Redican, senior economist at Macquarie Bank, expects growth of 2.75 per cent. But even that would be extremely good by world standards. People here fret about the global downturn, and some industries, such as tourism, are suffering. In relative terms, though, the country is performing exceptionally well. So what is Australia doing right? I think the general answer is that, like the other anglophone economies, it has the anchor of consumers who like living well, economic governance that is prepared to allow such demand to show through in a current account deficit, and policies that attract inward investment to cover that deficit. In the case of Australia, the current account deficit is 3 per cent of GDP, which compares with some 4 per cent in the US and 2 per cent in the UK. A current account deficit is the inevitable counterpart of a capital account surplus. That inflow of capital increases the potential growth rate, which in the case of Australia is probably more than 3 per cent a year. So a virtuous circle is secured. There is a further factor here: Australia, like the US, is a country of immigrants. The latest UN projections for population growth in a selected group of countries are shown in the second graph. Australia is expected more or less to match the US, adding nearly 40 per cent to its population over the next half century. (You can see why it is concerned about uncontrolled immigration, by the way, by noting the projection for nearby Indonesia.) Countries that increase their population will inevitably grow faster because an expanding population requires investment in housing and the infrastructure to cope with this. Such growth does not necessarily show in rising income per head. Australia has slipped down the wealth league, from being one of the two or three richest countries in the world a century ago to being, on paper if not in reality, poorer than the UK now. But growth does allow countries to make mistakes and keep moving forward. Built too many houses? OK, wait a bit and a growing population will mop them up. Over-invested in infrastructure? Ditto. There is a cushion here that countries that will lose population – like Germany, Italy and Japan – do not have. This leads to a more general point. It is hard to pin down but there is an openness, an acceptance of change, an acceptance indeed of migration, that characterises the English-speaking world and seems to give it some sort of buffer against hard times. You catch this self-confidence in Australia at the moment. It has, sadly, been savaged by the blow of the Bali bombings, the effect of which continues to reverberate here. But there is a feeling that things will be all right in the end that is also evident in North America and, to a certain extent, in the UK. It would be silly not to admit that there is a danger here. The relative economic success of the English-speaking world is sustained by current account deficits and personal borrowings. Neither form of borrowing can be sustained for ever. But it is hard not to look at those growth figures and acknowledge that we are all lucky – and Australians especially so |
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Re: Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
Yeah and the burgers are better too (at Hungry Jacks)!! - this is several months old so they may have gone off
Big MacCurrencies Devised 16 years ago as a light-hearted guide to whether currencies are at their “correct� level, the index is based on the theory of purchasing-power parity (PPP). In the long run, countries' exchange rates should move towards rates that would equalise the prices of an identical basket of goods and services. Our basket is a McDonald's Big Mac, produced in 120 countries. The Big Mac PPP is the exchange rate that would leave hamburgers costing the same in America as elsewhere. Comparing these with actual rates signals if a currency is under- or overvalued. …. The Australian dollar is the most undervalued rich-world currency, 35% below McParity. No wonder the Australian economy was so strong last year.. Source: The Economist. London DPR |
Re: Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
Originally posted by pleasancefamily http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...p?story=355086 Sydney – Start with a question: which of the large developed economies seems to be growing fastest through this global downturn? The answer is Australia. It is followed by Canada, the US and the UK. This leads to another question: why is it that English-speaking countries seem to be pulling clear of the pack? By the way last time I read bull like that it was about Argentina , what ever happened to them? TWO employees of a liquor store in Perth's northern suburbs were shot on Saturday night in a botched armed robbery. The pair were shaken and received minor lacerations to their heads and arms after trying to tackle two robbers who entered the store demanding cash. POLICE scuffled in the street with bikies who were thrown out of a Belmont nightclub early yesterday. A dozen officers went to Studio 7 after reports that members of the Club Deroes were causing trouble at the Belmont Avenue club. Bikies and police squared up to each other during the confrontation, which forced management to close the nightspot several hours earlier than usual. AUSTRALIA should slash its immigration intake by about one third because Sydney could not cope with the population spurt, NSW Premier Bob Carr has said. Mr Carr said 75 per cent of Sydney's total population increase was generated by migration as the bulk of new arrivals settled in the nation's biggest city. The federal government increased the overall immigration intake from 93,000 to 110,000 people in May this year. Mr Carr said that meant Sydney had to find homes for 40,000 more people each year - an increase of 3,000. Sydney was becoming less hospitable in terms of rising property prices, urban sprawl and higher density housing, Mr Carr said. "We all want a bigger proportion of the migrant intake to settle in regional Australia - in Hobart, in Adelaide and in regional centres," Mr Carr told reporters. "The pressure on Sydney is too great. "Now that is fuelling the pressure on housing in Sydney. "I would like to see a national intake of about 80,000." NSW is working with the federal government on a taskforce to divert new arrivals to regional centres but Mr Carr said "the policy options there aren't that brilliant, aren't that effective". He said people were attracted to Sydney's economic and cultural diversity. "If you increase the intake, if you force-feed population growth into the Sydney basin the city goes up, or the city goes out or a combination of the two," he said. "We don't want to end up with the density of Brooklyn, we don't want to end up with the sprawl of Los Angeles." |
Re: Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
Poorer nations are always the fastest growing economies in the World (they've got more room to improve).. China is The worlds fastest, followed by a few of the other Asian countries. It does not surprise me that Australia is the fastest in the Western developed countries.
Cheers:) |
A fact overlooked by those who not lived here a long time is this.
Most economic cycles good and bad reach Australia after the rest of the world. I have seen it happen time and time again. What happens overseas generally eventually gets here. Plus in a Country as small as Aus (small in economic terms), something like the current drought will have a more drastic effect than on say the US which has more diverse economies. Just like the fact we will eventually get the products and services available in Europe and the US we will eventually get the problems. I think one just kicking in is Terrorism. If its great here now you can bet your booty it was good in the UK or US two or three years ago. |
Uh oh - the three *greatest* experts on Australia have spoken!
Right you lot listen up... All those trying to go to Australia - give up now and go back to your great lives in the UK All those POMS(and welsh, scots, irish, etc) - what do you think you're playing at eh? Open you eyes, pack-up and leave now! |
Cheers madmancunian,
I'm putting a stop to my application asap - don't want to end up in a dead-end place like Oz, what with all those liquor store hold-ups and drive-by eggings. I'm staying put in this cottonwool environment where kids can skip to school without a care in the world and little old ladies can invite the "gas man" in without asking for ID. Thank God the liquor section of Tesco is surrounded by cat food and baby products - enough to put off any would-be thieves. |
Re: Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
Originally posted by Ceri Poorer nations are always the fastest growing economies in the World (they've got more room to improve).. China is The worlds fastest, followed by a few of the other Asian countries. It does not surprise me that Australia is the fastest in the Western developed countries. Cheers:) The Economist. London (Nov 8-15th 2002) DPR |
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Originally posted by dpr21 No it's not - Turkey currently is. However that's probably a moot point so perhaps you can explain why, in the developed world, after Australia, the US and Canada had the highest GDP growth in the past 12 months? The Economist. London (Nov 8-15th 2002) DPR Well it was China, and it has been China for years, if it's Turkey.. that's recent. Well Canada isn't rich either, and USA and Britain will always grow to a point... so many foreign investments and companies... like we have in Australia! The Uk is no1 investor here, followed by the USA. The USA is no 1 investor in Singapore, followed by Britain... if these countries grow.. it's bound to knock up ours (these are just a couple of countries.. a drop in the ocean) Poor nations are always "the fastest growing economies in the world" .. and will be on the top of the ladder (first) for that reason. Next you'll be saying Australia is rich! Come on, it has not got a quarter of the money that the Uk has lol. Australia has no money to even spend on her defence force. They buy second hand weaponry off Britain... and are completely ill equipped! Have you forgotten the noisy sub they bought .. lol! .. tried to cut costs, went with a cheap firm , Switzerland I think... totally cocked it up! . Gulf war.. one supply ship in international waters... no weaponry you see.. poor! Fires last year.. Australia had to get Elvis over from the US, why have they not got a few of these themselves? .. Australia should be very well equipped for fighting fires, they should be leading the world in that respect.. but they are not equipped properly... what about the radios, which was one of the reasons for the deaths of some firemen last year... lost communication.. cheap radios! The police had good ones , but the firemen didn't.. . When Japan crashed... it had a huge effect on Australia, the Aussie dollar went down heaps... do you know it did not effect UK, hardly touched her. Australia does rely on farming too much, where the UK and Germany it's engineering, and foreign investments. The Aussie economy is not stable, it's not strong .. Australia is a very poor cousin to the UK and the US.. and basically the term " fastest growing econemy" is dim gwerth rhech dafad! (not worth a fart) sounds better in Welsh :D Cheers :rolleyes: |
Re: Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
Originally posted by dpr21 No it's not - Turkey currently is. However that's probably a moot point so perhaps you can explain why, in the developed world, after Australia, the US and Canada had the highest GDP growth in the past 12 months? The Economist. London (Nov 8-15th 2002) DPR The same worthless crap that is being said about Australia was not long ago being said about Agentina and what happened now? This country is run along the same lines , all it needs is a dictator , sorry it has one step forward little Johnny. From 1990 through 1997 Argentina's economy grew by almost 51 percent in constant terms. In 1997, GDP growth ran at a very positive 8.1 percent in real terms, Growth in industrial production was 6.5 percent for the year 1996. Throughout the late '80s and early '90s Argentina ran a substantial, though artificial, trade surplus. :cool: :beer: :D |
Re: Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
Originally posted by Ceri Oh Gawd... it's you again! :rolleyes: : "Please Explain" you're not related to P Hanson are you? Well it was China, and it has been China for years, if it's Turkey.. that's recent. |
Re: Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
Originally posted by pleasancefamily http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...p?story=355086 Sydney – Start with a question: which of the large developed economies seems to be growing fastest through this global downturn? The answer is Australia. It is followed by Canada, the US and the UK. This leads to another question: why is it that English-speaking countries seem to be pulling clear of the pack? The latter question is enormously important, for if the English-speaking world has a real lead on the rest, then this will have a profound impact on economic policy – and power – in the coming years. If, on the other hand, we have been deluding ourselves by living on borrowed money and time, then we are in for some nasty surprises. A brief visit to Australia has suggested to me some admittedly tentative answers. The Aussie story is fascinating because of the parallels with other anglophone countries. As in the US and UK, demand has been supported by consumers, whose enthusiasm has in turn been supported by a strong housing market. However, unlike the US and UK – but like Canada – Australia has also benefited economically from a relatively weak currency. Like Canada, it feels to the visitor very good value. Unsurprisingly, Sydney is full of Japanese tourists. The sheer physical oomph of the place – at a price which is roughly half that of Tokyo – is a powerful draw. But the big source of demand is domestic and supported by house prices. As a whole, house prices are up 17 per cent year-on-year, with hotspots like Sydney and Brisbane up by 23 per cent and 26 per cent respectively. This pattern is very similar to the UK. The Australian Prudential Regulation Authority, fearful that the bubble might get out of control, recently asked building societies to review their lending practices and reminded banks that they should be conservative in their risk management. Still, despite the potential impact of a house price crash, forecasts for growth next year remain pretty good, with business investment and exports taking over from any slackening of domestic consumption. The new OECD projections for both this year and next are shown in the left-hand graph above. Not only is Australia on top this year but it is also expected to be top next year, actually improving a bit. The Australian government thinks these figures are too good and is projecting growth of about 3 per cent for 2002/3. It has warned that the OECD has not made sufficient allowance for damage caused by the current drought. Meanwhile Brian Redican, senior economist at Macquarie Bank, expects growth of 2.75 per cent. But even that would be extremely good by world standards. People here fret about the global downturn, and some industries, such as tourism, are suffering. In relative terms, though, the country is performing exceptionally well. So what is Australia doing right? I think the general answer is that, like the other anglophone economies, it has the anchor of consumers who like living well, economic governance that is prepared to allow such demand to show through in a current account deficit, and policies that attract inward investment to cover that deficit. In the case of Australia, the current account deficit is 3 per cent of GDP, which compares with some 4 per cent in the US and 2 per cent in the UK. A current account deficit is the inevitable counterpart of a capital account surplus. That inflow of capital increases the potential growth rate, which in the case of Australia is probably more than 3 per cent a year. So a virtuous circle is secured. There is a further factor here: Australia, like the US, is a country of immigrants. The latest UN projections for population growth in a selected group of countries are shown in the second graph. Australia is expected more or less to match the US, adding nearly 40 per cent to its population over the next half century. (You can see why it is concerned about uncontrolled immigration, by the way, by noting the projection for nearby Indonesia.) Countries that increase their population will inevitably grow faster because an expanding population requires investment in housing and the infrastructure to cope with this. Such growth does not necessarily show in rising income per head. Australia has slipped down the wealth league, from being one of the two or three richest countries in the world a century ago to being, on paper if not in reality, poorer than the UK now. But growth does allow countries to make mistakes and keep moving forward. Built too many houses? OK, wait a bit and a growing population will mop them up. Over-invested in infrastructure? Ditto. There is a cushion here that countries that will lose population – like Germany, Italy and Japan – do not have. This leads to a more general point. It is hard to pin down but there is an openness, an acceptance of change, an acceptance indeed of migration, that characterises the English-speaking world and seems to give it some sort of buffer against hard times. You catch this self-confidence in Australia at the moment. It has, sadly, been savaged by the blow of the Bali bombings, the effect of which continues to reverberate here. But there is a feeling that things will be all right in the end that is also evident in North America and, to a certain extent, in the UK. It would be silly not to admit that there is a danger here. The relative economic success of the English-speaking world is sustained by current account deficits and personal borrowings. Neither form of borrowing can be sustained for ever. But it is hard not to look at those growth figures and acknowledge that we are all lucky – and Australians especially so |
We-ell... if PB has pronounced the Queensland economy to be third world it *must* be true.
Scratching a living?????? Get real. I've not seen any live-aid concerts set-up to help the poor people of Queensland who are only making the "odd buck here and there". Maybe someone out to point this out to Sir Bob (G*ldhof) so that he can setup a concert right away. And I've not hearing anyone applying to go and live in Ethopia to have a better standard of living. Jeez I'm learning so much from this forum. Better rush out and buy a hoe to practice scratching a living from the sun-parched Queensland soil. I think I'm ready for anything now. |
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Originally posted by dpr21 Why don't you keep to the 'facts' or some relatively 'reliable' or at least vaguely impartial source to make your points? I'm sure you can find something 'published' to refute my point(s) rather than your own subjective, emotive and in most cases spurious personal views. It is not China, and no I'm not related to Hanson - and anyway what relevance would it have to this particular discussion? You are totally wrong on your so called facts, and it is obvious you know very little about it. If you had checked your information from the right data collection source..and not a newspaper.. You'd find Turkey is classed as a Western country for the figures sake (yes it's an east and west country.. but for the world bank, it's classed as West) Turkey is number one for DEVELOPING WESTERN nations. .China is still WORLDS number one for 2002, and has been for the last few years, among those top ten are Malaysia and Indonesia too. Turkey is not even classed in the top ten of this world list. You are just confusing and manipulating your own so called quoted Newspaper facts."London Independent" .Instead of trying to attack and accuse me of something which you are doing and I am actually not, go and collect the right data, otherwise you'll end up getting it totally wrong again as with Turkey. Resources - World Bank. and Singapore Gov figures |
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If you had checked your information from the right data collection source..and not a newspaper..
You are just confusing and manipulating your own so called quoted Newspaper facts."London Independent" .Instead of trying to attack and accuse me of something which you are doing and I am actually not, go and collect the right data, otherwise you'll end up getting it totally wrong again as with Turkey. Resources - World Bank. and Singapore Gov figures [/SIZE][/QUOTE] Once again you should read the post properly instead of going off half-cocked guns blazing - I quoted 'The Economist' magazine and not the Independent. For anybody who knows anything about economics, world affairs etc this is a highly respected publication - clearly you haven't even heard of it. Yet again you have caused a plunge in the debate to a level of ignorance/stupidity where your experience will always win out - I GIVE UP!! - you win and are clearly ALWAYS correct. |
Originally posted by madmancunian We-ell... if PB has pronounced the Queensland economy to be third world it *must* be true. Scratching a living?????? Get real. I've not seen any live-aid concerts set-up to help the poor people of Queensland who are only making the "odd buck here and there". Maybe someone out to point this out to Sir Bob (G*ldhof) so that he can setup a concert right away. And I've not hearing anyone applying to go and live in Ethopia to have a better standard of living. Jeez I'm learning so much from this forum. Better rush out and buy a hoe to practice scratching a living from the sun-parched Queensland soil. I think I'm ready for anything now. |
Originally posted by madmancunian We-ell... if PB has pronounced the Queensland economy to be third world it *must* be true. Scratching a living?????? Get real. I've not seen any live-aid concerts set-up to help the poor people of Queensland who are only making the "odd buck here and there". Maybe someone out to point this out to Sir Bob (G*ldhof) so that he can setup a concert right away. A. :D :cool: :beer: |
Uh oh - the sharks are really biting at the bait now.
Wonderful thing this internet thingy - you don't know: a) how old I am b) where I have lived c) were I am currently living d) where I am going to live, and... e) whether I'm truely mad or not! PB your insights are enlightening and entertaining as ever - done your school homework yet?. |
Originally posted by madmancunian Uh oh - the sharks are really biting at the bait now. Wonderful thing this internet thingy - you don't know: a) how old I am b) where I have lived c) were I am currently living d) where I am going to live, and... e) whether I'm truely mad or not! PB your insights are enlightening and entertaining as ever - done your school homework yet?. Theres no way you are a Man utd fan far to dull even to be one of them. :cool: :beer: |
Ah PB - do I detect a hint of irratation. Don't say I've ruffled your 'feathers' - and you thought it was only you who were allowed to trample over other peoples feelings.
Oh dear, a small tear is welling up in my eye - must go and drink six crate-loads of Boddingtons to sort myself out again. |
Re: Australia - fantastic performance, great place to live
Originally posted by dpr21 Once again you should read the post properly instead of going off half-cocked guns blazing - I quoted 'The Economist' magazine and not the Independent. For anybody who knows anything about economics, world affairs etc this is a highly respected publication - clearly you haven't even heard of it. Yet again you have caused a plunge in the debate to a level of ignorance/stupidity where your experience will always win out - I GIVE UP!! - you win and are clearly ALWAYS correct. Excuse me!! Mr/Ms you sure know how to manipulate the truth!. I plunge in??... whoa ! :rolleyes: You were the one who plunged in at me! I see you are suffering from a slight lapse in your memory. (check back to my first post on this matter, you jumped in on me) You said Turkey was Number one did you not??? and you also said I was wrong with China did you not?? Well China has been the "worlds fastest growing economy in the " developing nations table, for the past few decades. And if you knew anything about it, you should be smart enough to go and check the right organisations for yourself, the ones who comply the world league charts, and not just believe in Media sources before doing your own research. Don't try and change this around on me. You were the one who got up on their "high horse" and jumped in at me, telling me that Turkey was Number one, and telling me I was wrong with China.. so don't even try that one, and twist this around. It may interest you to know that it's USA, Japan, France then the UK who are the Developed worlds fastest...which actually sounds a lot more realistic to me! Also, even the World Bank will not say "fact'.. it is always estimated figures, because the information given to them for the year, is as only as honest as the country who has supplied it. But hey you stick to your "respected" publications (it was only a survey) Call me ignorant,but I think I'll stick to the recognised World organisations, who actually comply the league tables on the economic growth. |
Originally posted by madmancunian Ah PB - do I detect a hint of irratation. Don't say I've ruffled your 'feathers' - and you thought it was only you who were allowed to trample over other peoples feelings. Oh dear, a small tear is welling up in my eye - must go and drink six crate-loads of Boddingtons to sort myself out again. Not at all if you are in UK I take that either you are on night shift or just a internet junkie to be around at this time.? no chance of a crate or two of the amber nector to drought stricken Perth. :D :cool: :beer: |
Hey Pommie - going to the cricket on Friday? Should be at least 3 days to sink a few.
Cheers - Don |
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Originally posted by Ceri You are totally wrong on your so called facts, and it is obvious you know very little about it. |
Hey PB - you are a warm fizzy beer man - what the blue-blazes are you doing in Oz? Stick your Four-X outside for a couple of minutes, add a couple of those tastless throat louzenges, and hey presto - warm english beer.
I'll try sending a crate a beer with the Red Cross for you drought-stricken Perth(-onians?), but last time I tried sending a crate it got drunk in customs before it left the UK. They mentioned something about it failing Oz quaranteen requirements. |
Sadly the Live Aid concert may not be such a joke. The government is pleading for ordinary people to contribute to a fund to help support tens of thousands of farmers whose livehood has completely dried up and not expected to recover. Drought will cost this country billions in welfare payments alone, a lot of money to Australias Taxpayers. Never mind the lost export business.
Now wait for the Bushfires, with the drought and extreme heat predicted this summer they will be the worse ever and we have to borrow fire fighting equipment from the USA for goodness sake! If any Bob Geldofs want to help out I am sure little Johnnie H will be most grateful. It is ironic, to the British the sun is a wonderful thing that you sunbake and BBQ under, but in Australia it is a severe and intense menace that is destroying it very land and economy, not to mention your health. |
Originally posted by madmancunian Hey PB - you are a warm fizzy beer man - what the blue-blazes are you doing in Oz? Stick your Four-X outside for a couple of minutes, add a couple of those tastless throat louzenges, and hey presto - warm english beer. I'll try sending a crate a beer with the Red Cross for you drought-stricken Perth(-onians?), but last time I tried sending a crate it got drunk in customs before it left the UK. They mentioned something about it failing Oz quaranteen requirements. Never drink Aussie beer without a peg on my nose , best selling Beers in Perth are Brit beers even Boddies on tap here. The best Pubs also try to be British , the Aussies stick to dark corners in dives that make a down market working mans club look good. :D :cool: :beer: |
Originally posted by madmancunian Hey PB - you are a warm fizzy beer man - what the blue-blazes are you doing in Oz? Stick your Four-X outside for a couple of minutes, add a couple of those tastless throat louzenges, and hey presto - warm english beer. I'll try sending a crate a beer with the Red Cross for you drought-stricken Perth(-onians?), but last time I tried sending a crate it got drunk in customs before it left the UK. They mentioned something about it failing Oz quaranteen requirements. |
Originally posted by madmancunian Hey PB - you are a warm fizzy beer man - what the blue-blazes are you doing in Oz? Stick your Four-X outside for a couple of minutes, add a couple of those tastless throat louzenges, and hey presto - warm english beer. I'll try sending a crate a beer with the Red Cross for you drought-stricken Perth(-onians?), but last time I tried sending a crate it got drunk in customs before it left the UK. They mentioned something about it failing Oz quaranteen requirements. Lozenges tasteless and by the way, proper nouns are usually spelt with capitals... |
pommiesheila,
I won't mark you grammer if you won't mark mine (i.e. sentences don't end with ...) Bye-bye now. |
Originally posted by madmancunian pommiesheila, I won't mark you grammer if you won't mark mine (i.e. sentences don't end with ...) Bye-bye now. |
pommiesheila,
Yes my 2-finger speed typing whilst holding 2 bottles of boddingtons in my hands isn't as got as it used to be - my sentence should indeed read: "I won't mark your grammar if you won't mark mine (i.e. sentences don't end with ...)" Do you feel better now? The sentiment remains the same. Your laudable attempts to correct my spelling and grammar are misdirected. There are others on this forum that are in desperate need of your insightful lexical analysis of my English sentences. Feel free to put us all in detention if you wish - I'd imagine that most would simply ignore you. |
Originally posted by madmancunian pommiesheila, Yes my 2-finger speed typing whilst holding 2 bottles of boddingtons in my hands isn't as got as it used to be - my sentence should indeed read: "I won't mark your grammar if you won't mark mine (i.e. sentences don't end with ...)" Do you feel better now? The sentiment remains the same. Your laudable attempts to correct my spelling and grammar are misdirected. There are others on this forum that are in desperate need of your insightful lexical analysis of my English sentences. Feel free to put us all in detention if you wish - I'd imagine that most would simply ignore you. |
Can do both - I'm getting tired now as I've read too much BS on this forum today.
Tiem to stopp writting as it's iratating the teachers. ciao |
Originally posted by madmancunian Can do both - I'm getting tired now as I've read too much BS on this forum today. Tiem to stopp writting as it's iratating the teachers. ciao MOST Australian employers favour compulsory drug and alcohol testing at work, a survey has found. The Health Works survey found 66 per cent of employers were in favour of drug testing and 68 per cent were in favour of alcohol testing. About half of those surveyed thought the testing should be random and 80 per cent believed drug and alcohol testing should be compulsory after a workplace accident. :D :cool: :beer: |
Heh PB, stop monkeying around!
I didn't mean to encroach on your patch. Seeing how you are the best bull-miester - do you give out the *bull* licences on this forum? Wrt the drug testing, rumour has it they will targeting Perth first as their seems to be incredible amount lunatic ranting coming from there.Though I doubt they''ll be able to find you at *work* as you obviously haven't finished year 12 yet. |
Originally posted by madmancunian Heh PB, stop monkeying around! I didn't mean to encroach on your patch. Seeing how you are the best bull-miester - do you give out the *bull* licences on this forum? Wrt the drug testing, rumour has it they will targeting Perth first as their seems to be incredible amount lunatic ranting coming from there.Though I doubt they''ll be able to find you at *work* as you obviously haven't finished year 12 yet. :D :D :rolleyes: |
Originally posted by madmancunian Can do both - I'm getting tired now as I've read too much BS on this forum today. Tiem to stopp writting as it's iratating the teachers. ciao |
Originally posted by michael29 The bs will never end on this forum madmancunian as long as there is whinging poms that insist on Australia being so poor and third world,i mean ive lived in most capital cities in Australia and i have to tell you i'm thinking of immigrating to Brixton as i might get a better quality of life.Funny how the whingers are still slagging it off whilst living there.All i can say is you twits made the move there so like it or lump it people. I should Sir you do worse maybe Perth? Brixton looks a lot safer right now. M'Bros associate Tan Duy Huynh, 21, died in Royal Perth Hospital after being stabbed in the chest during a brawl between about a dozen M'Bros and Spider Boys members inside the Church nightclub on Lake Street about 4am. The violence spilt out, with a trail of blood leading police to a Francis Street carpark and another man with a stab wound to his arm THE owner of a Warnbro house destroyed by arsonists says he had been expecting to be attacked. Steve Toms, 41, stayed with a friend in Perth on Friday night because he feared a violent reprisal from a man with whom he had been involved in a fight earlier in the evening. He said he had an ongoing feud with the man and recently took steps to obtain a restraining order against him after a brick was thrown at his home. Mr Toms, a father of three who lives alone, was left with only the clothes he was wearing after his uninsured home and car were destroyed in what police confirmed was an arson attack. DRINK-spiking in Perth bars and nightclubs has reached alarming levels, according to a top Perth doctor. Most occur in Perth nightclubs. The figures come from a recent assessment of calls from victims to a range of helplines. Paul Quigley, an expert in emergency medicine and toxicology, said figures compiled since a police crackdown last month showed drink-spiking was much more common than previously believed. :D :cool: |
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