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Wave the Sails Dec 21st 2004 8:35 pm

Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
I don't mean this to be a contentious issue, but was just wondering, in your individual opinions which areas of Perth would be best avoided.

My goodness, I cannot believe that we've been talking about moving to Oz for over three years now, and it's actually going to happen soon :eek: , and we have no idea where we are going to live. If we had location dependent jobs it would be a darned sight easier.

I would like to be near the usual, good shops, childcare, restaurants, PEOPLE!!

Thanks all, would love to hear your views (ok they might be biased but I still want to hear them!)

PS What is that area between Hillary's and Scarborough. Personally I liked Hillary's in an ironic Stepford Wives kind of way :rolleyes:

PommieLeague Dec 21st 2004 9:15 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by The Jones Family
I don't mean this to be a contentious issue, but was just wondering, in your individual opinions which areas of Perth would be best avoided.

My goodness, I cannot believe that we've been talking about moving to Oz for over three years now, and it's actually going to happen soon :eek: , and we have no idea where we are going to live. If we had location dependent jobs it would be a darned sight easier.

I would like to be near the usual, good shops, childcare, restaurants, PEOPLE!!

Thanks all, would love to hear your views (ok they might be biased but I still want to hear them!)

PS What is that area between Hillary's and Scarborough. Personally I liked Hillary's in an ironic Stepford Wives kind of way :rolleyes:

Girrawheen, Mirrabooka, Ballajurra, Balga, Westminster, Alexander Heights are favourable suburbs and cheap house prices for Perth. :D

Wave the Sails Dec 21st 2004 9:25 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Lathlain
Girrawheen, Mirrabooka, Ballajurra, Balga, Westminster, Alexander Heights are favourable suburbs and cheap house prices for Perth. :D


Thanks so much for that

Siren & Brian Dec 21st 2004 10:08 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Lathlain
Girrawheen, Mirrabooka, Ballajurra, Balga, Westminster, Alexander Heights are favourable suburbs and cheap house prices for Perth. :D


Dont forget Koondoola

Wave the Sails Dec 21st 2004 10:11 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Siren
Dont forget Koondoola

To avoid or consider

TraceyW Dec 21st 2004 10:18 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
I can only advise on the Northern suburbs of Perth that I know about, and it obviously all depends on budget.

Nice/good areas; Hillarys, Kallaroo, Mullaloo, Ocean Reef, Mindarie, Currumbine, Iluka, Carramar.

It all depends on personal choice. I would suggest that you rent and use it as your base, then you can mooch around at your leisure to get a feel for the place.

After all, one mans pleasure is another mans poison! :)

Go Banana's !! Dec 21st 2004 10:26 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
Landsdale gets my vote as we are building there :D

Jill

Siren & Brian Dec 21st 2004 11:19 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Go Banana's !!
Landsdale gets my vote as we are building there :D

Jill


Ummmm forgot to mention Lansdale, another suburb to miss, lots of Fruit/Banana cakes moving in there soon

maggy Dec 22nd 2004 12:22 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Siren
Ummmm forgot to mention Lansdale, another suburb to miss, lots of Fruit/Banana cakes moving in there soon


Dont forget Duncraig

jensteve Dec 22nd 2004 12:45 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by maggy
Dont forget Duncraig


Padbury is quite nice also.
Jenny

sophia Dec 22nd 2004 1:51 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Lathlain
Girrawheen, Mirrabooka, Ballajurra, Balga, Westminster, Alexander Heights are favourable suburbs and cheap house prices for Perth. :D

hiya lathlain

Are you sure about these suburbs? I don't want to start an arguement about suburbs cos I live down Rockingham and have no first hand knowledge of them "ooop north" but I remembered a thread by a old poster called Perth Helena which (admittedly was a year or so ago now) told another poster to avoid almost all those suburbs you just mentioned! :confused:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110995

love sophia xx

Siren & Brian Dec 22nd 2004 2:02 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by sophia
hiya lathlain

Are you sure about these suburbs? I don't want to start an arguement about suburbs cos I live down Rockingham and have no first hand knowledge of them "ooop north" but I remembered a thread by a old poster called Perth Helena which (admittedly was a year or so ago now) told another poster to avoid almost all those suburbs you just mentioned! :confused:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110995

love sophia xx

I think he was being sarcastic... as was my hubby when he suggested Koondoola...lol.
Then the landsdale and Duncraig were jibes at the Banana's (as they are building there) and Duncraig was a return jibe at Brian because we live there... are we following?? LOL (Cause even I'm confused...hahah)

In other words... AVOID all those suburbs Lathlaine and Brian mentioned first. Landsdale and Duncraig are in fact very nice suburbs near Padbury and Hillarys.

Siren

sophia Dec 22nd 2004 2:26 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Siren
I think he was being sarcastic... as was my hubby when he suggested Koondoola...lol.
Then the landsdale and Duncraig were jibes at the Banana's (as they are building there) and Duncraig was a return jibe at Brian because we live there... are we following?? LOL (Cause even I'm confused...hahah)

In other words... AVOID all those suburbs Lathlaine and Brian mentioned first. Landsdale and Duncraig are in fact very nice suburbs near Padbury and Hillarys.

Siren

oh ok....I think! I thought it was a bit odd!!...so does that mean that the OP knows to avoid those suburbs then? :confused: :confused:

love sophia x

odaat Dec 22nd 2004 5:42 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
As for the Northern suburbs,
Anything to the left of the Wanneroo Road ( coastal side) is good.
A bit dodgy on the right side of the Wanneroo Road ( hills side ).

Established suburbs I recommend are :-
Greenwood, Kingsley, Duncraig, Hillarys, Woodvale

But then again I am biased as I own or owned properties in the above suburbs.
odaat

Go Banana's !! Dec 22nd 2004 9:55 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by odaat
As for the Northern suburbs,
Anything to the left of the Wanneroo Road ( coastal side) is good.
A bit dodgy on the right side of the Wanneroo Road ( hills side ).

Established suburbs I recommend are :-
Greenwood, Kingsley, Duncraig, Hillarys, Woodvale

But then again I am biased as I own or owned properties in the above suburbs.
odaat


Thats a poor guideline as Landsdale is to the right of Wanneroo Road and I would certainly not say it was dodgy !

Warren

TraceyW Dec 22nd 2004 11:38 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Go Banana's !!
Thats a poor guideline as Landsdale is to the right of Wanneroo Road and I would certainly not say it was dodgy !

Warren

Agree. We live in Carramar, nowt wrong the place!

Vegemite Kids Dec 22nd 2004 12:07 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
South of the River some good suburbs are Kensington, Vic Park (west of Albany Highway) East Vic Park (although there are certain streets to avoid), Karrawarra, Salter point, Rossmoyne, Attadale (Gorgeous but v.expensive) Applecross, Mt Pleasant, and East Fremantle. These suburbs are all on or v.near the river.

Como is good also but mainly units or townhouses, actual houses are normally expensive cos there's not that many.

Inland a bit near/on the hills and also good are Gooseberry Hill, Kalamunda, Lesmurdie & Roleystone

Stay away from Bentley, St James and Queens Park. Also would not recommend Thornlie. (Queens Park is the dodgiest perth suburb and should be avoided at all costs) Also would avoid any of the Kwinana suburbs (Orelia, Parmelia, medina etc..) These suburbs are cheap for a reason !!!!!! (lots of drugs + Homeswest)

renth Dec 22nd 2004 2:20 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
Some good rules of thumb. As Odaat said Northern suburbs, west of Marmion better than right of Marmion.

Easy acronym for suburbs to avoid - KGB, (Koondoola, Girraween, Balga) although parts of Blaga are now called Westminster, don't be fooled.

PommieLeague Dec 23rd 2004 12:46 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Siren
I think he was being sarcastic... as was my hubby when he suggested Koondoola...lol.
Then the landsdale and Duncraig were jibes at the Banana's (as they are building there) and Duncraig was a return jibe at Brian because we live there... are we following?? LOL (Cause even I'm confused...hahah)

In other words... AVOID all those suburbs Lathlaine and Brian mentioned first. Landsdale and Duncraig are in fact very nice suburbs near Padbury and Hillarys.

Siren

Do you mind Siren, there is no 'e' in Lathlain!!! Honestly! :D

PommieLeague Dec 23rd 2004 12:48 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Vegemite Kids
South of the River some good suburbs are Kensington, Vic Park (west of Albany Highway) East Vic Park (although there are certain streets to avoid), Karrawarra, Salter point, Rossmoyne, Attadale (Gorgeous but v.expensive) Applecross, Mt Pleasant, and East Fremantle. These suburbs are all on or v.near the river.

Como is good also but mainly units or townhouses, actual houses are normally expensive cos there's not that many.

Inland a bit near/on the hills and also good are Gooseberry Hill, Kalamunda, Lesmurdie & Roleystone

Stay away from Bentley, St James and Queens Park. Also would not recommend Thornlie. (Queens Park is the dodgiest perth suburb and should be avoided at all costs) Also would avoid any of the Kwinana suburbs (Orelia, Parmelia, medina etc..) These suburbs are cheap for a reason !!!!!! (lots of drugs + Homeswest)

You missed out Lathlain as a good suburb, Mairi :( :D

Wave the Sails Dec 23rd 2004 1:52 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
Thanks very much everyone............

Hope to meet you all at some point?? :)

janeyray Dec 23rd 2004 4:00 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
To the 'average' Brit travelling to Perth to live I think there more likely to be living on the Right of the Marmion than on the coastal side. the coastal side like Mindarie - Ocean Reef - Hillarys are very expensive.

Thats why people who are 'average' build, in places like Brighton - Landsdale - Carramar. Places like Ellenbrook (where I lived!!) may be a 20 min drive to the coast but are more likely places to settle. It's the newer suburbs that people tend to go for because they find it cheaper to build.

I think Balga must be one of the worst, and if you live there I'm sorry but thats my opinion. There are plenty of lovely suburbs that aren't as expensive as places like Cottesloe - Applecross and Mount Lawley.

Clarkson is sometimes frowned upon but I liked it and could mention far worse. Joondalup is a nice town but again prices have risen there too.

Good luck with your search. :)

loose Dec 23rd 2004 4:08 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
I'm in Yokine at the moment, but dont really know where it is.

Dont get me wrong, Perth is lovely, but it does all look a bit alike.

For what its worth I like Leaderville, but only cos I dig the Astor piccies.

Not much help am I? Soz.

Hi all. :D

janeyray Dec 23rd 2004 4:10 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by loose
I'm in Yokine at the moment.

Dont get me wrong, Perth is lovely, but it does alllkk a bit alike.

For what its worth I like Leadeville, but only cos I dig the Astor Theatre.

Not much help am I? Soz.

Hi all. :D

lol, a bit alike...yes it does!! It took us at least a month before we realised we were going around in circles!! lol :D Don't tell the locals that all their suburbs look alike, they hate that!!! :D

loose Dec 23rd 2004 4:13 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by janeyray
lol, a bit alike...yes it does!! It took us at least a month before we realised we were going around in circles!! lol :D Don't tell the locals that all their suburbs look alike, they hate that!!! :D

Yeah, think I've annoyed a few of 'em already.

It is lovely though, the coast and river, and loads of places have a lot going for them. Its just that I'm used to landmarks. Plus I have the worst sense of direction ever. I got lost going for the paper this morning and it was left right left only.

Now give me directions like "turn left at the Kings HEad" and I'm away no prob.

Mercedes Dec 23rd 2004 4:21 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by loose
Yeah, think I've annoyed a few of 'em already.

It is lovely though, the coast and river, and loads of places have a lot going for them. Its just that I'm used to landmarks. Plus I have the worst sense of direction ever. I got lost going for the paper this morning and it was left right left only.

Now give me directions like "turn left at the Kings HEad" and I'm away no prob.

Take some different colour chalk with and mark the route, so if you go out for the paper you know which way you came :D

Larissa Dec 23rd 2004 9:05 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
Hi Jones Family
I'd agree with most of the posters, some good advice here. I'm not sure why exactly Wanaroo gets bad press; there are some lovely large blocks over there. IMHO Hilarys is McMansion land, I would hate to live there! There are also some lovely areas East, by the Swan River. Many Poms are attracted to the North Coastal Belt and it is becoming like one large suburb. I think some of the areas popular with Poms are over valued. While you're in the UK, get a UBD and try and glean info about where other posters are living, then look at what ammenities / industrial estates etc. are nearby.

We are renting in Joondalup and are using it as a base to explore the area for the next 6 months. It's handy as we're near the train station and the school, shops and surgery are within walking distance; we didn't realise how handy this was until our car battery went flat! I don't think we would buy here though, but time will tell... there is so much choice and we're not that sure about the market at the moment.

Could you maybe rent short term when you get here and then spend a few days exploring?
ATB
Larissa

walla Dec 23rd 2004 10:09 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by The Jones Family
I don't mean this to be a contentious issue, but was just wondering, in your individual opinions which areas of Perth would be best avoided.

My goodness, I cannot believe that we've been talking about moving to Oz for over three years now, and it's actually going to happen soon :eek: , and we have no idea where we are going to live. If we had location dependent jobs it would be a darned sight easier.

I would like to be near the usual, good shops, childcare, restaurants, PEOPLE!!

Thanks all, would love to hear your views (ok they might be biased but I still want to hear them!)

PS What is that area between Hillary's and Scarborough. Personally I liked Hillary's in an ironic Stepford Wives kind of way :rolleyes:

It all depends much cash you have and/or how much mortage you can afford.

Beach suburb living is expensive so if unless ya loaded look further inland.

Give me a ball park figure and I'll tell ya where to look :)

jopaulss Dec 23rd 2004 10:59 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
We live in Hillarys Larissa and we like it, have been in the suburb just over 2 years now. Think we all have an oponion of different suburbs and why we like them and why we dont, otherwise we would all be overcrowded wouldnt we, but i wouldnt comment on suburb if i hadnt actually lived there ;)
Joanne

Simone Dec 25th 2004 12:33 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
Loose!!!!!

Your're near me!

I'm just above Leederville(and my friend lives there). It's very nice, but not affordable for many.
How long are you around here for???



Mount Hawthorn is nice, where we live. We're renting though, and won't ever buy here, it's too expensive(don't want to either, want more country).

Suburbs here usually don't have very clear borders, so you can't even tell if you're in the next suburb.
Only by using the UBD will you know :D
A lot of the suburbs seem much of the same to me too.
I'd like to end up living on the edge of the city(hills...)(or really in the southwest, but don't think that'll work with jobs)
I notice differences between older and newer suburbs though. And you can tell the more run down ones too(only if you look carefully).
Older suburbs still have a bit of a main street with shops(the suburbs around here). They also still have 'local' pubs. (we have the "Paddo" and the "Oxford" just down the road(not that we go often, we're not british ;) )
The newer ones are well... new. With shopping centres. And not very leafy. And far away from the city(where most/a lot of people work).
But they're cheaper though, which is very important of course.

juri Dec 25th 2004 10:09 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by sophia
hiya lathlain

Are you sure about these suburbs? I don't want to start an arguement about suburbs cos I live down Rockingham and have no first hand knowledge of them "ooop north" but I remembered a thread by a old poster called Perth Helena which (admittedly was a year or so ago now) told another poster to avoid almost all those suburbs you just mentioned! :confused:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110995

love sophia xx

I agree, those suburbs are thought by many to be undesirable-- hence cheap

binman Dec 25th 2004 10:20 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
Anyone any thoughts on Carine and inparticular the schooling. Thanks binman

Siren & Brian Dec 25th 2004 12:28 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by binman
Anyone any thoughts on Carine and inparticular the schooling. Thanks binman


Carine is a very good area, can be pricey, schools in the area with a good reputation

binman Dec 25th 2004 3:11 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Siren
Carine is a very good area, can be pricey, schools in the area with a good reputation

Thanks Siren. Cheers binman

Larissa Dec 25th 2004 9:16 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by jopaulss
We live in Hillarys Larissa and we like it, have been in the suburb just over 2 years now. Think we all have an oponion of different suburbs and why we like them and why we dont, otherwise we would all be overcrowded wouldnt we, but i wouldnt comment on suburb if i hadnt actually lived there ;)
Joanne

Sorry Jopaulss, didn't mean to offend and you're right about the overcrowding bit. One great thing about Perth is that there is something for everyone.

mutang Dec 25th 2004 10:26 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 
Hi all , is there any decent suburbs that are more leafy , country style (with a bit more land ) but close enough to the city + coast to commute ?
Thanks ,

Jim

Larissa Dec 25th 2004 11:01 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by mutang
Hi all , is there any decent suburbs that are more leafy , country style (with a bit more land ) but close enough to the city + coast to commute ?
Thanks ,

Jim

Hi Jim, sounds like you're looking for the same thing as us! A lot will depend on your budget and what you mean by "close". Are you used to commuting in the UK?
The problem with Perth is that everyone wants to live near the coast, hence the small blocks in the "coastal strip". Some people don't want the hassle of maintaining a large block, so they're happy with the smaller blocks, or they're well off and can afford more.
You get more land the further east you go, but then you're further from the sea. It also gets cheaper the further North you go. There are larger blocks in Waneroo, also in the Hills area, east of Perth. Some larger properties are located on the Pinjar Road and Neaves Road. I love Yanchep, but its quite far out. There is also the Swan valley (lovely vineyards, very scenic) but this is also a way from the coast. We haven't explored much further South, so I can't give you much info in that regard. We're still looking and exploring :)
ATB
Larissa

sj oldfield Dec 25th 2004 11:14 pm

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by mutang
Hi all , is there any decent suburbs that are more leafy , country style (with a bit more land ) but close enough to the city + coast to commute ?
Thanks ,

Jim

Try carramar. We have family there. Their house is massive and they have LOADS of land

Wave the Sails Dec 26th 2004 12:37 am

Re: Any Perth suburbs to avoid/aim for?
 

Originally Posted by Larissa
Hi Jones Family
I'd agree with most of the posters, some good advice here. I'm not sure why exactly Wanaroo gets bad press; there are some lovely large blocks over there. IMHO Hilarys is McMansion land, I would hate to live there! There are also some lovely areas East, by the Swan River. Many Poms are attracted to the North Coastal Belt and it is becoming like one large suburb. I think some of the areas popular with Poms are over valued. While you're in the UK, get a UBD and try and glean info about where other posters are living, then look at what ammenities / industrial estates etc. are nearby.

We are renting in Joondalup and are using it as a base to explore the area for the next 6 months. It's handy as we're near the train station and the school, shops and surgery are within walking distance; we didn't realise how handy this was until our car battery went flat! I don't think we would buy here though, but time will tell... there is so much choice and we're not that sure about the market at the moment.

Could you maybe rent short term when you get here and then spend a few days exploring?
ATB
Larissa

Thanks so much for that - replying to your email at moment too!


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