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pommie bastard Apr 16th 2003 4:27 pm

Aussie Police
 
Good advice if the nice policeman here requires you stand and spread them , keep you arms down and do it fast very gun happy these Boys.

POLICE have shot and seriously injured a man seen acting suspiciously at a Perth service station in the early hours of this morning.

Three officers from two cars turned up at the Mobil station in suburban Osborne Park shortly before 2am (WST) today after reports of a man loitering at the station in a Ford Fairlane sedan, police said.

http://www.thewest.com.au/20030417/n...-sto95248.html

:D :cool: :beer:

booboo1 Apr 16th 2003 11:58 pm

My brother is a policeman in Perth. Unfortunatley he has to deal with scumbags as part of the job. I know what he has to deal with and I for one wouldn,t want the job. But then again, their damned for what they do and for what they don,t do. But he has the balls to do the job as best he can.
P.s he has been in Perth for over 25 years now. He actually likes living there and is a postive person and has a very good family.

BooBoo

Stoney Apr 17th 2003 3:32 am

Re: Aussie Police
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pommie bastard
Good advice if the nice policeman here requires you stand and spread them , keep you arms down and do it fast very gun happy these Boys.

POLICE have shot and seriously injured a man seen acting suspiciously at a Perth service station in the early hours of this morning.

Three officers from two cars turned up at the Mobil station in suburban Osborne Park shortly before 2am (WST) today after reports of a man loitering at the station in a Ford Fairlane sedan, police said.

http://www.thewest.com.au/20030417/n...-sto95248.html




What was he doing out at that time of night anyway, with all that crime about, must be stupid, deserved to be shot

kizkat Apr 17th 2003 5:45 am

Re: Aussie Police
 

Originally posted by pommie bastard
Good advice if the nice policeman here requires you stand and spread them , keep you arms down and do it fast very gun happy these Boys.

http://www.thewest.com.au/20030417/n...-sto95248.html

:D :cool: :beer:

The man reversed his vehicle and crashed into a police car?
Didnt leap out at once and exchange insurance information?
He was asking for it.

penzer Apr 17th 2003 10:20 am

shoot him .....or be shot.............what do you expect......give him a bit of cake.......law is law.......everyone should know it.....
policeman also have family and kids.

renth Apr 17th 2003 12:02 pm

Re: Aussie Police
 
What gets me is the coppers loosed off 10 rounds hitting him only twice and only wounding him.

It's well out of order though, the bloke may have been a nutter but he wasn't armed.


Originally posted by pommie bastard
Good advice if the nice policeman here requires you stand and spread them , keep you arms down and do it fast very gun happy these Boys.

POLICE have shot and seriously injured a man seen acting suspiciously at a Perth service station in the early hours of this morning.

Three officers from two cars turned up at the Mobil station in suburban Osborne Park shortly before 2am (WST) today after reports of a man loitering at the station in a Ford Fairlane sedan, police said.

http://www.thewest.com.au/20030417/n...-sto95248.html

:D :cool: :beer:

mr mover Apr 17th 2003 12:07 pm

only 2 hits from 10 rounds ,down the firing range for those two.....

pommie bastard Apr 27th 2003 1:31 pm


Originally posted by penzer
shoot him .....or be shot.............what do you expect......give him a bit of cake.......law is law.......everyone should know it.....
policeman also have family and kids.

Give a prat a uniform and a gun and watch the result , most of the cops here are not up to the job far too small hight wise so they need a gun to make people obey them.



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booboo1 Apr 27th 2003 10:56 pm

:zzz:

PeteY Apr 27th 2003 11:35 pm

So what exactly is the point of this thread?


You trying to warn us to duck and cover whenever we see a policeman?

I take it you have never been to the states.....or to Spain....or to erm....anywhere they have armed police. This sort of thing happens everwhere, australia is no different. About seven months ago a policeman here in the UK shot and killed someone because they thought he might have been armed. He was'nt. I personally can't blame them, who would want to wait and find out for sure?

If you have some official statistics that show how trigger happy the oz police (compared with those of other countries) are then please do post them......

The guy in the news item you were talking about could have simply got out of the car. Instead he rammed one of the police units.

I suppose, had you been a police officer, and had you been there, you would have strolled up to the drivers window and he would have obeyed your every command.. Or....maybe you would have just let him drive off to crash into some bystander ....

kizkat Apr 28th 2003 7:06 am

Re: Aussie Police
 

Originally posted by renth
What gets me is the coppers loosed off 10 rounds hitting him only twice and only wounding him.

It's well out of order though, the bloke may have been a nutter but he wasn't armed.
He was armed with the car that he rammed the police vehicle with. I guess a cop could consider that assault with a deadly weapon under the circumstances. Perhaps that so frightened
them that it put them off their aim.
In any case, anyone who would ram a cop car then speed off probably has something bigger to hide than a parking ticket.
Cops have to go after them with that expectation in mind.

delboy Apr 28th 2003 8:39 am

Re: Aussie Police
 
Pommie "bang" did they miss you ?

Is it really all that bad ?

At least the police have got shooters and will use them!

Your views are interesting and seem genuine.
But tell me when were you last in England, sorry UK must be PC.

I would rather take my chances in OZ, than North London.

Last week,

Old age pensioner 82 years old raped and battered in her home.
TB reaches 80 year high in Newham, East London.
Baby girl three months sexually assalted by social worker.
Father of two stabbed to death trying to stop youths stealing vehicle.
Gun battle takes life on Clerkenwell street.
School girl 13 dies of heroine overdose.

£50000.00 a year no problem.
Problem is no quality of life, no society, its gone mate.
Welcome to the multi cultural disaster.

All cashed up and getting my familiy out, cant take no more.


Wise up!!!

pommie bastard Apr 28th 2003 12:50 pm

Re: Aussie Police
 

Originally posted by delboy
Pommie "bang" did they miss you ?

Is it really all that bad ?

At least the police have got shooters and will use them!

Your views are interesting and seem genuine.
But tell me when were you last in England, sorry UK must be PC.

I would rather take my chances in OZ, than North London.

Last week,

Old age pensioner 82 years old raped and battered in her home.
TB reaches 80 year high in Newham, East London.
Baby girl three months sexually assalted by social worker.
Father of two stabbed to death trying to stop youths stealing vehicle.
Gun battle takes life on Clerkenwell street.
School girl 13 dies of heroine overdose.

£50000.00 a year no problem.
Problem is no quality of life, no society, its gone mate.
Welcome to the multi cultural disaster.

All cashed up and getting my familiy out, cant take no more.


Wise up!!!
Home invations are very common here too and old ladies get bashed whats new?
Australia has long been a multi cultural disaster get a life they have let in all kinds of outcasts , were do you think you are going?

http://www.thewest.com.au/20030429/n...-sto96256.html

PERTH'S Asian gang war re-ignited in a dark Northbridge laneway yesterday as two brothers were stabbed during a brawl involving members and associates of the Spider Boys and M'Bros gangs.

A 17-year-old male was stabbed five times and his 16-year-old brother twice in a violent clash which was over in a matter of seconds.

They both needed hospital surgery. The younger brother was eventually released from hospital while the 17-year-old was in a serious but stable condition last night.

Police have linked three deaths to Asian gang violence in the past 15 months, the most recent being 21-year-old M'Bros member Tan Duy Huynh, 21, who was stabbed outside the Church nightclub on December 1.

http://www.thewest.com.au/20030429/u...-sto28636.html

AFTER reading your report that another sex worker has met a violent death (26/4), surely by now the Minister for Police, Michelle Roberts, can see that the industry that she proposes to legalise is not a nice one? It has claimed many lives through suicide, murder or drug abuse.

http://ausissues.com/go/issues/natio...owIssue/0/4521


Ps open your eyes Australia is a dustbin it will only go farther down .




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pommie bastard Apr 28th 2003 1:38 pm


Originally posted by PeteY
So what exactly is the point of this thread?


You trying to warn us to duck and cover whenever we see a policeman?

I take it you have never been to the states.....or to Spain....or to erm....anywhere they have armed police. This sort of thing happens everwhere, australia is no different. About seven months ago a policeman here in the UK shot and killed someone because they thought he might have been armed. He was'nt. I personally can't blame them, who would want to wait and find out for sure?

If you have some official statistics that show how trigger happy the oz police (compared with those of other countries) are then please do post them......

The guy in the news item you were talking about could have simply got out of the car. Instead he rammed one of the police units.

I suppose, had you been a police officer, and had you been there, you would have strolled up to the drivers window and he would have obeyed your every command.. Or....maybe you would have just let him drive off to crash into some bystander ....

Look at it this way why are all policemen here armed , because they have to deal with armed cons or because they have no idea about policing without the aid of a weapon?
Having dealt with the local police the best you say they are is arseholes , they have few people skills and would rather shoot anyone than talk to them .
The big money earner here for Mr plod is graft it goes on all over the place lost count of the thick sods who have been caught out .
We even had the Pods dealing in drugs and getting a free go in the many Brothels , plus one blown up by the bikes because he crossed them and he was a topman in the police force here.
We were watching England play Brasil in the world cup in the OB , just up the road is the Police training school so in walks a dozen or so of WAs finest dressed in Brasil shirts and we settled down to these prats abusing the 1200 or so England fans and after striking one guy with can a fight broke out , scum would just about cover it.





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dotty Apr 28th 2003 4:48 pm

Re: Aussie Police
 
[QUOTE}

North London.

Last week,

Old age pensioner 82 years old raped and battered in her home.
TB reaches 80 year high in Newham, East London.
Baby girl three months sexually assalted by social worker.
Father of two stabbed to death trying to stop youths stealing vehicle.
Gun battle takes life on Clerkenwell street.
School girl 13 dies of heroine overdose.

Wise up!!! [/QUOTE]

Same has happend to OAP,s here, often.
Replace TB with dengue fever, ross river fever and yes aparantely we do get TB too. Kids are not even immunised for it.
Sickening stories of child abuse sexual or assault most days.
Plenty of stabbings, and people injured trying to stop crime.
Gun battles, try Gold Coast for latest hot spot, Syd, Melb a good bet too.
School girl 15 dies of ecstasy overdose.


For heavens sake, everything you mention has happened here too!

It is incredible that people are paying to immigrate on the grounds that they will escape the very things that happen here>

Sometimes I simply cant believe that people dont realise that OZ is exactly the same in the way of social problems.

May I ask do you really think that Australia has no Pedophiles, no drug takers, no violent crime, no abuse of the elderly. I'm not trying to be rude but I find it incredible that this type of stuff is believed, I mean what do you base these thoughts on, how do you get the impression Australia has escaped what the rest of the world puts up with?

Megalania Apr 28th 2003 5:25 pm

I still find it near impossible to believe,
That even Poms could be so naive,
As to think,
That Aussie shit don't stink!

Am I so slow,
Or is Dotty in the know,
That there exist,
Believers in fairy tales?

jayr Apr 28th 2003 6:07 pm

There's many a Pom
With sunglasses on
Who dreams the Australian life
Of streets free of crime
No litter and grime
And no more trouble or strife

You must be a fool
To not have a pool
And a house on a half acre block
So off for the visa
(The wife, it'll please 'er)
And off to Australia they flock

And so to arrival!
(One tip for survival,
watch for the spiders that bite)
It's sunny and beachy!
Life is so peachy!
(Though something went bump in the night)

And now that they're here
And sampled the beer
(That VB it tastes of piss)
They mix with their own
In the yard at their home
And realise there's something they miss

It's difficult to finger
But home thoughts, they linger
And it's more than a 'phone call away
Good luck to Australia
And all those who sail here
As the dream slowly fades away

dotty Apr 28th 2003 6:29 pm

Just this morning, chatting with a immigrant friend from Sussex, she has been here a year. "God we were so Gullible", " Stupid pommies we believed any Sh-- we wanted to hear".

Shes a good mate, and can fortunately laugh at how it really is compared to the "dream" they had in the UK. She can afford to laugh tho they kept a property in the UK and a share in a business.

Megalania Apr 28th 2003 7:27 pm


Originally posted by jayr
There's many a Pom
With sunglasses on
Who dreams the Australian life
Of streets free of crime
No litter and grime
And no more trouble or strife

You must be a fool
To not have a pool
And a house on a half acre block
So off for the visa
(The wife, it'll please 'er)
And off to Australia they flock

And so to arrival!
(One tip for survival,
watch for the spiders that bite)
It's sunny and beachy!
Life is so peachy!
(Though something went bump in the night)

And now that they're here
And sampled the beer
(That VB it tastes of piss)
They mix with their own
In the yard at their home
And realise there's something they miss

It's difficult to finger
But home thoughts, they linger
And it's more than a 'phone call away
Good luck to Australia
And all those who sail here
As the dream slowly fades away
Ah Master "jayr",
You does amaze ma!

Houdini Apr 28th 2003 8:45 pm

C'mon people let's get real! I've watched Neighbours and Home and Away for years and seen none of these horrors you talk of. Mind you, I do recall young Toby I think it was, throw a hand grenade into Erinsboro pond. Oh and Joe Mangle kicked bouncer once but I think this was accidental.

delboy Apr 28th 2003 10:07 pm

crime in oz
 
hi im del boys wife allison and am concerned about what some of you pomms have to say; is it because you r sad people who have failed in oz or just that you r truly right . I dont mean to sound rude but i think everyone expectations r different thank goodness.I know everycountry must have problems including all the right and wrong people in it but all i hope is that i can feel safe and secure in my space and my children , and at the moment i dont in the uk , i might not even in oz but i have got nothing to loose here so i will give it ago .Can someone tell me the real story of crime in oz without getting to down on life i would like to hear. Im sure you all have some good and nasty tales to tell please specially you pb astard ; there must be something nice comes out of your mouth or is all doom and gloom see you allison

Megalania Apr 28th 2003 11:12 pm

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by delboy
hi im del boys wife allison and am concerned about what some of you pomms have to say; is it because you r sad people who have failed in oz or just that you r truly right . I dont mean to sound rude but i think everyone expectations r different thank goodness.I know everycountry must have problems including all the right and wrong people in it but all i hope is that i can feel safe and secure in my space and my children , and at the moment i dont in the uk , i might not even in oz but i have got nothing to loose here so i will give it ago .Can someone tell me the real story of crime in oz without getting to down on life i would like to hear. Im sure you all have some good and nasty tales to tell please specially you pb astard ; there must be something nice comes out of your mouth or is all doom and gloom see you allison
Don't believe me, I know nothing about crime. Nor do the other hooligans that hang around here.

Worst thing that happened to me criminally in the last year was a pimply young bloke (17?) cadged $2 from me claiming he needed the bus fare. Later saw him toting a carton of beer to his car. Should have given him a kick in the quoit, poetic but a crime.

Have a gander at:
Australian Institute of Criminology

mr mover Apr 29th 2003 12:13 am

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by delboy
hi im del boys wife allison and am concerned about what some of you pomms have to say; is it because you r sad people who have failed in oz or just that you r truly right . I dont mean to sound rude but i think everyone expectations r different thank goodness.I know everycountry must have problems including all the right and wrong people in it but all i hope is that i can feel safe and secure in my space and my children , and at the moment i dont in the uk , i might not even in oz but i have got nothing to loose here so i will give it ago .Can someone tell me the real story of crime in oz without getting to down on life i would like to hear. Im sure you all have some good and nasty tales to tell please specially you pb astard ; there must be something nice comes out of your mouth or is all doom and gloom see you allison
ALLY good news, just moved a young guy, in the other day, just returned from the old dart, with his scottish bride spent 5yrs in london with [De l lo r] guess the rest , back here 5 mins , pick, s up a nice bean counter job with orlando wines , a positive story , i see these every day ...mm:beer: :D

jayr Apr 29th 2003 12:13 pm

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by delboy
hi im del boys wife allison and am concerned about what some of you pomms have to say; is it because you r sad people who have failed in oz or just that you r truly right . I dont mean to sound rude but i think everyone expectations r different thank goodness.I know everycountry must have problems including all the right and wrong people in it but all i hope is that i can feel safe and secure in my space and my children , and at the moment i dont in the uk , i might not even in oz but i have got nothing to loose here so i will give it ago .Can someone tell me the real story of crime in oz without getting to down on life i would like to hear. Im sure you all have some good and nasty tales to tell please specially you pb astard ; there must be something nice comes out of your mouth or is all doom and gloom see you allison

Read the australian papers online, you will discover it's much the same as UK, though 'hoons' and utes don't seem to mix well. I know there's a view that Oz has less crime but my own impression is that its much the same

pommie bastard Apr 29th 2003 12:55 pm

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by delboy
hi im del boys wife allison and am concerned about what some of you pomms have to say; is it because you r sad people who have failed in oz or just that you r truly right . I dont mean to sound rude but i think everyone expectations r different thank goodness.I know everycountry must have problems including all the right and wrong people in it but all i hope is that i can feel safe and secure in my space and my children , and at the moment i dont in the uk , i might not even in oz but i have got nothing to loose here so i will give it ago .Can someone tell me the real story of crime in oz without getting to down on life i would like to hear. Im sure you all have some good and nasty tales to tell please specially you pb astard ; there must be something nice comes out of your mouth or is all doom and gloom see you allison
Australia is a mini UK with the same crime and drawbacks , this story reminds me of the good old days in the London Met.
PS If you think any of us have failed dream on we just see the real Australia you seem blind too , there is no land of plenty , you have more to lose than you know .



WEST Australian police officers cavorted with strippers and paid for sex with prostitutes, compromising their roles in law enforcement, the state's police royal commission heard yesterday.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...5E2702,00.html

Adults only this goes on in the UK , theres no answer to this apart from a life sentence.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...5E1702,00.html


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pommie bastard Apr 29th 2003 12:59 pm

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by mr mover
ALLY good news, just moved a young guy, in the other day, just returned from the old dart, with his scottish bride spent 5yrs in london with [De l lo r] guess the rest , back here 5 mins , pick, s up a nice bean counter job with orlando wines , a positive story , i see these every day ...mm:beer: :D
Does make you wonder why so many Australians head off to the UK , could be shite sinks to the bottom? and the best head North , will Kylie ever return god I hope so .
We know many who gave up on Australia and have never returned but they had skills that count.



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dotty Apr 29th 2003 4:10 pm

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by delboy
hi im del boys wife allison and am concerned about what some of you pomms have to say; is it because you r sad people who have failed in oz or just that you r truly right . I dont mean to sound rude but i think everyone expectations r different thank goodness.I know everycountry must have problems including all the right and wrong people in it but all i hope is that i can feel safe and secure in my space and my children , and at the moment i dont in the uk , i might not even in oz but i have got nothing to loose here so i will give it ago .Can someone tell me the real story of crime in oz without getting to down on life i would like to hear. Im sure you all have some good and nasty tales to tell please specially you pb astard ; there must be something nice comes out of your mouth or is all doom and gloom see you allison

Allison, I dont think people are posting here that crime is in Australia because they have failed! They are posting that because WE HAVE CRIME here.

My personal experience has included, burglary, by adults. Burglary and vandalism by children as young as eight. Car break ins. Theft of property from home and business.

We personally know of child abuse in its most sickening form, which we reported. Friends with teenage children with Drug problems, and a friends eight year old daughter picked up by alleged pedophile.

We have friends and family all over the UK, Canada, USA, and to be quite honest, I only see and hear the same from them as we get here.

Would I walk on the streets at night after dark, NO.
Could my teenagers buy any drug they wanted easily YES.
Would I allow younger children to play where I could not see them NO.
Do I see needles in public places YES.
Have their been armed robberies near me YES.


Human nature dictates that Australians will have just as many crooks criminals, and sickos as anywhere else.

Somebody suggested you read the on line newspapers. Here are a few names The Courier Mail, The age, The Australian, Sydney Herald.

Shiralee Apr 29th 2003 5:10 pm

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by delboy
hi im del boys wife allison and am concerned about what some of you pomms have to say; is it because you r sad people who have failed in oz or just that you r truly right . I dont mean to sound rude but i think everyone expectations r different thank goodness.I know everycountry must have problems including all the right and wrong people in it but all i hope is that i can feel safe and secure in my space and my children , and at the moment i dont in the uk , i might not even in oz but i have got nothing to loose here so i will give it ago .Can someone tell me the real story of crime in oz without getting to down on life i would like to hear. Im sure you all have some good and nasty tales to tell please specially you pb astard ; there must be something nice comes out of your mouth or is all doom and gloom see you allison
Sorry to disappoint Allison but crime is a reality here. Perth is the crime capital of Australia. Our house contents insurance doubled....yes doubled....when we moved from Melbourne to Perth and we unfortunately soon found out why. Within weeks of arriving in Perth everything was stolen from our lock-up garage.
We live in East Fremantle and when we arrived I did all my shopping in Freo but my husband felt uncomfortable with this as there were just too many dodgy characters for it to be safe there with two small children. He suggested I shop in the shopping centres instead but I had the misfortune of sitting with a group of women at school who had each been directly affected by crime in shopping centres, from minor to pretty sickening crimes. They don't have a police station in the shopping centre for nothing - and that's in a good area. I have never felt so vulnerable as I have living here in Perth, it seems everyone I meet here has a terrible story to tell.
There are great things about Australia but being crime-free is not one of them.

jayr Apr 29th 2003 5:21 pm

Allison

I trust you no longer think we are sad people who have failed?

Jayr

AndrewR Apr 29th 2003 5:45 pm

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by delboy
hi im del boys wife allison and am concerned about what some of you pomms have to say; is it because you r sad people who have failed in oz or just that you r truly right . I dont mean to sound rude but i think everyone expectations r different thank goodness.I know everycountry must have problems including all the right and wrong people in it but all i hope is that i can feel safe and secure in my space and my children , and at the moment i dont in the uk , i might not even in oz but i have got nothing to loose here so i will give it ago .Can someone tell me the real story of crime in oz without getting to down on life i would like to hear. Im sure you all have some good and nasty tales to tell please specially you pb astard ; there must be something nice comes out of your mouth or is all doom and gloom see you allison

saw this thread and decided to post...never been to Oz (currently in Canada) but have seen crime stats, and remember reading that for australia, they are amongst the very worst in the world, particularly for theft (property and personal).

amy&matt Apr 29th 2003 10:23 pm

Once a convict, always a convict :lecture: :D

Still, I'd rather be in Oz than the US of A

pommie bastard Apr 30th 2003 1:45 pm


Originally posted by amy&matt
Once a convict, always a convict :lecture: :D

Still, I'd rather be in Oz than the US of A
Have you got the choice though? the USA is more pickey who it lets in .


:D :cool: :beer:

jah4reds Apr 30th 2003 2:08 pm

Re: crime in oz
 

Originally posted by AndrewR
saw this thread and decided to post...never been to Oz (currently in Canada) but have seen crime stats, and remember reading that for australia, they are amongst the very worst in the world, particularly for theft (property and personal).
True - but for the same reason that UK crime statistics for theft go up in the summer months they are high here - because of the heat there are too many open doors and windows left open in houses. This allows opportunistic thieves to nip in and make off with any valuables lying around.

Security screens are pretty essential here I'd say.

AndyH

mr mover Apr 30th 2003 10:28 pm

wet backs
 

Originally posted by pommie bastard
Have you got the choice though? the USA is more pickey who it lets in .


:D :cool: :beer:
1,000,000 million ,mexicans would agree with you, :beer:

pommie bastard May 1st 2003 1:55 pm

Re: wet backs
 

Originally posted by mr mover
1,000,000 million ,mexicans would agree with you, :beer:
Good tip learn Chinese before you get here , the way its going its going to replace English as Australias first langauge.



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pommie bastard May 1st 2003 3:02 pm

Re: Aussie Police
 

Originally posted by delboy
Pommie "bang" did they miss you ?

Is it really all that bad ?

At least the police have got shooters and will use them!

Your views are interesting and seem genuine.
But tell me when were you last in England, sorry UK must be PC.

I would rather take my chances in OZ, than North London.



Wise up!!!
Oh to wise in this land of cons and want to be cons.

A BIKIE accused of a baseball bat attack has walked free after two crucial witnesses refused to tell a court the same story they told police.


A FORMER drug squad detective claimed yesterday there was nothing inappropriate about he and his wife buying a small rural property from a criminal he had arrested and charged with drug dealing.

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