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Old Nov 22nd 2009, 7:24 pm
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I hope it falls soon
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As long as China stays wealthy so will OZ, China needs OZ's massive natural resources , thats why OZ is the only western country to advoid a recession and the best performing economy in the western world. in the USA unemployment is 10% and house prices crashing in OZ unemployment is 4% and house prices booming.

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Originally Posted by mohogony
As long as China stays wealthy so will OZ, China needs OZ's massive natural resources , thats why OZ is the only western country to advoid a recession and the best performing economy in the western world. in the USA unemployment is 10% and house prices crashing in OZ unemployment is 4% and house prices booming.
There appears to be some doubts about the true extent of recovery in China...

http://www.smh.com.au/business/doubt...1117-ij91.html

House prices booming in Oz because of China? I am not so sure. I think it is almost entirely fuelled by debt (and not mention the govt. handout/bribe/encouragement to inflate house prices higher) ......FHB taking extraordinarily huge loans with low down payments (at a time when interest rates bottomed) and buying houses they can ill afford.
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Whilst the economics of Australia are not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, when compared to the US and UK its positively coming up smelling of roses. I don't believe that is going to change any time soon.
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are you having a housing bubble in australia?
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Originally Posted by IndieG
House prices booming in Oz because of China? I am not so sure. I think it is almost entirely fuelled by debt (and not mention the govt. handout/bribe/encouragement to inflate house prices higher) ....
China may be playing a small part in it...

FORGET the "for sale" sign, the new catch-cry in Melbourne's leafy suburbs is "duoshao qian".

Leading agents say more than 30 per cent of their stock is bought by families from mainland China.
"This calendar year 34 per cent of our sales went to mainly Chinese buyers compared to 15 per cent last year. We're up 125 per cent overall,"

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Originally Posted by mohogony
As long as China stays wealthy so will OZ, China needs OZ's massive natural resources , thats why OZ is the only western country to advoid a recession and the best performing economy in the western world. in the USA unemployment is 10% and house prices crashing in OZ unemployment is 4% and house prices booming.
A case of too many eggs in the one basket,perhaps?
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Originally Posted by bobbarker12345
are you having a housing bubble in australia?
Some of us may well say. Still a lot of local punters feel it is the way to richness,with a belief that house prices double every decade. Rather an obsession here....
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
Some of us may well say. Still a lot of local punters feel it is the way to richness,with a belief that house prices double every decade. Rather an obsession here....

That and interest rates. I don't recall the rises and falls of interest rates being reported with such detailed examination back in the uk...


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I don't recall the rises and falls of interest rates being reported with such detailed examination back in the uk...


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I don't recall it being that bad here some years ago, but the last few years it has been particularly noticeable.
 
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I remember it being quite a big thing in the UK as well. MPC used to meet 1st Thursday of the month and it was definitely on the news that night.
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That and interest rates. I don't recall the rises and falls of interest rates being reported with such detailed examination back in the uk...


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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
China may be playing a small part in it...
How reliable is that data given that they're all reports from real estate agents (price rise on account of Chinese buyers who have become very active recently)? The reason I ask is that we had a very similar situation in Dubai - where agents were talking up prices and saying that cashed up Russians and Saudis were snapping up property (not to mention tales of money launderers with suitcases full of cash buying property) so prices would never fall....and we saw what happened there.

So are the Chinese really buying property, and if so, why?
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Originally Posted by IndieG
How reliable is that data given that they're all reports from real estate agents (price rise on account of Chinese buyers who have become very active recently)? The reason I ask is that we had a very similar situation in Dubai - where agents were talking up prices and saying that cashed up Russians and Saudis were snapping up property (not to mention tales of money launderers with suitcases full of cash buying property) so prices would never fall....and we saw what happened there.

So are the Chinese really buying property, and if so, why?
Obviously the reliability of anything in the news isn't 100% guaranteed, but with the recent government changes to allow overseas buyers to now purchase established homes, it does seem highly feasible.

The rules were changed to allow just this to happen, and now they say it has happened.

It sort of makes sense.
 
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I do.
Really? I remember it making the news, but it was usually only the second or third item in, and only given limited time.


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