Anyone in the SES
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by hindon
what is a support brigade, is it like retained in the uk?
are the brigades full time or on call in brisbane?
are the brigades full time or on call in brisbane?
Im talking volunteers not paid firefighters.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
thanks for the info.Do you have to be a member first before becoming a full time firefighter, or are the jobs very limited and do they not come up very often?
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by hindon
thanks for the info.Do you have to be a member first before becoming a full time firefighter, or are the jobs very limited and do they not come up very often?
I guess it might help your application but, a bit like the UK, the competition to become a paid firefighter is huge and the pay is pretty crap. So much so that most of them have second jobs (they work 4 days on 4 days off).
Just to add to the confusion there are also CALM firefighting units too (Conservation and Land Management), so at a major bush fire you'll see CALM firefighters, F&R fire fighters, Volunteer firefighters. Throw in up to 6 helicopters a couple of fixed wing bombers, a bunch of council bulldozers, graders and front end loaders in to the mix and you'll get an idea of what goes on at a big bush fire.
Check out our web page http://www.wanneroobfb.org.au/ - go to "Image Gallery" and have a look at "Burns Beach Fire 19/20 February 2006"
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Hi Renth just been told i have to go for profile testing and physical tests in June with FESA. :scared:
Do you have any advice?
I'm in the UK and land in oz 1st June.
Wish me luck
task
Do you have any advice?
I'm in the UK and land in oz 1st June.
Wish me luck
task
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by task
Hi Renth just been told i have to go for profile testing and physical tests in June with FESA. :scared:
Do you have any advice?
I'm in the UK and land in oz 1st June.
Wish me luck
task
Do you have any advice?
I'm in the UK and land in oz 1st June.
Wish me luck
task
I don't really know what advice to give other than most blokes have to apply quite a few times before they get in so don't get too disapointed if you don't make it first time.
I think being a fireman in the UK will definitely be a plus.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by renth
Nice one mate. You'll be having the profile tests here at my workplace - UWA.
I don't really know what advice to give other than most blokes have to apply quite a few times before they get in so don't get too disapointed if you don't make it first time.
I think being a fireman in the UK will definitely be a plus.
I don't really know what advice to give other than most blokes have to apply quite a few times before they get in so don't get too disapointed if you don't make it first time.
I think being a fireman in the UK will definitely be a plus.
#22
Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by task
Cheers I'll keep you posted on the result.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Some blokes are known to apply every year as 'Staff' and have been for a while.
Victoria has MFB Metropolitan Fire Brigade - paid up pros.
Country Fire Authority has a 2 tier system. Paid "Staff" who staff key stations of high risk or on the urban/semi-rural interface. If you look on the Melways the MFB/CFA boundary is marked. In one direction, it's around Springvale - 20k? out.
Stations at Boronia, Springvale, Frankston, Dandenong, Hallam (the first that spring to mind) are semi-fully manned. The volunteers augment the staff on the secondary appliances (or the Teleboom etc) or respond direct in their personal vehs. Each brigade has Operating Procedures which dictate the response to each type of paged incident. eg a grass and scrub, MVA, 'Incident' (could be anything - cat up tree, siege).
Selection for fulltime CFA is competitive; maybe not quite like MFB.
The other brigades are all vols. Urban brigades or Rural. Some are pretty big, eg Berwick, Carrum Downs, Noble Park and go to 700 calls a year, some rural mobs are lucky to respond to 50 odd a year - one a week. The crux of it is that these brigades are still the 3rd Emergency Service and although some of the remote brigades are 'laid back' and a bit of a worry they also have to respond and respond within a few minutes:
I couldn't find my glasses the other night, everything went wrong, couldn't find my ignition key on the key ring(duh), couldn't find the bedroom door in the dark, forgot my structural helmet another bloke exited and locked via his laundry door, forgetting his son had blocked the entrance with his motorbike and has to unlock and reenter.. all the usual suspects responded late. If we are late past a certain no of minutes we get paged again and will show up as a stat somewhere on the records. Slapped wrists.
Most of the time we are bang on our targets, it's like Connex.
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Victoria has MFB Metropolitan Fire Brigade - paid up pros.
Country Fire Authority has a 2 tier system. Paid "Staff" who staff key stations of high risk or on the urban/semi-rural interface. If you look on the Melways the MFB/CFA boundary is marked. In one direction, it's around Springvale - 20k? out.
Stations at Boronia, Springvale, Frankston, Dandenong, Hallam (the first that spring to mind) are semi-fully manned. The volunteers augment the staff on the secondary appliances (or the Teleboom etc) or respond direct in their personal vehs. Each brigade has Operating Procedures which dictate the response to each type of paged incident. eg a grass and scrub, MVA, 'Incident' (could be anything - cat up tree, siege).
Selection for fulltime CFA is competitive; maybe not quite like MFB.
The other brigades are all vols. Urban brigades or Rural. Some are pretty big, eg Berwick, Carrum Downs, Noble Park and go to 700 calls a year, some rural mobs are lucky to respond to 50 odd a year - one a week. The crux of it is that these brigades are still the 3rd Emergency Service and although some of the remote brigades are 'laid back' and a bit of a worry they also have to respond and respond within a few minutes:
I couldn't find my glasses the other night, everything went wrong, couldn't find my ignition key on the key ring(duh), couldn't find the bedroom door in the dark, forgot my structural helmet another bloke exited and locked via his laundry door, forgetting his son had blocked the entrance with his motorbike and has to unlock and reenter.. all the usual suspects responded late. If we are late past a certain no of minutes we get paged again and will show up as a stat somewhere on the records. Slapped wrists.
Most of the time we are bang on our targets, it's like Connex.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Like WA, there is also a rural bush in the middle of nowhere mob, and a govt agency that also fight fires - the well renowned Department of Sustainability and Environment (this one might be Federal) otherwise known as the Department of Scorched Earth.
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I remember asking this question myself about a year ago. I'm going to apply to join the RFS - I already know a couple of the guys and a good friend of mine is the head of the larger local retained fire service. I was on the verge of joining our little fire crew here in the UK, but the Australia thing happened - I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
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Also, let's be honest, chicks much prefer firies over SES.
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Also, let's be honest, chicks much prefer firies over SES.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
One of the fun parts of joining the SES is that you get to sit around during bush fires waiting for the hot food to go cold before delivering it to the CFA. You then say that you had problems finding them.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by MartinLuther
One of the fun parts of joining the SES is that you get to sit around during bush fires waiting for the hot food to go cold before delivering it to the CFA. You then say that you had problems finding them.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
Luckily we have our own food vans. We also carry ration packs on our vehicles, and have the means to make a brew and hot water.
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Re: Anyone in the SES
Originally Posted by MartinLuther
One of the fun parts of joining the SES is that you get to sit around during bush fires waiting for the hot food to go cold before delivering it to the CFA. You then say that you had problems finding them.