AUS vs USA
Mar 4th 2009 | 3:53 pm
#16
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From: Toronto (the big city in Canada, not the town in New South Wales!)
Re: AUS vs USA
Originally Posted by Deutschmaster
and so what if most guns are used for hunting? Unless most hunters have the accuracy of Dick Cheney I'd say that most of the fatalities are due to gun crime.....It is interesting how different countries deal with gun crime. Most say to restrict usage in some way.
Restricting legal ownership amongst hunters has nothing to do with what criminals (who don't care about laws) would do with guns illegally.
Originally Posted by Deutschmaster
and don't you think that the government should do something about those bad inner city neighbourhoods - or will you dismiss that as a leftie argument that 'I don't live there why should I bother?'
. They will always exist, no matter what governments try to do.With your follow-up rant (Post #13) that goes far beyond what ddb (the original poster) was asking, you are clearly an anti-American bigot who has a vendetta against the U.S. - your credibility on being able to answer ddb's original question speaks for itself.
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Last edited by torcraw; Mar 4th 2009 at 3:57 pm.
Mar 4th 2009 | 3:56 pm
#17
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From: Brisbane
Re: AUS vs USA
That's a very negative biased statement. First of all, its an Island 30km off mainland, so isolated and contained. Second, its nearly double that distance to any populated area, Townsville (140k). That ratio is nonsense, since Washington DC has 600,000 population compared to Palm Island's 2,000 residents. The Island was used by the government for many years to send Aboriginals which they thought committed a crime. Comparing the capital city of the worlds most powerful country with Palm Island is most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Perhaps the population of Palm Island isn't statistically large enough to justify a comparison with Washington DC....or perhaps it is. But apart from that I don't see what's ridiculous about the original statement, which remains correct - Palm Island has a terrible crime record. Surprise surprise - it didn't make it into the Qld governments Q150 list of things for tourists to see/do around here.
Mar 4th 2009 | 4:22 pm
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Re: AUS vs USA
Canada, Finland, Switzerland, and France also have fairly high gun ownership rates amongst its citizens. Gun crime rates in these countries are nowhere close to what they are in the U.S.
Restricting legal ownership amongst hunters has nothing to do with what criminals (who don't care about laws) would do with guns illegally.
Just like how governments in the U.K., Australia, Canada, the European Union, and everywhere else in the world have done something about bad inner city neighourhoods <sarcasm>. They will always exist, no matter what governments try to do.
With your follow-up rant (Post #13) that goes far beyond what ddb (the original poster) was asking, you are clearly an anti-American bigot who has a vendetta against the U.S. - your credibility on being able to answer ddb's original question speaks for itself.
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Restricting legal ownership amongst hunters has nothing to do with what criminals (who don't care about laws) would do with guns illegally.
Just like how governments in the U.K., Australia, Canada, the European Union, and everywhere else in the world have done something about bad inner city neighourhoods <sarcasm>
. They will always exist, no matter what governments try to do.With your follow-up rant (Post #13) that goes far beyond what ddb (the original poster) was asking, you are clearly an anti-American bigot who has a vendetta against the U.S. - your credibility on being able to answer ddb's original question speaks for itself.
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Just because I have expressed an opinion about American society doesn't mean that I am Anti-American. I have given specific instances what I found difficult to comprehend about US society and it makes me laugh how rather than think about them all you can do is respond with abuse. And before anybody asks - yes I am perfectly willing to consider negative opinions about my own society. In fact it can be good hearing opinions of outsiders because there are too many things in a society that one just accepts because they were born into it and it takes an outside to point them out.
By the way your quote of 'Canada, Finland, Switzerland, and France also have fairly high gun ownership rates amongst its citizens. Gun crime rates in these countries are nowhere close to what they are in the U.S.' somewhat support my view that gun crime is somewhat high in the states?
