Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
Jul 13th 2007, 1:14 am
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Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
Hi.
Our two year old boy was diagnosed with a possible "null ear" this morning and my wife didn't ask the doctor to expand on what this actually is as he was reluctant to do so due to the fact that it's not his area of expertise.
The reason we took him is because we wanted to know why his speech was not developing beyond babble and the occasional word.
Does anyone know what "null ear" actually is in medical terms or laymans terms?
What makes me really angry is that a while ago we asked a doctor the exact same questions and this particular one simply stated that all children develop at different rates without actually investigating further the actual issue.
GPs.....Arghhhhhhhh!
Our two year old boy was diagnosed with a possible "null ear" this morning and my wife didn't ask the doctor to expand on what this actually is as he was reluctant to do so due to the fact that it's not his area of expertise.
The reason we took him is because we wanted to know why his speech was not developing beyond babble and the occasional word.
Does anyone know what "null ear" actually is in medical terms or laymans terms?
What makes me really angry is that a while ago we asked a doctor the exact same questions and this particular one simply stated that all children develop at different rates without actually investigating further the actual issue.
GPs.....Arghhhhhhhh!
Jul 13th 2007, 1:24 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
maybe he said "dull ear"
a link: http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40000931/
I hope you sort it out soon
a link: http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40000931/
I hope you sort it out soon
Last edited by walaj; Jul 13th 2007 at 1:34 am. Reason: this link seems more factual
Jul 13th 2007, 1:40 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
maybe he said "dull ear"
a link: http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40000931/
I hope you sort it out soon
a link: http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40000931/
I hope you sort it out soon
Jul 13th 2007, 2:03 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
My lad has been diagnosed with Glue Ear. We took him to a specialist in the UK about 18 months ago as his speech wasnt developing and they diagnosed it then and told me the best course of treatment is is grommits, but they dont do them until they are 8 (he was 2 at that point).
I took him to a specialist here 3 weeks ago to monitor it and they said he needs grommits and asked why the docs in the UK didnt do it 18 months ago. I told them about the 8 year old thing the NHS has and they laughed. Apparently they do it on babies here and the doc couldnt believe that the NHS would let a development issue fester for so long. Long story short, we have another appointment next week with a specialist and they look at getting him in for the Op. Thank god for private cover.
The NHS sucks in comparison.
I took him to a specialist here 3 weeks ago to monitor it and they said he needs grommits and asked why the docs in the UK didnt do it 18 months ago. I told them about the 8 year old thing the NHS has and they laughed. Apparently they do it on babies here and the doc couldnt believe that the NHS would let a development issue fester for so long. Long story short, we have another appointment next week with a specialist and they look at getting him in for the Op. Thank god for private cover.
The NHS sucks in comparison.
Jul 13th 2007, 2:09 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
My lad has been diagnosed with Glue Ear. We took him to a specialist in the UK about 18 months ago as his speech wasnt developing and they diagnosed it then and told me the best course of treatment is is grommits, but they dont do them until they are 8 (he was 2 at that point).
I took him to a specialist here 3 weeks ago to monitor it and they said he needs grommits and asked why the docs in the UK didnt do it 18 months ago. I told them about the 8 year old thing the NHS has and they laughed. Apparently they do it on babies here and the doc couldnt believe that the NHS would let a development issue fester for so long. Long story short, we have another appointment next week with a specialist and they look at getting him in for the Op. Thank god for private cover.
The NHS sucks in comparison.
I took him to a specialist here 3 weeks ago to monitor it and they said he needs grommits and asked why the docs in the UK didnt do it 18 months ago. I told them about the 8 year old thing the NHS has and they laughed. Apparently they do it on babies here and the doc couldnt believe that the NHS would let a development issue fester for so long. Long story short, we have another appointment next week with a specialist and they look at getting him in for the Op. Thank god for private cover.
The NHS sucks in comparison.
Jul 13th 2007, 2:19 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
My lad has been diagnosed with Glue Ear. We took him to a specialist in the UK about 18 months ago as his speech wasnt developing and they diagnosed it then and told me the best course of treatment is is grommits, but they dont do them until they are 8 (he was 2 at that point).
I took him to a specialist here 3 weeks ago to monitor it and they said he needs grommits and asked why the docs in the UK didnt do it 18 months ago. I told them about the 8 year old thing the NHS has and they laughed. Apparently they do it on babies here and the doc couldnt believe that the NHS would let a development issue fester for so long. Long story short, we have another appointment next week with a specialist and they look at getting him in for the Op. Thank god for private cover.
The NHS sucks in comparison.
I took him to a specialist here 3 weeks ago to monitor it and they said he needs grommits and asked why the docs in the UK didnt do it 18 months ago. I told them about the 8 year old thing the NHS has and they laughed. Apparently they do it on babies here and the doc couldnt believe that the NHS would let a development issue fester for so long. Long story short, we have another appointment next week with a specialist and they look at getting him in for the Op. Thank god for private cover.
The NHS sucks in comparison.
Jul 13th 2007, 2:22 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
My lad has been diagnosed with Glue Ear. We took him to a specialist in the UK about 18 months ago as his speech wasnt developing and they diagnosed it then and told me the best course of treatment is is grommits, but they dont do them until they are 8 (he was 2 at that point).
I took him to a specialist here 3 weeks ago to monitor it and they said he needs grommits and asked why the docs in the UK didnt do it 18 months ago. I told them about the 8 year old thing the NHS has and they laughed. Apparently they do it on babies here and the doc couldnt believe that the NHS would let a development issue fester for so long. Long story short, we have another appointment next week with a specialist and they look at getting him in for the Op. Thank god for private cover.
The NHS sucks in comparison.
I took him to a specialist here 3 weeks ago to monitor it and they said he needs grommits and asked why the docs in the UK didnt do it 18 months ago. I told them about the 8 year old thing the NHS has and they laughed. Apparently they do it on babies here and the doc couldnt believe that the NHS would let a development issue fester for so long. Long story short, we have another appointment next week with a specialist and they look at getting him in for the Op. Thank god for private cover.
The NHS sucks in comparison.
Still having on going problems with the youngest ,waiting for 5 months for surgery (not grommets though) through the public system in Oz. Due to it being a pre-existing complaint its not covered by private insurance.
OP- I would say its definetely a "dull" ear.
Jul 13th 2007, 2:25 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
I guess it depends on your doctor as both of my children had glue ear, treated with grommets aged 3 1/2 and 4 with a 4 month wait on the NHS.
Still having on going problems with the youngest ,waiting for 5 months for surgery (not grommets though) through the public system in Oz. Due to it being a pre-existing complaint its not covered by private insurance.
OP- I would say its definetely a "dull" ear.
Still having on going problems with the youngest ,waiting for 5 months for surgery (not grommets though) through the public system in Oz. Due to it being a pre-existing complaint its not covered by private insurance.
OP- I would say its definetely a "dull" ear.
Our last day for signing up to government private medical (before the 31+ surcharge kicks in) is Sunday as this will be our one year anniversary.
Jul 13th 2007, 2:42 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
Not too sure what the difference is between "state private medical or true private medical" - sorry.
If you read some of the midwifes comments regarding public/ private then you'll realise that private isn't always "best".
Good luck re. the hearing problem - we have had 8 years of trying to sort them out !
Jul 13th 2007, 2:58 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
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Jul 13th 2007, 3:07 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
The difference I think is about waiting times and enviroment - I don't think the level of care is any better.
Jul 13th 2007, 3:59 am
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Jul 13th 2007, 4:13 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
Glue ear usually rights itself once the childs head has grown and the opening of the eustation tube increases. Some research say after the age of five
There are actually large studies on the effectiveness of using gromots
http://meds.queensu.ca/capre/ear_infection/reading.html
"Assessment of seven year old children who had ear infections when they were between three and five found that children who had ear tubes inserted had poorer hearing than children who did not."
Having said this I had my daughter fitted with grommets at two, they had wanted to do it earlier but I wanted to wait because of the general she would have to under for surgery. My daughter was already partially deaf and on low dose long term antibiotics for ear infections. My four year old boy also had his done at the same time as his hearing had significantly reduced.
I have a friend who is completely deaf in one ear because of grommet operations and repeated infections causing scar tissue to form.
It isn't a straightforward decision. I did a lot of research to check and hope I was making the right decision at the time for my children.
There are actually large studies on the effectiveness of using gromots
http://meds.queensu.ca/capre/ear_infection/reading.html
"Assessment of seven year old children who had ear infections when they were between three and five found that children who had ear tubes inserted had poorer hearing than children who did not."
Having said this I had my daughter fitted with grommets at two, they had wanted to do it earlier but I wanted to wait because of the general she would have to under for surgery. My daughter was already partially deaf and on low dose long term antibiotics for ear infections. My four year old boy also had his done at the same time as his hearing had significantly reduced.
I have a friend who is completely deaf in one ear because of grommet operations and repeated infections causing scar tissue to form.
It isn't a straightforward decision. I did a lot of research to check and hope I was making the right decision at the time for my children.
Jul 13th 2007, 4:15 am
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Re: Anyone know what a "Null Ear" is?
Glue ear usually rights itself once the childs head has grown and the opening of the eustation tube increases. Some research say after the age of five
There are actually large studies on the effectiveness of using gromots
http://meds.queensu.ca/capre/ear_infection/reading.html
"Assessment of seven year old children who had ear infections when they were between three and five found that children who had ear tubes inserted had poorer hearing than children who did not."
Having said this I had my daughter fitted with grommets at two, they had wanted to do it earlier but I wanted to wait because of the general she would have to under for surgery. My daughter was already partially deaf and on low dose long term antibiotics for ear infections. My four year old boy also had his done at the same time as his hearing had significantly reduced.
I have a friend who is completely deaf in one ear because of grommet operations and repeated infections causing scar tissue to form.
It isn't a straightforward decision. I did a lot of research to check and hope I was making the right decision at the time for my children.
There are actually large studies on the effectiveness of using gromots
http://meds.queensu.ca/capre/ear_infection/reading.html
"Assessment of seven year old children who had ear infections when they were between three and five found that children who had ear tubes inserted had poorer hearing than children who did not."
Having said this I had my daughter fitted with grommets at two, they had wanted to do it earlier but I wanted to wait because of the general she would have to under for surgery. My daughter was already partially deaf and on low dose long term antibiotics for ear infections. My four year old boy also had his done at the same time as his hearing had significantly reduced.
I have a friend who is completely deaf in one ear because of grommet operations and repeated infections causing scar tissue to form.
It isn't a straightforward decision. I did a lot of research to check and hope I was making the right decision at the time for my children.
Does the child ever learn to speak correctly if left unattended?