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the troubadour Apr 18th 2015 2:32 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11621919)
Ha ha ha. Really. I read the net. I love facts. Please provide and I will agree with your point of view.

Now the fact that Australia was put at most expensive country in the world only came out yesterday. I'm sure you'll be able to locate it.

Beoz Apr 18th 2015 7:30 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 11622335)
Now the fact that Australia was put at most expensive country in the world only came out yesterday. I'm sure you'll be able to locate it.

Stats?

I thought not

Amazulu Apr 18th 2015 9:05 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 11622335)
Now the fact that Australia was put at most expensive country in the world only came out yesterday. I'm sure you'll be able to locate it.

Rubbish

Norway is more expensive than Australia

Prove me wrong

There are others too

Beoz Apr 18th 2015 9:22 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11622481)
Rubbish

Norway is more expensive than Australia

Prove me wrong

There are others too

Even the Big Mac index doesn't have Australia at the top anymore largely due to the declining dollar. But we all know exchange rate is a bad indicator of a countries expensiveness because it doesn't take into account what locals earn and their ability to spend.

He won't prove you wrong though. Like all good left wingers all mouth and no trousers.

http://mobile.news.com.au/finance/money/world-price-comparison-2015-what-it-costs-for-a-big-mac-and-other-goods/story-fnagkbpv-1227307915966

the troubadour Apr 18th 2015 11:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11622428)
Stats?

I thought not

Australia most expensive country in the world. Check out The Age yesterday. Don't think too hard just consult the figures.

the troubadour Apr 18th 2015 11:07 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11622497)
Even the Big Mac index doesn't have Australia at the top anymore largely due to the declining dollar. But we all know exchange rate is a bad indicator of a countries expensiveness because it doesn't take into account what locals earn and their ability to spend.

He won't prove you wrong though. Like all good left wingers all mouth and no trousers.

World Price Comparison 2015: What it costs for a Big Mac and other goods | News.com.au

Like all not so good Right Wingers happy to sell the country down the swany.
Check out The Age yesterday where it breaks down costs of countries.

the troubadour Apr 18th 2015 11:14 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11622481)
Rubbish

Norway is more expensive than Australia

Prove me wrong

There are others too

I have to prove nothing.Check the figures out. I was a little surprised it was tops. Norway of course is in a far better position than Australia having a very wealthy Sovereign Fund and probably best safety net of all countries.

Hardly matters if the headline is right or not. Most expensive or second most or third.Australia is very expensive which ever way you look.

Amazulu Apr 18th 2015 11:15 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11622497)
Even the Big Mac index doesn't have Australia at the top anymore largely due to the declining dollar. But we all know exchange rate is a bad indicator of a countries expensiveness because it doesn't take into account what locals earn and their ability to spend.

He won't prove you wrong though. Like all good left wingers all mouth and no trousers.

World Price Comparison 2015: What it costs for a Big Mac and other goods | News.com.au

Indeed

Good friends of ours was recently in Oslo

This is a guy who is hypercritical about the COL of Australia

Norway was a reality check IHO

Example:
A basic evening meal in Oslo in a good but not upmarket restaurant:
4 pizzas
1 glass of red
1 beer
2 soft drinks
2 ice creams

$325

Tell me that's not f**king expensive

Amazulu Apr 18th 2015 11:23 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 11622579)
Check the figures out. I was a little surprised it was tops. Norway of course is in a far better position than Australia having a very wealthy Sovereign Fund and probably best safety net of all countries.

Hardly matters if the headline is right or not. Most expensive or second most or third.Australia is very expensive which ever way you look.

Backing off I see

My post was in response to your's stating that Australia is the most expensive country in the world when it is patently not

Norway is a great country that has managed its resource very well (and we have not) and their SWF is a great example of this but Australia has over $2t in super which is basically there for the same thing. It will be over $5t in my lifetime

I know that as a leftie, you are going to say that super is shit as the state should provide for pensions but there it is. I'm on track for a pretty comfortable retirement - without the need to have state help. That's not important to you I know, but it is to me

Swerv-o Apr 19th 2015 12:47 am

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11622580)
Indeed

Good friends of ours was recently in Oslo

This is a guy who is hypercritical about the COL of Australia

Norway was a reality check IHO

Example:
A basic evening meal in Oslo in a good but not upmarket restaurant:
4 pizzas
1 glass of red
1 beer
2 soft drinks
2 ice creams

$325

Tell me that's not f**king expensive

I suspect that Troubadour is referring to this article:

Cost of living: Australia tops Deutsche Bank's global list of expensive countries - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Which also highlights the fact that Oslo is f**doing expensive...


S

Amazulu Apr 19th 2015 1:06 am

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Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 11622641)
I suspect that Troubadour is referring to this article:

Cost of living: Australia tops Deutsche Bank's global list of expensive countries - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Which also highlights the fact that Oslo is f**doing expensive...


S

Sure, I know what he was referring to

There is no question Australia is expensive but it is also no question that many 1st world countries with a high standard of living and high social costs are expensive places to live

It's not a coincidence

Singapore is mentally expensive if you go for anything that isn't local and basic (which can also be good BTW)

Beoz Apr 19th 2015 9:35 am

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 11622641)
I suspect that Troubadour is referring to this article:

Cost of living: Australia tops Deutsche Bank's global list of expensive countries - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Which also highlights the fact that Oslo is f**doing expensive...


S

That's the same report I posted. Different summary though. ..... and how it figures Australia is the most expensive country is beyond me. What because a 2 litre bottle of Coke is and bogans love 2 litres worth of Coke? How about petrol. On that list its got to be the biggest expense in most peoples lives. Australia certainly is not top. They also listed the minimum public transport fare. Well I don't know about the minimum but a weekly on Sydney Trains is a damn sight cheaper than a weekly on the London Underground. This is a bad stat. A minimum fare never hits the back pocket. A weekly does.

These stats prove one thing though. You'll see Australia going down the expensive list. But for us who live here its not getting any less expensive. It's getting less expensive for tourists though because the dollar has declined. What's the point of posting these stats? For tourists. They need a better indicator of salaries v costs. As it currently stands all these stats say is Australia's dollar is declining and the US dollar value is increasing.

I reckon Trabador doesn't know how to copy and paste a link

BTW. Beer is going down the fx rate list. Its saying 'come to Australia if you need a drink on US dollars". Even the PM is getting involved.

http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/prime-minister-tony-abbott-skols-a-beer-in-a-sydney-pub-20150418-1mo3ak.html

the troubadour Apr 19th 2015 12:17 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11622587)
Backing off I see

My post was in response to your's stating that Australia is the most expensive country in the world when it is patently not

Norway is a great country that has managed its resource very well (and we have not) and their SWF is a great example of this but Australia has over $2t in super which is basically there for the same thing. It will be over $5t in my lifetime

I know that as a leftie, you are going to say that super is shit as the state should provide for pensions but there it is. I'm on track for a pretty comfortable retirement - without the need to have state help. That's not important to you I know, but it is to me

I relay what The Age research showed. Not backing off by any means as Australia is bloody expensive for what it is. I doubt it matters whether Australia is top, it is very close to it. While super may sound the hottest game in town to right wingers , fact being of course is unlikely to continue being the rort it is at present into the future.
Besides that too tempting for a government to keep their hands of further down the track.

Norway of course pays all well. At least in that country one is assured the essential things in life so hasn't the same onus to save for old age or illness as in Australia.

the troubadour Apr 19th 2015 12:22 pm

Re: Aussie Aussie (moved from Welcome Inn)
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11623034)
That's the same report I posted. Different summary though. ..... and how it figures Australia is the most expensive country is beyond me. What because a 2 litre bottle of Coke is and bogans love 2 litres worth of Coke? How about petrol. On that list its got to be the biggest expense in most peoples lives. Australia certainly is not top. They also listed the minimum public transport fare. Well I don't know about the minimum but a weekly on Sydney Trains is a damn sight cheaper than a weekly on the London Underground. This is a bad stat. A minimum fare never hits the back pocket. A weekly does.

These stats prove one thing though. You'll see Australia going down the expensive list. But for us who live here its not getting any less expensive. It's getting less expensive for tourists though because the dollar has declined. What's the point of posting these stats? For tourists. They need a better indicator of salaries v costs. As it currently stands all these stats say is Australia's dollar is declining and the US dollar value is increasing.

I reckon Trabador doesn't know how to copy and paste a link

BTW. Beer is going down the fx rate list. Its saying 'come to Australia if you need a drink on US dollars". Even the PM is getting involved.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott skols a beer in a Sydney pub | smh.com.au

I reckon I don't need to prove a thing once giving a source. Whatever I have yet to meet a visitor to Australia that in any way thinks most anything is to be had at value.

Beoz Apr 19th 2015 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 11623111)
I doubt it matters whether Australia is top, it is very close to it.

Back pedalling all the way now.

Also

How are we doing with that stat about all the new jobs going to foreigners?


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