Is Aus realy that different from UK
#76
Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
I'm no 'bleeding heart liberal' however I do object to people who consider moving country to better their standard of living being labelled as 'shit', especially on a forum like this! I'm not denying there are issues, but I maintain the vast majority make a positive contribution.
#77
Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
There was a good piece in the Sunday Times this week doing a comparisson between UK and Oz due to the large amounts of brits leaving - over 23000 last year.
According to its stats, pay is higher in Oz, housing is considerably cheaper and costs for things like food are cheaper.
While still in UK, but having spent many hours trawling the web before we leave in May, i would say housing is cheaper.
For example, we live in Leicester - not exactly the centre of the universe our small 2 bed house in a VERY rough area, (red light district with really high crime and several homeless and bail hostels) that needs a lot of work doing has just been valued at £135k. Thats over $270000. We have being looking for rental appartments in Sydney for $400 per week and are fairly happy with what we can get for that, we would struggle to get a decent place in Leicester for that and dont even think about getting somewhere in London for that
Then there are things like fuel - £1.04 in the UK but £0.70 in Oz. My perceprion therefore is that while some things are more expensive, others arent.
According to its stats, pay is higher in Oz, housing is considerably cheaper and costs for things like food are cheaper.
While still in UK, but having spent many hours trawling the web before we leave in May, i would say housing is cheaper.
For example, we live in Leicester - not exactly the centre of the universe our small 2 bed house in a VERY rough area, (red light district with really high crime and several homeless and bail hostels) that needs a lot of work doing has just been valued at £135k. Thats over $270000. We have being looking for rental appartments in Sydney for $400 per week and are fairly happy with what we can get for that, we would struggle to get a decent place in Leicester for that and dont even think about getting somewhere in London for that
Then there are things like fuel - £1.04 in the UK but £0.70 in Oz. My perceprion therefore is that while some things are more expensive, others arent.
#78
Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
There was a good piece in the Sunday Times this week doing a comparisson between UK and Oz due to the large amounts of brits leaving - over 23000 last year.
According to its stats, pay is higher in Oz, housing is considerably cheaper and costs for things like food are cheaper.
While still in UK, but having spent many hours trawling the web before we leave in May, i would say housing is cheaper.
For example, we live in Leicester - not exactly the centre of the universe our small 2 bed house in a VERY rough area, (red light district with really high crime and several homeless and bail hostels) that needs a lot of work doing has just been valued at £135k. Thats over $270000. We have being looking for rental appartments in Sydney for $400 per week and are fairly happy with what we can get for that, we would struggle to get a decent place in Leicester for that and dont even think about getting somewhere in London for that
Then there are things like fuel - £1.04 in the UK but £0.70 in Oz. My perceprion therefore is that while some things are more expensive, others arent.
According to its stats, pay is higher in Oz, housing is considerably cheaper and costs for things like food are cheaper.
While still in UK, but having spent many hours trawling the web before we leave in May, i would say housing is cheaper.
For example, we live in Leicester - not exactly the centre of the universe our small 2 bed house in a VERY rough area, (red light district with really high crime and several homeless and bail hostels) that needs a lot of work doing has just been valued at £135k. Thats over $270000. We have being looking for rental appartments in Sydney for $400 per week and are fairly happy with what we can get for that, we would struggle to get a decent place in Leicester for that and dont even think about getting somewhere in London for that
Then there are things like fuel - £1.04 in the UK but £0.70 in Oz. My perceprion therefore is that while some things are more expensive, others arent.
Useful tip No 38,596 - whilst in the UK, earning UK pounds, do NOT convert and assume things are cheaper in Aus. They're not and the Sunday Times is crap for coming out with such nonsense.
#79
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Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
This whole thread has made me laugh... people from the UK leaving for Australia as they have had enough of migrants in their home country....Australia like all new world countries has been developed on Migration...Australias migrationn history comes from....Greece...Italy... Croatia...Germany...Holland....oh and the UK and everywhere in between and is a lot better for this diversity.
Oh yes a lot of Asian migrants at the moment... arent you lucky...possibly the most pleasant family orientated people you will meet on the planet.
Long live Australia's diveristy and remember you are migrants too!!!!
Oh yes a lot of Asian migrants at the moment... arent you lucky...possibly the most pleasant family orientated people you will meet on the planet.
Long live Australia's diveristy and remember you are migrants too!!!!
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Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
No offence but your research is not the best. If you don't have much equity in your UK home and your work here pays normal wages, those property prices are on a par or higher than in the UK. What you see on the net very often bears no relation to what you see in the flesh. Secondly, fuel may convert to 70p but when you are earning Aus wages it's $120 +/- and thats an end to it. Converting whilst in the UK is something everyone does and is the one thing no body should do - basically it means sod all In QLD fuel is relatively (to the rest of the country) cheap but considering the amount of mileage you cover for just basic stuff, together with the wages, it's high.
Useful tip No 38,596 - whilst in the UK, earning UK pounds, do NOT convert and assume things are cheaper in Aus. They're not and the Sunday Times is crap for coming out with such nonsense.
Useful tip No 38,596 - whilst in the UK, earning UK pounds, do NOT convert and assume things are cheaper in Aus. They're not and the Sunday Times is crap for coming out with such nonsense.
#81
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Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
THank you Paul and Nic....no wonder some people cant integrate!!!
#83
Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
Australia may be following US instructions very well but it doesnt seem to become US (no way). Australia is a outback place with only Sydney and Melbourne (as business hubs).It has less oppurtunities/less business as compared with US.
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Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
No offence but your research is not the best. If you don't have much equity in your UK home and your work here pays normal wages, those property prices are on a par or higher than in the UK. What you see on the net very often bears no relation to what you see in the flesh. Secondly, fuel may convert to 70p but when you are earning Aus wages it's $120 +/- and thats an end to it. Converting whilst in the UK is something everyone does and is the one thing no body should do - basically it means sod all In QLD fuel is relatively (to the rest of the country) cheap but considering the amount of mileage you cover for just basic stuff, together with the wages, it's high.
Useful tip No 38,596 - whilst in the UK, earning UK pounds, do NOT convert and assume things are cheaper in Aus. They're not and the Sunday Times is crap for coming out with such nonsense.
Useful tip No 38,596 - whilst in the UK, earning UK pounds, do NOT convert and assume things are cheaper in Aus. They're not and the Sunday Times is crap for coming out with such nonsense.
As for the article I was wondering when someone would pick up on that.
It started all positive and dreamy (I thought here we go) but resumed and finished on a serious note - and did mention negatives. It also mentioned that some older (good/bad) Australian values are being replaced by newer ones (good/bad).
#85
Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
No offence but your research is not the best. If you don't have much equity in your UK home and your work here pays normal wages, those property prices are on a par or higher than in the UK. What you see on the net very often bears no relation to what you see in the flesh. Secondly, fuel may convert to 70p but when you are earning Aus wages it's $120 +/- and thats an end to it. Converting whilst in the UK is something everyone does and is the one thing no body should do - basically it means sod all In QLD fuel is relatively (to the rest of the country) cheap but considering the amount of mileage you cover for just basic stuff, together with the wages, it's high.
Useful tip No 38,596 - whilst in the UK, earning UK pounds, do NOT convert and assume things are cheaper in Aus. They're not and the Sunday Times is crap for coming out with such nonsense.
Useful tip No 38,596 - whilst in the UK, earning UK pounds, do NOT convert and assume things are cheaper in Aus. They're not and the Sunday Times is crap for coming out with such nonsense.
The times stats by the way are the oficial stats produced by Oz and UK goverments.
#86
Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
This whole thread has made me laugh... people from the UK leaving for Australia as they have had enough of migrants in their home country....Australia like all new world countries has been developed on Migration...Australias migrationn history comes from....Greece...Italy... Croatia...Germany...Holland....oh and the UK and everywhere in between and is a lot better for this diversity.
Oh yes a lot of Asian migrants at the moment... arent you lucky...possibly the most pleasant family orientated people you will meet on the planet.
Long live Australia's diveristy and remember you are migrants too!!!!
Oh yes a lot of Asian migrants at the moment... arent you lucky...possibly the most pleasant family orientated people you will meet on the planet.
Long live Australia's diveristy and remember you are migrants too!!!!
Spot on, Couldn't have put it better myself.
I will add a very very clear statement to this, If people are coming here to get away from foreign Culture in their country..... Dont... this country eventually will be influenced very heavily by Asia. Personally I'm comfortable with that... especially if they do it with Aussie accents, which is my experience of Asian Migrants.
Last edited by ozzieeagle; Feb 25th 2008 at 11:04 am.
#87
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Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
I think OZ is completely different to UK. Especially the weather.
#88
Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
Possibly true, for once Smurtaza, however your overlooking one thing, that the relativity to its neighbours and place in the world. Australia is almost certainly the strongest Power economically, Politically, and Socially in the Southern Hemisphere, and expanding still at a fantastic rate, it wont be going backwards but catching up to and possibly overtaking bigger nations as its blistering pace of growth carries it forwards... A long way to go, but this country is still destined to be a major player in future world decisions. We've got to take in a hell of a lot of Migrants from Asia before that sorts itself out though.
#89
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Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
Possibly true, for once Smurtaza, however your overlooking one thing, that the relativity to its neighbours and place in the world. Australia is almost certainly the strongest Power economically, Politically, and Socially in the Southern Hemisphere, and expanding still at a fantastic rate, it wont be going backwards but catching up to and possibly overtaking bigger nations as its blistering pace of growth carries it forwards... A long way to go, but this country is still destined to be a major player in future world decisions. We've got to take in a hell of a lot of Migrants from Asia before that sorts itself out though.
#90
Re: Is Aus realy that different from UK
Don't underestimate the influence of China, the fastest growing economy in the world. China is building at the rate of a city the size of Perth every 4 weeks. It is absorbing money, resources and expertise from all over the world and is on the way to being a very powerful and influential nation.