Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Feb 27th 2005 | 7:39 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Originally Posted by djdutts
If you're that p*ssed off, why don't you just ***** off back home, you miserable twat.
Feb 27th 2005 | 7:44 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Originally Posted by The Bloke
After nearly another summer of sub-standard electrical stuffups by Energex, even I'm thinking of going back to the UK where there is apparently a better system of delivering power to homes. The standard of electrical generation in Qld is disgusting and the amount of efficency, sorry, lack thereof makes any third-world country look decidedly better. The trouble is 99% of Australians still say "she'll be apples" and do nothing, while the politicians ripoff the system.
Sorry to those who think I'm having a whinge but after tonight I think I need to let off a little steam, as this PC was nearly fried by the on-off-on-off-on and low output of electricity, affecting houses and units in our street randomly. This was apparently caused by faulty traffic light (saw power crews up pole fixing it, Yeh right). Thought this was the 21st century in a first-world industrial nation, would have been better off in Beleize, as Pollyana
said as abuse was hurled after the joggers crashed into the fence outside. Thank God PC came back to life as it was going to be dumped on the counter of the nearest Energex office tomorrow.
I have been told that the UK system has not had a major outage since the seventies compared to the yearly outages from outdated equipment. And no I'm not Mike Stanton in disguise, but an Australian (Queenslander) who is fedup with the crap that is going on in this state and what is not shown in the glossy brochures shown to people in the UK or anyware. No wonder people get fedup and go home.
The only time this was worse was during the late seventies and early eighties when the striking power unions clashed with the then National Party gov't. At least then we new the reason was political not equipment failure.
Sorry to those who think I'm having a whinge but after tonight I think I need to let off a little steam, as this PC was nearly fried by the on-off-on-off-on and low output of electricity, affecting houses and units in our street randomly. This was apparently caused by faulty traffic light (saw power crews up pole fixing it, Yeh right). Thought this was the 21st century in a first-world industrial nation, would have been better off in Beleize, as Pollyana
said as abuse was hurled after the joggers crashed into the fence outside. Thank God PC came back to life as it was going to be dumped on the counter of the nearest Energex office tomorrow.
I have been told that the UK system has not had a major outage since the seventies compared to the yearly outages from outdated equipment. And no I'm not Mike Stanton in disguise, but an Australian (Queenslander) who is fedup with the crap that is going on in this state and what is not shown in the glossy brochures shown to people in the UK or anyware. No wonder people get fedup and go home.
The only time this was worse was during the late seventies and early eighties when the striking power unions clashed with the then National Party gov't. At least then we new the reason was political not equipment failure.
Another Aussie leaving the sinking ship then
I didnt read the rest of the thread but bet it went like this, OHH but its been raining/snowing sleet here for weeks now and we avent had power for weeks
Actually this year has been very good up at Noosa, No storms this summer, if we had them people would really know what you are talking about. Perths is
worse apparantly, Linesmen are being offered $2000 a week, that must be big money over there, if they will move to Perth.
Feb 27th 2005 | 7:50 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Originally Posted by The Bloke
Obviously you missed the start of the thread or didn't read it properly.
You have just broken the mortal sin
Never let out australia has problems too 
No go home you whingin aussie
Feb 27th 2005 | 8:04 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Originally Posted by jad n rich
You have just broken the mortal sin Never let out australia has problems too No go home you whingin aussie
Never let out australia has problems too No go home you whingin aussie
Feb 27th 2005 | 8:28 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
A surge protector is a minimum here. A UPS is better as it will smooth out the changes in voltages you get with an overloaded power grid.
A 500 KVA UPS should suffice for most users and will provide between 5 and 20 mins up time.
A good bolt of lightening will go through either and fry your system.
The politics of the issue is either invest, cut back services and increase taxes or do nothing. Politicians that cut services and increase taxes do not last long.
A 500 KVA UPS should suffice for most users and will provide between 5 and 20 mins up time.
A good bolt of lightening will go through either and fry your system.
The politics of the issue is either invest, cut back services and increase taxes or do nothing. Politicians that cut services and increase taxes do not last long.
Feb 27th 2005 | 9:51 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Our power has been very erratic so far this year. We've had about 12 total outages during the daytime and a couple at night. We know now that if the lights flicker more than 3 times in the hour the power will go off. This is because the breakers that kick in to reset the power can only do so a few times before a manual reset is needed. The power then has to stay of for a certain time to enable a reset.
It's been very annoying as every time we have a black/brownout the ISDN modem shuts down and has to be rebooted, the reboot procedure only takes 4 mins though, while we were at work one day my dad had to reboot it 5 times just to make a phone call. If the phone worked it wouldn't be as much of a problem as the pc just gets switched off.
I've read the thread and things are different here from the U.K. In the U.K power is 240v give or take a few volts. The U.K national grid is the standard setter for the rest of the world. It stays the same unlike the method used here where the power can drop right off yet not go completely out. This can cause thousands of $ worth of damage to electrical appliances. Fridges and freezers are particularly sensitive to having the motors running to slowly.
I've bought a UPS now only a small one 300va 180w. Cost less than $100 from Dick Smiths [special offer] and comes with software/cable to speak to the pc. It's cured the problem of having to reboot the ISDN daily and in the event of a total outage gives us time to turn off the pc after saving the stuff your working on.
It's been very annoying as every time we have a black/brownout the ISDN modem shuts down and has to be rebooted, the reboot procedure only takes 4 mins though, while we were at work one day my dad had to reboot it 5 times just to make a phone call. If the phone worked it wouldn't be as much of a problem as the pc just gets switched off.
I've read the thread and things are different here from the U.K. In the U.K power is 240v give or take a few volts. The U.K national grid is the standard setter for the rest of the world. It stays the same unlike the method used here where the power can drop right off yet not go completely out. This can cause thousands of $ worth of damage to electrical appliances. Fridges and freezers are particularly sensitive to having the motors running to slowly.
I've bought a UPS now only a small one 300va 180w. Cost less than $100 from Dick Smiths [special offer] and comes with software/cable to speak to the pc. It's cured the problem of having to reboot the ISDN daily and in the event of a total outage gives us time to turn off the pc after saving the stuff your working on.
Feb 27th 2005 | 10:53 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Originally Posted by The Bloke
Odd comment, seeing that the same gov't alledgedly skims nearly 95% of the profits from Energex/Ergon and pays for the funeral of the chap who alledgedly renovated his house with alledgedly embezzaled money before dying in a traffic accident and so far as I am aware not attempt to recover the money has been or will be made. Strange that the report on the matter was tabled in Cabinet not the Parliament, which means the FOI Act does not apply and that the real story would be secret to the public for decades.
One business owner tried to claim compensation recently for lost food and income resulting from a blackout. His claim was rejected, so what hope have ordinary consumers got.
One business owner tried to claim compensation recently for lost food and income resulting from a blackout. His claim was rejected, so what hope have ordinary consumers got.
If you re-read what I was saying, then actually I was also saying the same.
Quote "the government are equally to blame"
Without going into reams of detail what I was saying was the government have realised they and Energex have got to get their act together as the Aussie public is no longer prepared to put up with an atrocious service without repercussions for Energex and compo for the public. Hence power companies now being penalised, albeit softly, softly at the moment.
As for dirty politics. Yep....this happens in the UK too. In fact it's endemic worldwide. The whole worlds political arena is one big chess game. with dirty tricks played at every opportunity. It's what makes the world go round
To think otherwise would be naive
Feb 27th 2005 | 11:25 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
hate to be dum, but havent come across this before - whats the difference between a black out and a brown out???
i made an interesting discovery about my central heating system yesterday - there is a blue square and a red square on the dial for on and off - just figured out the blue means cold (so ch not on) and red means hot (ch on) - DOH!!!!!!!!!!
is the black out/ brown out thing a similar obvious thing that im missing completely??
hey.........the lights keep flickering - we had a 10 hour power cut a couple of weeks ago (and im in sheffield uk!!)
sue
i made an interesting discovery about my central heating system yesterday - there is a blue square and a red square on the dial for on and off - just figured out the blue means cold (so ch not on) and red means hot (ch on) - DOH!!!!!!!!!!
is the black out/ brown out thing a similar obvious thing that im missing completely??
hey.........the lights keep flickering - we had a 10 hour power cut a couple of weeks ago (and im in sheffield uk!!)
sue
Feb 27th 2005 | 11:53 am
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Originally Posted by tiredwithtwins
hate to be dum, but havent come across this before - whats the difference between a black out and a brown out???
sue
sue
Brown out - power at very low levels, typically 100-150v on a 240v supply. Items such as light bulbs will still operate correctly albeit much dimmed. Modern electronic equipment particularly those not using switch mode power supplies (laptop power supplies are usually switch mode and hence can cope with ~100-280v) will not operate correctly.
Feb 27th 2005 | 12:17 pm
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
An interesting note from Energex shows some figures for average outages over the year
It would appear that they do target areas for improvement at random, or some other strange logic. I've been told that they are currently laying underground cabling to replace the overhead cables leading to my area, yet we have very few power problems in comparison to some other posters. However, the older parts of Victoria Point, (with overhead cables), get more outages than the newer parts that have the undergournd cables.
Performance
The reliability performance of the ENERGEX electricity network during the 2003/04 financial year, as measured by average total interruption duration,
was 362.6 minutes compared with 207.8 minutes during the 2002/03 year. This increase was largely attributable to the major impact on reliability caused
by the unprecedented series of storms during January and March 2004.
The reliability performance of the ENERGEX electricity network during the 2003/04 financial year, as measured by average total interruption duration,
was 362.6 minutes compared with 207.8 minutes during the 2002/03 year. This increase was largely attributable to the major impact on reliability caused
by the unprecedented series of storms during January and March 2004.
Feb 27th 2005 | 6:24 pm
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Sorry - might have been a touch harsh there! (Apologies to all).
HOWEVER - I do stand by on my thoughts that people should stop whinging and get on with life. Can't stand moaners! Be happy!
HOWEVER - I do stand by on my thoughts that people should stop whinging and get on with life. Can't stand moaners! Be happy!
Feb 27th 2005 | 6:29 pm
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Originally Posted by djdutts
Sorry - might have been a touch harsh there! (Apologies to all).
HOWEVER - I do stand by on my thoughts that people should stop whinging and get on with life. Can't stand moaners! Be happy!
HOWEVER - I do stand by on my thoughts that people should stop whinging and get on with life. Can't stand moaners! Be happy!
Feb 27th 2005 | 6:32 pm
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
Never. Not one bit.
I never moan. Bloody whingers, they annoy me!
I never moan. Bloody whingers, they annoy me!
Feb 27th 2005 | 6:38 pm
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Re: Another Reason For Going Back To The UK!!!
as you know Queensland lives by the attitude - she''ll be right mate! So it is no wonder this sort of thing is never fixed! You must live in a particularly bad area, maybe because Brisbane has a denser population and they are only used to 1 person per sq km!! We have only had 1 power cut here in over a year and that was in a storm so I can't moan with you on this one. How often are you getting the power cuts?
We have only had 1 power cut here in over a year and that was in a storm so I can't moan with you on this one. How often are you getting the power cuts?
Feb 27th 2005 | 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by djdutts
Never. Not one bit.
I never moan. Bloody whingers, they annoy me!
I never moan. Bloody whingers, they annoy me!
I would say just to ignore any future "moans", rather than commenting in a negative way!
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