Acreage Living
#16
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Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by moneypen20
We've got an acre and a half (and a bit) and love it. Half of it is bush land ish which we haven't explored and the bit near the house is lawned but a steep slope. We are only five minutes drive to schools etc, but the girls have a free bus pass. We probably could walk places but it's all very up and down steep hills so might get somewhere and not be able to get back
Our plot is (very) roughly 50metres at the front, 40 at the back and each side is sort of 150metres each side. A British football pitch is generally around the 100m by 50m size so that gives you some sort of idea.
Our plot is (very) roughly 50metres at the front, 40 at the back and each side is sort of 150metres each side. A British football pitch is generally around the 100m by 50m size so that gives you some sort of idea.
Cheers
Buzzy
#17
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Joined: May 2005
Location: Perth
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Re: Acreage Living
Hello,
I grew up in a semi-rural community (estate with 5-10 acre bloks and houses). We had horses and my brother and his friends had trail bikes, quad bikes and three-wheelers (one of them becoming an international champion before having a horrific fall and is now a quadriplegic ). Luckily for them there was a lot of vacant land not too far away and they did most of their tearing around on that land, away from the neighbours which resulted in a more harmonious neighbourhood. I have to say from expereince that 1 and a half acres is probably too small to be able to ride the bikes effectively though (not to mention the complaints you will get from neighbours!) and you might want to look at somewhere bigger (unless you meant 11 or 12 acres in which case then it would be OK for the boys but you would still get complaints from the neighbours). it is a big issue though in these kind of communities. I know the next estate along from us had problems with police involved etc.
As far as growing up in a semi-rural community goes there are pluses and minuses.
There is a lot of maintenenece - firebreaks, fences, watering grass (if you have paddocks and horses) gardens etc. None of this is cheap!
You have to drive EVERYWHERE. Even worse with kids who have a social life. No takeaways or deliveries (I spent the first few months of my first houseshare constantly ordering deliveries as it was a novelty!)
Often the closest schools are on the outskirts of a metro area, meaning that your closest state school might encompass some of the rougher elements of the suburbs.
There are lots of spiders etc and you will see snakes. We used to see a few each year.
On the plus side - you should get a free school bus
You can yell at your partner in anger and the neighbours won't hear . no worries about turning down the telly or the music at night so the neighbours can't hear you.
The other wildlife is amazing!
(If your kids find somewhere to ride their bikes) the neighbours are usually very friendly - all of you are in the same boat when it comes to the distance thing!
Your kids will get a real outdoorsy lifestyle. We used to spend loads of time outside and doing loads of cool sporty stuff like horseriding, camping, running, long walks etc. Your UK visitors will love the place.
Michelle
I grew up in a semi-rural community (estate with 5-10 acre bloks and houses). We had horses and my brother and his friends had trail bikes, quad bikes and three-wheelers (one of them becoming an international champion before having a horrific fall and is now a quadriplegic ). Luckily for them there was a lot of vacant land not too far away and they did most of their tearing around on that land, away from the neighbours which resulted in a more harmonious neighbourhood. I have to say from expereince that 1 and a half acres is probably too small to be able to ride the bikes effectively though (not to mention the complaints you will get from neighbours!) and you might want to look at somewhere bigger (unless you meant 11 or 12 acres in which case then it would be OK for the boys but you would still get complaints from the neighbours). it is a big issue though in these kind of communities. I know the next estate along from us had problems with police involved etc.
As far as growing up in a semi-rural community goes there are pluses and minuses.
There is a lot of maintenenece - firebreaks, fences, watering grass (if you have paddocks and horses) gardens etc. None of this is cheap!
You have to drive EVERYWHERE. Even worse with kids who have a social life. No takeaways or deliveries (I spent the first few months of my first houseshare constantly ordering deliveries as it was a novelty!)
Often the closest schools are on the outskirts of a metro area, meaning that your closest state school might encompass some of the rougher elements of the suburbs.
There are lots of spiders etc and you will see snakes. We used to see a few each year.
On the plus side - you should get a free school bus
You can yell at your partner in anger and the neighbours won't hear . no worries about turning down the telly or the music at night so the neighbours can't hear you.
The other wildlife is amazing!
(If your kids find somewhere to ride their bikes) the neighbours are usually very friendly - all of you are in the same boat when it comes to the distance thing!
Your kids will get a real outdoorsy lifestyle. We used to spend loads of time outside and doing loads of cool sporty stuff like horseriding, camping, running, long walks etc. Your UK visitors will love the place.
Michelle
#18
Re: Acreage Living
Funny enough I had a quick look at a vacant plot today which is 2.28 acres. It's the developers last lot going up for auction. It has underground services i.e. mains water, gas, power & phone but has no mains sewerage (septic sewer being the usual way to go in the area) It also has a protective covenant for 'lifestyle security' It was basically a sub-division of land but as it is in a low density area the plots were much, much bigger than the regular new estates.
I also spoke to a lender & they said they had a proviso about building the house within 5 years of land purchase. We would get the 1st time buyers rebate once the house was under construction.
I have read a little bit of helpful buying land information but would like to obtain some advice from someone in the know. i.e. What questions should you ask the vendor?, What inspections should be arranged?, How do you know whether you are paying a fair price?, If it's not built on for a while what kind of maintenance & outlay will be required? Can you get lumbered with any unexpected costs? Who are the competitive lenders to approach, etc. etc.
I'm going to attend the auction just to get the experience.
I also spoke to a lender & they said they had a proviso about building the house within 5 years of land purchase. We would get the 1st time buyers rebate once the house was under construction.
I have read a little bit of helpful buying land information but would like to obtain some advice from someone in the know. i.e. What questions should you ask the vendor?, What inspections should be arranged?, How do you know whether you are paying a fair price?, If it's not built on for a while what kind of maintenance & outlay will be required? Can you get lumbered with any unexpected costs? Who are the competitive lenders to approach, etc. etc.
I'm going to attend the auction just to get the experience.
#19
Re: Acreage Living
WE paid $127,000 for 2.5 acres in 1994, 30 km north of Adelaide today it is worth in excess of $400,000, dont think that Acreage is a waste of time..... mm
#20
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Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by mr mover
WE paid $127,000 for 2.5 acres in 1994, 30 km north of Adelaide today it is worth in excess of $400,000, dont think that Acreage is a waste of time..... mm
Apart from mowing there is no real extra work. Firebreaks - well, in the main that is the mowing, and the trees down the back might shelter you from ember attack in a bush fire.
Where we live, we are only 15mins from the 'town', and there are enough people that kids would always have somewhere to play.
B
#21
Re: Acreage Living
We live on 5 acres 30 minutes from Brisbane (outside rush hour).
We have just built and are busy landscaping now. We are planting tropicals out the front and natives out the back (all waterwise once established). We already have 4 acres of rainforest out the back and are leaving it as it is. We are under water restrictions here and will be for the foreseeable future so what's the point in putting down a lawn? We can't water it and have better things to do than mow it.
We got rid of any trees near the house so the gutters get less clogged now than they did when we lived in suburbia.
To the original OP, an acreage block needn't be much more work if you plan it properly and needn't be too far from the city if you can find the right spot. We get wallabies, deer, goanna, frogs and lots of birdlife. Have yet to see a snake and have less spiders than we did in suburbia.
Jane
P.s. when I say "we", I mean Jim. He's moving rocks around with the dingo tomorrow again.
We have just built and are busy landscaping now. We are planting tropicals out the front and natives out the back (all waterwise once established). We already have 4 acres of rainforest out the back and are leaving it as it is. We are under water restrictions here and will be for the foreseeable future so what's the point in putting down a lawn? We can't water it and have better things to do than mow it.
We got rid of any trees near the house so the gutters get less clogged now than they did when we lived in suburbia.
To the original OP, an acreage block needn't be much more work if you plan it properly and needn't be too far from the city if you can find the right spot. We get wallabies, deer, goanna, frogs and lots of birdlife. Have yet to see a snake and have less spiders than we did in suburbia.
Jane
P.s. when I say "we", I mean Jim. He's moving rocks around with the dingo tomorrow again.
#22
Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
After acreage, you'd never live anywhere else, unless you were physically incapable of mowing etc.
Apart from mowing there is no real extra work. Firebreaks - well, in the main that is the mowing, and the trees down the back might shelter you from ember attack in a bush fire.
Where we live, we are only 15mins from the 'town', and there are enough people that kids would always have somewhere to play.
B
Apart from mowing there is no real extra work. Firebreaks - well, in the main that is the mowing, and the trees down the back might shelter you from ember attack in a bush fire.
Where we live, we are only 15mins from the 'town', and there are enough people that kids would always have somewhere to play.
B
The blue gum wood lot is going well , we have 2 merino X sheep ,they keep any weeds at bay , life,s easy .............. mm
#23
Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by surfdude
We have a great home however we have two boys who want trail bikes and are contemplating moving to an acreage property (or building one on 11/2 acres).
We have had friends giving us conflicting stories about life on 'the land'! Always fighting off snakes - always working in the garden/clearing gutters, the insects are terrible in Summer if you don't get rid of all surrounding trees, problems with termites ect.
Anyone living on acreage at the moment - whats your view ?
We have had friends giving us conflicting stories about life on 'the land'! Always fighting off snakes - always working in the garden/clearing gutters, the insects are terrible in Summer if you don't get rid of all surrounding trees, problems with termites ect.
Anyone living on acreage at the moment - whats your view ?
*edit, Sorry I thought you wrote 11 acres. for that your would probably need a slasher.
Oh and 50 acres is about a 500m by 500m square (ish)
Last edited by arkon; Apr 13th 2006 at 1:36 pm.
#24
Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
Can someone help me understand what land dimensions are like in reality?
#25
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Re: Acreage Living
For those buying a ride-on mower, I will give you the benefit of my error: I bought a cheap mower, which is fine but what you pay extra for is a wider mowing deck (which means I could be having a beer an hour earlier) and a more powerful engine; which means in tall grass or going uphill ther mower doesn't struggle.
Just thought I'd give some free advice
Just thought I'd give some free advice
#26
Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by Amazulu
We're semi-rural in Kalamunda, 30 minutes from Perth. We're on 2500sqm, not quite acreage but it is very green & peaceful. I love living here, it's so quiet, the birds & wildlife, the big sky at night. Keeping the land maintained can be an issue but if you have a natural bush block then it's pretty maintenance free apart from the need for firebreaks.There seems to be no middle ground in property here now. It's either living in Legoland on 400-600sqm blocks in some bland, sterile 'development' like Secret Harbour or Brighton or living out here or even further out if you want some space.
Go for it.
Go for it.
#27
Re: Acreage Living
An acre is roughly 4000 sq m.
We are looking ay a Simplicity zero turn ride-on: it looks a lot more manageable than the John Deere or Toro for a small (1 acre) patch. A mulcher is a MUST when you are mowing a reasonable area, otherwise you spend half your time emptying the thing!
We are looking ay a Simplicity zero turn ride-on: it looks a lot more manageable than the John Deere or Toro for a small (1 acre) patch. A mulcher is a MUST when you are mowing a reasonable area, otherwise you spend half your time emptying the thing!
#28
Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by surfdude
We have a great home however we have two boys who want trail bikes and are contemplating moving to an acreage property (or building one on 11/2 acres).
We have had friends giving us conflicting stories about life on 'the land'! Always fighting off snakes - always working in the garden/clearing gutters, the insects are terrible in Summer if you don't get rid of all surrounding trees, problems with termites ect.
Anyone living on acreage at the moment - whats your view ?
We have had friends giving us conflicting stories about life on 'the land'! Always fighting off snakes - always working in the garden/clearing gutters, the insects are terrible in Summer if you don't get rid of all surrounding trees, problems with termites ect.
Anyone living on acreage at the moment - whats your view ?
We are still in UK and have 1.7 acres. My hubby and 2 of my 3 sons do motocross - but NOT at home on our land! The noise really would be quite disruptive to peace and quiet for the neighbours, so each weekend the boys have to get in the van and drive approx 1 hour to a practice track, where they have approx 40 minutes on a track at a cost of £20 or so each!
We are looking at moving to WA and have been reliably informed that within an hour's drive of the city the boys will be able to ride the trails all day for free! But to keep up the competition side and to meet other like-minded people they will also join a motocross club.
Perhaps this is the way to go for your family?!
#29
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Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by Wol
An acre is roughly 4000 sq m.
We are looking ay a Simplicity zero turn ride-on: it looks a lot more manageable than the John Deere or Toro for a small (1 acre) patch. A mulcher is a MUST when you are mowing a reasonable area, otherwise you spend half your time emptying the thing!
We are looking ay a Simplicity zero turn ride-on: it looks a lot more manageable than the John Deere or Toro for a small (1 acre) patch. A mulcher is a MUST when you are mowing a reasonable area, otherwise you spend half your time emptying the thing!
#30
Re: Acreage Living
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
when I told my neighbour I emptied (ie I caught my clippings) on a ordinary mower he pissed himself laughing. Everyone just lets the clippings lie on the ground.