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Dazlin Mar 9th 2005 6:03 pm

Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 
Hi all

Me and my partner are in the process of immigrating to Oz and in about six months it will be time for our medicals.

I am now starting to worry that after I have my medical they will tell me I am to over weight.

Does anyone know what they class as "to heavy"?

Thanks
Julie

Siren & Brian Mar 9th 2005 6:08 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Dazlin
Hi all

Me and my partner are in the process of immigrating to Oz and in about six months it will be time for our medicals.

I am now starting to worry that after I have my medical they will tell me I am to over weight.

Does anyone know what they class as "to heavy"?

Thanks
Julie

Well if your too fat start losing some weight for your own health. No point in having a visa and dead from all the problems being over weight can cause.

And no i dont know how fat you can be but from what i have heard on this forum its quite fat.

Perthforme Mar 9th 2005 6:12 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Dazlin
Hi all

Me and my partner are in the process of immigrating to Oz and in about six months it will be time for our medicals.

I am now starting to worry that after I have my medical they will tell me I am to over weight.

Does anyone know what they class as "to heavy"?

Thanks
Julie

I think if your body fat index is over 30 then it starts to be a prob,
Check out dieters for oz on here been a popular one ;)

ad4ozz Mar 9th 2005 6:35 pm

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Weight needs to be less than BMI of 40 for easy pass once over 40 they class you at major risk of health problems.

http://www.weightconcern.com/

This site will calculate your BMI for you ...go to risk of obesity on tabs... then... am i overweight then... calculate adult BMI.

Good luck don't get to scared... :scared: .

Also if overweight need to watch your BP as BP of more than 140/90 and they want cardiologist report.

Fletchismint Mar 9th 2005 6:41 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 
The BMI is only a guide though. I'm a 5'11'' guy and I way 89 kgs with only a few pounds of it fat and the site said I was fat. Muscle should be taken into account.

Amazulu Mar 9th 2005 6:47 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Dazlin
Hi all

Me and my partner are in the process of immigrating to Oz and in about six months it will be time for our medicals.

I am now starting to worry that after I have my medical they will tell me I am to over weight.

Does anyone know what they class as "to heavy"?

Thanks
Julie

I think you would need to be very overweight to affect the outcome. If your weight was causing other health problems, then that could be a problem. If you think about it, if being overweight was a problem in Oz, then they would have to deport half their people. Australia is a seriously lard arse nation.

wombat42 Mar 9th 2005 7:02 pm

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We already have enough fat lard arse Aussies so we don't need fat lard arse Poms, lose weight or immigrate to America, land of the lard. ;)

Neil S Mar 9th 2005 7:10 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 
Not many fat lard arse Aussies in this neck of the woods. Worst place I've been to by far for fat people, is Florida. Besides, if the obese person hasn't got any obese related health problems, i.e diabetes, high blood pressure, stress, back problems, then why not let em in to Australia?

DollyDaydream Mar 9th 2005 7:16 pm

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Originally Posted by wombat42
We already have enough fat lard arse Aussies so we don't need fat lard arse Poms, lose weight or immigrate to America, land of the lard. ;)

http://www.*************.com/smilies...e/tongue10.gif

Grayling Mar 9th 2005 7:49 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Siren
Well if your too fat start losing some weight for your own health. No point in having a visa and dead from all the problems being over weight can cause.

And no i dont know how fat you can be but from what i have heard on this forum its quite fat.

I agree with Siren here.

I am amazed at the number of times this subject crops up.

It sometimes seems that most wannabe migrants to Australia are overweight :eek:
This could be the subject of a PHD for someone ;)

If you are grossly overweight then I think you should be far more worried about the consequences for your health rather than whether or not it will affect your chances of passing the medical :rolleyes:

Given the consequences for the Australian healthcare system I am not surprised they take it seriously.

Waiting for the flak.

G

Dazlin Mar 9th 2005 8:14 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Grayling
I agree with Siren here.

I am amazed at the number of times this subject crops up.

It sometimes seems that most wannabe migrants to Australia are overweight :eek:
This could be the subject of a PHD for someone ;)

If you are grossly overweight then I think you should be far more worried about the consequences for your health rather than whether or not it will affect your chances of passing the medical :rolleyes:

Given the consequences for the Australian healthcare system I am not surprised they take it seriously.

Waiting for the flak.

G

I think I should have probably put in my original message that I am only slightly over weight, and that's only because I like my wine to much :beer: .

I have just been starting to worry that something will go wrong with our application and wanted to put my mind at rest.

Thanks for your reply anyway.

Julie :p

lacey21 Mar 9th 2005 8:21 pm

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Well Julie we are doing the Dieters for Oz and the only reason we are doing this is for health reasons of course and in order to pass the medical. I have lost 44 and a half pounds so far. I have about another 5 stone to lose. And if you lived in Manchester you would soon understand why I was fat!
Good luck
Lace :)

Dazlin Mar 9th 2005 8:31 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by lacey21
Well Julie we are doing the Dieters for Oz and the only reason we are doing this is for health reasons of course and in order to pass the medical. I have lost 44 and a half pounds so far. I have about another 5 stone to lose. And if you lived in Manchester you would soon understand why I was fat!
Good luck
Lace :)

Hi Lace

Can I ask what type of diet your on?

Julie :)

P.S. I hope you don't think I'm being rude :o

CORKER Mar 9th 2005 8:48 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Dazlin
Hi Lace

Can I ask what type of diet your on?

Julie :)

P.S. I hope you don't think I'm being rude :o

It's not a diet.....the've just had thier arse amputated...
CORKER

Grayling Mar 9th 2005 8:51 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Dazlin
I think I should have probably put in my original message that I am only slightly over weight, and that's only because I like my wine to much :beer: .

I have just been starting to worry that something will go wrong with our application and wanted to put my mind at rest.

Thanks for your reply anyway.

Julie :p

Julie

My post was a general point and not just directed at you.

This crops up regularly though and most posters seem more worried about passing the medical than being overweight :rolleyes:

Overweight is actually a serious medical issue, like Alcohol abuse or smoking.

Your health is far more important to you and your family than whether you get a visa or not.

Hopefully the migration process will act as a spur to you (and lots of others) to do something about it. :)

If you are only a bit overweight then the medical will be a breeze. This does not mean you should not address it though.

Good luck

G

Dazlin Mar 9th 2005 8:56 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Grayling
Julie

My post was a general point and not just directed at you.

This crops up regularly though and most posters seem more worried about passing the medical than being overweight :rolleyes:

Overweight is actually a serious medical issue, like Alcohol abuse or smoking.

Your health is far more important to you and your family than whether you get a visa or not.

Hopefully the migration process will act as a spur to you (and lots of others) to do something about it. :)

If you are only a bit overweight then the medical will be a breeze. This does not mean you should not address it though.

Good luck

G

Thanks

Julie :)

Dazlin Mar 9th 2005 8:57 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by CORKER
It's not a diet.....the've just had thier arse amputated...
CORKER

There's no need to be rude! :mad:

Julie

vickymills Mar 9th 2005 9:30 pm

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 
I went to have my medical 2 weeks after giving birth and wasnt exaclty slim at the time (having put on 4 1/2 stone during my pregnancy) but I got through fine.
Since coming to Oz I've lost the baby weight I put on 'cos I'm happy here and go out for lots of walks. Dont stay in and eat chocolate and drink wine each night as I did in England.
When the weathers warm and sunny and the fruits nice and sweet the weight seems to drop off. And having had 3 bad tummy bugs since I've been here probably helped too.

Seriously though if you are generally well enough to work your BMI is below 30 and your blood pressure Ok then you have little to worry about.

chocaholic Mar 10th 2005 12:29 am

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Dazlin
Hi all

Me and my partner are in the process of immigrating to Oz and in about six months it will be time for our medicals.

I am now starting to worry that after I have my medical they will tell me I am to over weight.

Does anyone know what they class as "to heavy"?

Thanks
Julie

Hi Julie,

As you have read, lots of people worry about this one. I did too. I think they'll only start raising questions if you're really overweight and are very likely to develop certain illnesses because of it, such as diabetes, heart disease and the kind of thing that may be a burden on Medicare. A bit overweight won't be a problem.

All the best with your application and try not to worry too much - not good for the blood pressure ;)

jones74 Mar 10th 2005 5:45 am

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 
if it helps at all I was in the same boat, weighing in at 16 1/2 stone, joined a gym, stopped boozing and passed medicals 9 months later at 14 1/2 stone.

Good Luck


Originally Posted by Dazlin
Hi all

Me and my partner are in the process of immigrating to Oz and in about six months it will be time for our medicals.

I am now starting to worry that after I have my medical they will tell me I am to over weight.

Does anyone know what they class as "to heavy"?

Thanks
Julie


renth Mar 10th 2005 5:48 am

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by Dazlin
I think I should have probably put in my original message that I am only slightly over weight, and that's only because I like my wine to much :beer: .

I'm sure you'll be fine. Its only the ones who need to be rolled in flour before their husbands shag them that need to worry.

Fuzzy Duck Mar 10th 2005 6:12 am

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by renth
I'm sure you'll be fine. Its only the ones who need to be rolled in flour before their husbands shag them that need to worry.

Speaking from experience or are you just fattist?

Personally I dont think you can call yourself a man until you have shagged a bird that weighs more than you.

lacey21 Mar 10th 2005 7:35 am

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Hi Julie yeah I'm on Weight Watchers and for the rude people out there, yeah we know that weight is a serious health problem we can't all be that thick but you try to lose it. I have had Crap after crap in my life and everyone is different. If we were all the same wouldn't the world be boring.
I wish and stive for that illusive size, not 10 not even 12 but a size 14 that some people are lucky to have and not have to do anything to keep that way.
Hey, he who doesn't sin cast the first stone!
Thought not!
Lace

halflinggirl2000 Mar 10th 2005 7:55 am

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Originally Posted by renth
I'm sure you'll be fine. Its only the ones who need to be rolled in flour before their husbands shag them that need to worry.


Oh yes and being such a thoughtful person, you thought that comments like yours help, there are many reasons for being overweight and being stupid or lazy are not the major ones. So personality of the year is definatley not going to you :p

renth Mar 10th 2005 8:01 am

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by halflinggirl2000
there are many reasons for being overweight and being stupid or lazy are not the major ones.

Many reasons? I don't think so, the main one is eating too much food, you can blame your glands if you like but in most cases it's not burning off the calories you ingest. Pretty simple really.

Don't get me wrong I've nothing against fatties but if you are obese you ought to sort it out, it's bad for your health, and if you have obesity related health problems in Australia it's the Aussie tax payer who will be paying for it.

halflinggirl2000 Mar 10th 2005 8:12 am

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by renth
Many reasons? I don't think so, the main one is eating too much food, you can blame your glands if you like but in most cases it's not burning off the calories you ingest. Pretty simple really.

Don't get me wrong I've nothing against fatties but if you are obese you ought to sort it out, it's bad for your health, and if you have obesity related health problems in Australia it's the Aussie tax payer who will be paying for it.

I do not blame my glands, and what I was referring to with the reason we eat to much, not the fact that we do. At 45years of age I am just coming to face my reasons and face/deal with them. People deal with these reasons by smoking, eating, bullying others, etc. I am not an extreme PC (politically correct) but if you are not a fattist why would you write something that would be so hurtful (and it has, horrible thing to say), it will not help any fatty to stay on track. Just think that you should think before writting such comments in the future

thepoacher Mar 10th 2005 8:43 am

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Well people who smoke or drink too much are being mildy persecuted in todays society and people generally thinks that perfectly acceptable. I'm sure everyone has been witness to a belittling "Do you know what that smoke is doing to your lungs" lecture or the contempt shown to someone with a drink problem. But as soon as you start having a go at some for over indulging in a different but just as harmful vice, food rather than tobacco or alcohol, it becomes cruel and unfair.
This may sound harsh and I now there are always exceptions, but for the majority of obese people out there, you made yourself fat due to your own lack of self control. Don't complain when someone points this weakness out to you, do something about it.

Sorry about the rant, but I'm sick of some over weight people constantly complaining about it not being their fault.

podgypossum Mar 10th 2005 8:46 am

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Hi halfinggirl

Please do not waste your precious time and effort on this. Been down this road many many times.

Try and twist things around for your benefit. Are people who treat others and think of them in this way REALLY the sort of people you want or need in your life? I doubt it...
I can tell from your posts you have been through the mill a bit like i have over the years, and maybe overeating was your "aenasthetic" just as others take to drink (geez theres plenty of those hovering around in here i can assure you!!) fags, drugs or whatever other hang ups that come from personal misery or tragedies sustained over the years. The only difference between you, me and them is that we WEAR our scars, they can hide theirs whenever they choose..doesnt mean they havent got any weaknesses or crutches though...
then theres those who dont have any of the vices, addictions, issues and problems so readily poured down on us mere mortals.... the holier than though regiment. "I am superior, and the rest of you should think act and behave as i do otherwise in my mind you're not worth jack shit"... i'm gettin long in the tooth..believe me, one day sometime before they die, something WILL happen to them to make them realise what arseholes they have been.

Then theres the people you really should be focusing on... the REALLY happy, confident and at peace with themselves group. They are my favourite people...the ones who live a great life, enjoy others for the good people they are, the fun they bring into their lives and have no need to compare "notes" on how better they are... you must have seem them..the ones who smile at you, pass the time of day and take a genuine interest in you for who you really are (not the size of your waistband).. theres lots of those folks out here and trust me..once you have lived in it a while getting rid of the pounds of misery is not such a daunting task as they make you feel worthy of a better life...hang in there babes and good luck with the struggle!!

scoobydoo Mar 10th 2005 8:53 am

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Fantastic post PP.
:)

Phoenixuk2oz Mar 10th 2005 8:55 am

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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
Fantastic post PP.
:)

Yep...I'll second that ;)

Karma worthy :)

halflinggirl2000 Mar 10th 2005 8:58 am

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by thepoacher
Well people who smoke or drink too much are being mildy persecuted in todays society and people generally thinks that perfectly acceptable. I'm sure everyone has been witness to a belittling "Do you know what that smoke is doing to your lungs" lecture or the contempt shown to someone with a drink problem. But as soon as you start having a go at some for over indulging in a different but just as harmful vice, food rather than tobacco or alcohol, it becomes cruel and unfair.
This may sound harsh and I now there are always exceptions, but for the majority of obese people out there, you made yourself fat due to your own lack of self control. Don't complain when someone points this weakness out to you, do something about it.

Sorry about the rant, but I'm sick of some over weight people constantly complaining about it not being their fault.

I have never said it was not my fault, and I do not persecute other peoples needs I was not setting myself apart from them but feel that I have the same (not good for you) patterns, maybe you always see your personal crutch as the most got at! but fat people get more public rude comments that smokers do, people feel that they have the right to comment, and this is not any help at all, like nagging a smoker/drinker/over eater to stop, will only lead to stress and they are likely to do more of what they wish to stop. I do not feel I have the right to comment openly on other people, especially if it would hurt them and that is all I am asking, this is thread is degenerating and upsetting me greatly so I will leave you all too it. Just ask you to think if you would like nasty comments aimed at you and yours and act accordingly.

halflinggirl2000 Mar 10th 2005 9:06 am

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Originally Posted by podgypossum
Hi halfinggirl

Please do not waste your precious time and effort on this. Been down this road many many times.

Try and twist things around for your benefit. Are people who treat others and think of them in this way REALLY the sort of people you want or need in your life? I doubt it...
I can tell from your posts you have been through the mill a bit like i have over the years, and maybe overeating was your "aenasthetic" just as others take to drink (geez theres plenty of those hovering around in here i can assure you!!) fags, drugs or whatever other hang ups that come from personal misery or tragedies sustained over the years. The only difference between you, me and them is that we WEAR our scars, they can hide theirs whenever they choose..doesnt mean they havent got any weaknesses or crutches though...
then theres those who dont have any of the vices, addictions, issues and problems so readily poured down on us mere mortals.... the holier than though regiment. "I am superior, and the rest of you should think act and behave as i do otherwise in my mind you're not worth jack shit"... i'm gettin long in the tooth..believe me, one day sometime before they die, something WILL happen to them to make them realise what arseholes they have been.

Then theres the people you really should be focusing on... the REALLY happy, confident and at peace with themselves group. They are my favourite people...the ones who live a great life, enjoy others for the good people they are, the fun they bring into their lives and have no need to compare "notes" on how better they are... you must have seem them..the ones who smile at you, pass the time of day and take a genuine interest in you for who you really are (not the size of your waistband).. theres lots of those folks out here and trust me..once you have lived in it a while getting rid of the pounds of misery is not such a daunting task as they make you feel worthy of a better life...hang in there babes and good luck with the struggle!!

Thank you possum :) yes I had come to the same conclusion that they are not worth it, and don't know if it makes them feel bad or good to know that they can make someone feel like sh.t, but some thing went bang today and I had, had enough and fingers went aflying, Thank you for your kind thoughts
~Halflinggirl

mr mover Mar 10th 2005 9:06 am

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[QUOTE=podgypossum]Hi halfinggirl

just as others take to drink (geez theres plenty of those hovering around in here. quote . JEEZES p/p a great post, hope you wer,nt thinking of me with this line, :scared: .................. :beer: mm

MrsDagboy Mar 10th 2005 9:10 am

Re: Am I to fat to go to Oz!
 

Originally Posted by podgypossum
Hi halfinggirl

Please do not waste your precious time and effort on this. Been down this road many many times.

Try and twist things around for your benefit. Are people who treat others and think of them in this way REALLY the sort of people you want or need in your life? I doubt it...
I can tell from your posts you have been through the mill a bit like i have over the years, and maybe overeating was your "aenasthetic" just as others take to drink (geez theres plenty of those hovering around in here i can assure you!!) fags, drugs or whatever other hang ups that come from personal misery or tragedies sustained over the years. The only difference between you, me and them is that we WEAR our scars, they can hide theirs whenever they choose..doesnt mean they havent got any weaknesses or crutches though...
then theres those who dont have any of the vices, addictions, issues and problems so readily poured down on us mere mortals.... the holier than though regiment. "I am superior, and the rest of you should think act and behave as i do otherwise in my mind you're not worth jack shit"... i'm gettin long in the tooth..believe me, one day sometime before they die, something WILL happen to them to make them realise what arseholes they have been.

Then theres the people you really should be focusing on... the REALLY happy, confident and at peace with themselves group. They are my favourite people...the ones who live a great life, enjoy others for the good people they are, the fun they bring into their lives and have no need to compare "notes" on how better they are... you must have seem them..the ones who smile at you, pass the time of day and take a genuine interest in you for who you really are (not the size of your waistband).. theres lots of those folks out here and trust me..once you have lived in it a while getting rid of the pounds of misery is not such a daunting task as they make you feel worthy of a better life...hang in there babes and good luck with the struggle!!

PP, totally agree with you. People who choose to judge me because of the size of my bum or my waistband arent worth my time. It's their loss, not mine :) .

Edit - bugger, it wont let me give you karma PP, sorry!

podgypossum Mar 10th 2005 9:10 am

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LOL.. well i wasnt MM..but now you mention it... ;) :D

you're a sweetheart really ... :p

say hi to mick for me

halflinggirl2000 Mar 10th 2005 9:11 am

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Thank you for your karma wishes, please could you put your name at the end, or am I missing a way to find out who you are, anyway applogy accepted thank you ~ Halflinggirl

thepoacher Mar 10th 2005 9:29 am

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Originally Posted by halflinggirl2000
Thank you for your karma wishes, please could you put your name at the end, or am I missing a way to find out who you are, anyway applogy accepted thank you ~ Halflinggirl


Er... yeah it was me.
Didn't want to upset anyone, everyone has their problems - I like to rant everynow and then...often incoherently and when I shouldn't.

sme Mar 10th 2005 10:25 am

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Originally Posted by thepoacher
Er... yeah it was me.
Didn't want to upset anyone, everyone has their problems - I like to rant everynow and then...often incoherently and when I shouldn't.


Must say how good it is to see someone acknowledging that they may have hurt (inadvertently) by what they have written. :)
Gillian

podgypossum Mar 10th 2005 10:38 am

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Originally Posted by sme
Must say how good it is to see someone acknowledging that they may have hurt (inadvertently) by what they have written. :)
Gillian


yes very refreshing... wish it happened more often

DAGBOY.. if i knew how to send karma back you'd be getting a slap around the chops with a wet fish, but you really made me laugh out loud!!!

thanx to all others for the karma but i dont know how to send it back...

MrsDagboy Mar 10th 2005 10:52 am

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Originally Posted by podgypossum

DAGBOY.. if i knew how to send karma back you'd be getting a slap around the chops with a wet fish, but you really made me laugh out loud!!!

More than happy to do it for you since he's sitting next to me Podgy :D .

(you can give karma by clicking on the little karma button under their name ;) )


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