luca.321

Hi guys,

I 30 yo and I have this experience:

2 years - civil engineer
3 years - site engineer (reporting to the project manager)
1 year - project engineer (reporting to the project manager)

Do you think that I can apply to AIM for the assessment or not because of the lack of experience?

Thank you
Luca

Vegemite Kids

The key question is ...... How many direct reports did you manage in each of those positions?



I'm guessing, (but just the fact that you didnt mention your direct reports makes me think you dont really understand the basic principles of AIM and what its all about), so I would think at the moment the best you could hope for is affliate status.


Regards
VK

luca.321

The answer is:

2 years - civil engineer
3 years - site engineer (reporting to the project manager) - managed groups of up 60 workers on site - major figure of responsability
1 year - project engineer (reporting to the project manager) - managed up to 8 subcontractors

I think that however I am too young...

Vegemite Kids

as far as I'm aware, there are no age restrictions.

The key thing is what your management skills are and how many people you have directly managed.

Subcontractors and indirects dont count unfortunately (or I would have got my membership soooo much sooner)

newjersey

Why not the Engineers Australia? AIM seems like an odd choice.

luca.321

Because I need to apply for a skilled visa before July and the assessment time through EA is up to 4 months...but probably I will take this way...

Dorothy

I don't think you understand what AIM is all about. The AIM assessment is well known to be extremely difficult and unless you're the company CEO or managing director, you're not going to get very far. You need to be upper management with managers reporting directly to you. Not field supervisor or project supervisor.

Bermudashorts

Why do you need to apply before July? A 30 year old engineer should not have too much difficulty passing the new points test, well I would not have thought so anyway.

AIM skills assessment is very difficult to pass.

slapphead_otool

This AIM business never seems very clear to me.

Some people say it is hard, others claim to have obtained a General Manager visa with no qualifications whatsoever and after running a company with 20 workers.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...eneral+manager

I am also confused about how the approval process works. Some people say that AIM membership does not constitute approval for a visa, which seems very odd to me.

From my perspective the AIM seem far too keen to sell training courses rather than add value to the management profession. They even offer a “Mini MBA” which is actually a Certificate.

Does anyone have the definitive answer?

spalen

I got AIM GM as my skill

I did have substantial senior management responsibility over 10+ yr period and I had to resubmit some 'clarifications' Age is irrelevant - its the seniority of the role and time served.

It is important to show org charts, and be precise about the seniority of the role you executed.

It was fast to get - I think less than a month from submit to grant. Our entire visa process was less than 12wks. I did it all myself. Just treated it as a sales opportunity and dealt with it as I would any other 'project' at work.

luca.321

The problem is that with the new point system I need to take a score of 7 in the IELTS test...and it is a problem at the moment for me

Bermudashorts

Perhaps take some classes if you are not confident with your English, it won't be wasted effort anyway.

You need to "get" 7 not "take" 7.

luca.321

:-)

sonlymewalter

For an MBA to have any credibility or worth in terms of DIAC requirements the MBA needs to be a worldwide recognised course which is EQUIS AND AMBA accredited. To obtain this accreditation the course needs to demonstrate a certain benchmark level of learning. DIAC also require a certain level of business experience to add to this strict level of accreditation.

When AIM measures the skills of a GM for migration purposes their *testing* is very extensive in terms of the level within which an individual must operate within business. AIM is well known in terms of how difficult it is to pass and like spalen said, you need to provide various pieces of evidence relating to the job in order to pass. AIM can (and sometimes do) contact the company to verify and can check company websites to ascertain the size of the company and where it sits in the local and global market. They can (and do) check salary details to also verify the level within which a GM operates and where this sits within business.

Passing AIM is not easy despite what some people may tell you. You may be confused by what AIM offers Vs what DIAC requires - these are two different things mate.