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Apparently there is no population explosion on this planet. :blink:

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Socialist mumbo jumbo

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Population growth in the 1st world is not a problem but in the 3rd world it is

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Right about too few having too much.....even worse is those victim to the con often fall for the con...

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Really? I don't see any countries with rapidly growing populations happy with their lot nor becoming better off.

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All very much how it is actually.

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Hilarious twaddle!

What those optimists who constantly quote projections of "only" a stable population of 9.3Bn forget - or choose to ignore - is that if the planet can only sustainably support a population of a fraction of that figure it's meaningless.

Assuming (as I do) that it's reasonable to think the third world aspires to the standard of living that we do, some have calculated that a sustainable population is only in the order of 2.5 - 3Bn. That's the number of people alive when I was a student! And that figure assumes starting from a sustainable base anyway, not from where we are now, with depleted reserves of oil, ores and energy.

All populations will expand until they crash: technology has allowed humans to outperform the norm but sooner or later the crash will come and be all the worse for it. :eek:

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Perhaps it's time for WW3, or psycho at the button nuclear terrorist or HIV mark2.

Or do we await natural phenomena like drowning in the bath or cyclonic activity to balance nature?

Actually look at the natural world and it has had a reputation of controlling anomalies.

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You forgot pandemics:)

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:lol: I did, I did, but I was leaning toward the bath solution. :D

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There's a catch 22 situation here that makes the above outcome look inevitable.

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The whole bloody thing is skewed by the concept that improvement can only be derived from expansion and growth.

Yet improvement and the speed of it can come from maintaining an equilibrium that could satiate reasoned desire.

Problem; avarice kills reason.

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>>Yet improvement and the speed of it can come from maintaining an equilibrium that could satiate reasoned desire.<<

If I could understand that one I'd agree with it. ;)

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:lol: Would you like a glass?

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For a minute I thought Badge had hijacked your login :D

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Fark.
I'm not touching this stuff anymore. :lol:

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Hopefully the damage isn't permanent :fingerscrossed:

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I know a lot of people that would say it took place long ago. :D

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The same is true of many of us :o

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The definition of population changed in 2006 with the 12/16 month rule which includes permanent immigrants, and temps e.g. 2nd year backpackers, international students, 457 workers, dependents, NZs and even Oz citizens if more returning vs leaving.

If you exclude temps the high population growth rate looks very tepid indeed.

Meanwhile many demographers are contesting the UNs high end growth and predict that population decline may commence within a generation.......

However, in Oz the high end data is used by the anti population growth lobby and bigots to demand lower immigration (from Asia/Africa).....

The real issue is how do we manage both ageing and declining populations.

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Our society, since about the 16th century, has been built on continued expansion and growth. No growth means no interest, which means no banking as we know it. It also means no population growth either, which means explicit or implicit control of fertility.

In short, it's easier for the world society to crash than it is to get from here to a 'no growth' world.

The agent of the crash and rebalancing of population is likely to be disease/food - wars really don't cut it when you are looking at population numbers (remember the post war baby boomers).

However, it's pretty unlikely we would learn any lessons, even after a crash. The one that 'cheats' and goes for growth will outcompete the one that doesn't.

In short, we're screwed.

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Bit pessimistic and wishing for catastrophe?

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No need to wish for one. Humanity's inability to deal with the population explosion means it's coming sooner or later - regardless of any other measures that are taken

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I'd get your laughing gear round this from Prof. Ian Goldin, it's not doom and gloom, and for most countries they will be desperate for workers etc. within a generation when ageing and declining populations kick in:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ian-...b_1064352.html

However, the doom and gloom comes from Sustainable Population Australia, Stable Population Party, Population Matters UK and offshoots of Zero Population Group in the USA, all are influenced by one man, John Tanton, the racist founder of the modern anti immigration movement.