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DianeOZ Jun 26th 2003 3:11 pm

6 months on
 
Hi

We are coming up for the 6 months mark and just thought I'd give my impressions so for. We are in Perth by the way.

Eldest son aged 8's worst dilema. "My friends here aren't as funny as my friends in England". Apart from that he has settled in really well and all the kids at school think he's pretty cool. He does miss his friends in England but has only mentioned it a couple of times so it can't be too bad.

Youngest son aged 4 has totally got into the spirit of things - walks around naked all the time and hardly wears shoes. Has started talking with an Aussie/American drawl.

Our views are:
Don't judge or compare anything - just come and accept and get on with it or else you may as well stay at home.

Take advantage of this site and your penpals and you will have an automatic social life when you get here!!

We bought a house straight away. We couldn't afford much so ended up buying in Clarkson which is a bit dodgy. But we both wanted our own home so that's what we had to do. Anyway we have no regrets at all so far. We are living within of means, have a nice house and don't know if we are just lucky or deaf or blind but we have had no problems at all in Clarkson. It may not be quite as "pristine" as the nicer suburbs but the kids are happy at school and all the people we have met here couldn't be nicer.
I cringe when people ask me where I live but maybe I should be more positive.

We both have jobs - we are just your average run of the mill folk. Hubby a screenprinter and I work in an office. When I weight it up, life is pretty much the same as in England go to work, come home, blah blah but there is not the same pressure. Maybe that's because we don't have to work so hard to get what we want, I don't know - but it's nice.

I miss my mum and friends and the fact that the kids don't see their grandparents is hard but we keep in regular contact, (not quite the same)

Everyone is different and expects different things and have different experiences but I just thought I'd let you know that in our experience maybe if you don't expect too much too soon, it may just turn out okay. It's not all strawberries and cream, there's the odd dash of salt but that's life.

Good luck to all coming and going. No desicion is the wrong desicion.

Diane & family

smithone Jun 26th 2003 3:38 pm

Honest, well written post.

Good luck to you.

pommie bastard Jun 26th 2003 3:44 pm

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by DianeOZ
Hi

We are coming up for the 6 months mark and just thought I'd give my impressions so for. We are in Perth by the way.

Eldest son aged 8's worst dilema. "My friends here aren't as funny as my friends in England". Apart from that he has settled in really well and all the kids at school think he's pretty cool. He does miss his friends in England but has only mentioned it a couple of times so it can't be too bad.

Youngest son aged 4 has totally got into the spirit of things - walks around naked all the time and hardly wears shoes. Has started talking with an Aussie/American drawl.

Our views are:
Don't judge or compare anything - just come and accept and get on with it or else you may as well stay at home.

Take advantage of this site and your penpals and you will have an automatic social life when you get here!!

We bought a house straight away. We couldn't afford much so ended up buying in Clarkson which is a bit dodgy. But we both wanted our own home so that's what we had to do. Anyway we have no regrets at all so far. We are living within of means, have a nice house and don't know if we are just lucky or deaf or blind but we have had no problems at all in Clarkson. It may not be quite as "pristine" as the nicer suburbs but the kids are happy at school and all the people we have met here couldn't be nicer.
I cringe when people ask me where I live but maybe I should be more positive.

We both have jobs - we are just your average run of the mill folk. Hubby a screenprinter and I work in an office. When I weight it up, life is pretty much the same as in England go to work, come home, blah blah but there is not the same pressure. Maybe that's because we don't have to work so hard to get what we want, I don't know - but it's nice.

I miss my mum and friends and the fact that the kids don't see their grandparents is hard but we keep in regular contact, (not quite the same)

Everyone is different and expects different things and have different experiences but I just thought I'd let you know that in our experience maybe if you don't expect too much too soon, it may just turn out okay. It's not all strawberries and cream, there's the odd dash of salt but that's life.

Good luck to all coming and going. No desicion is the wrong desicion.

Diane & family

You are a poster who makes this site worth reading , good luck with your new life.
6 months is still early in your new life so I would say you have not scrapped the surface here yet.

:D :cool: :beer:

DianeOZ Jun 26th 2003 3:52 pm

6 months on
 
True it's not a long time, just our impressions so far. I'll do another when a year is up. I've been told 2 years is the timescale to base any major desicisions on. When did you realise this was not for you.?

Diane

pommie bastard Jun 26th 2003 4:00 pm

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by DianeOZ
True it's not a long time, just our impressions so far. I'll do another when a year is up. I've been told 2 years is the timescale to base any major desicisions on. When did you realise this was not for you.?

Diane
We took 2 years to settle down here and have just grown tired of Perth and its limatations after 9 years , if you enjoy Clarkson then you have much to look forward too.
Our life here has been a step down in many things but I can see that many who like yourself who just need a home and a paying job will be happy with what is on offer.
My wife has been trying to make me up sticks for years as she is bored of the landscape and the few places of interest here.
We will miss some great friends we have here but having no family in Perth is a minus.



:D :cool: :beer:

Kath Jun 26th 2003 5:12 pm

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by pommie bastard
We took 2 years to settle down here and have just grown tired of Perth and its limatations after 9 years , if you enjoy Clarkson then you have much to look forward too.
Our life here has been a step down in many things but I can see that many who like yourself who just need a home and a paying job will be happy with what is on offer.
My wife has been trying to make me up sticks for years as she is bored of the landscape and the few places of interest here.
We will miss some great friends we have here but having no family in Perth is a minus.



:D :cool: :beer:
PB - Did you ever consider moving within Australia eg. Sydney or Melbourne?

After 1 year in Perth I'm not sure about us living here long term and think the Melbourne area might suit us more. Would appreciate your comments.

pommie bastard Jun 26th 2003 5:23 pm

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by Kath
PB - Did you ever consider moving within Australia eg. Sydney or Melbourne?

After 1 year in Perth I'm not sure about us living here long term and think the Melbourne area might suit us more. Would appreciate your comments.
I did but had problems trying to convince my wife who said the next move was back home.
Melbourne has more life and more European , its hard knowing where anyone will feel at home , we have never referred to Perth as home its been a long holiday which has gone on to long.

:D :cool:

Kath Jun 26th 2003 5:34 pm

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by pommie bastard
I did but had problems trying to convince my wife who said the next move was back home.
Melbourne has more life and more European , its hard knowing where anyone will feel at home , we have never refered to Perth as home its been a long holiday which has gone on to long.

:D :cool:
I can understand how your wife feels. Maybe I need to get back to the UK for a bit to see how I feel, I can't mess our children about too much, we need to make a decision in the next year or two. Have you been back to the UK much in past 9 years?

Pollyana Jun 26th 2003 5:47 pm

Hi Diane & family,
Just to say glad everything is going well; and it must help a lot that the kids are happy!
Maybe I'm being naive, but your comment about life being pretty much the same, but with less pressure rather describes what I'm expecting - or hoping for at least.
Hope things continue to go well - & look forward to reading the next instalment in 6 months time, when hopefully I shall be in Oz too.

pommie bastard Jun 26th 2003 5:49 pm

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by Kath
I can understand how your wife feels. Maybe I need to get back to the UK for a bit to see how I feel, I can't mess our children about too much, we need to make a decision in the next year or two. Have you been back to the UK much in past 9 years?

We have been a few times but the wife never wants to come back to Perth so its even more unsettling .
Has I have said before we enjoyed our life in the Uk and most of our family are doing great , we found that though all would ask hows Australia but most cared not about Australia as their lifes are full .
Friends we have here who go back and whinge about the UK has changed for the worse and moan that it was raining a few days are those who family back there care not about stories of big homes and pools.

:D :cool: :beer:

Kath Jun 26th 2003 6:01 pm

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by pommie bastard
We have been a few times but the wife never wants to come back to Perth so its even more unsettling .
Has I have said before we enjoyed our life in the Uk and most of our family is doing great , we found that though all would ask hows Australia and most cared not about Australia as their lifes are full .
Friends we have here who go back and whinge about the UK has changed for the worse and moan that it was raining a few days are those who family back there care not about stories of big homes and pools.

:D :cool: :beer:
Thanks for the comments. Like you we enjoyed our life in the UK, we didn't 'escape' to Perth because of our miserable lives! A few early deaths in the family made us want to get out there and explore the world and we are enjoying the change. I can't help looking long term and in the future I'm sure we'll be back in the UK or over to Melbourne.

Good luck on your return to the UK.

pommie bastard Jun 26th 2003 6:04 pm

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by Kath
Thanks for the comments. Like you we enjoyed our life in the UK, we didn't 'escape' to Perth because of our miserable lives! A few early deaths in the family made us want to get out there and explore the world and we are enjoying the change. I can't help looking long term and in the future I'm sure we'll be back in the UK or over to Melbourne.

Good luck on your return to the UK.
Thankyou its nice not getting into a pointless debate , good luck to you and your Family.



:D :cool: :beer:

dotty Jun 26th 2003 7:15 pm

What an great honest post. Lets hope no idiots wreck it.

Good luck to you and your family too.

gsidhu Jun 26th 2003 8:10 pm

I would just like to add to PBs comments about not having family.

For me this has been a key decision, I have good family in Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney. I do like the look of Perth but
realistically for a me a single person immigrating to a town where
I have no family nor friends isnt appealing - plus as its around the
size of Adelaide opportunties I think are really limited compared to Melbourne and Sydney.

One thing that amazes me on reading some posts are how people
immigrate without being there having no friends and family neither, my balls are big but not that big.

Anyway good read Diane - look forward to reading
your next post.

Cheers
--

Gee
Melby 04

ellen1 Jun 26th 2003 8:42 pm


Originally posted by dotty
What an great honest post. Lets hope no idiots wreck it.

Good luck to you and your family too.
whoops a daisy! idiot on line!!

:(

whisky Jun 26th 2003 9:02 pm

Nice to read you account on your time so far. Straight to the point.

PB, Thankyou also for the straightforward account of your time and your reasons why you are returning to the UK.

whisky Jun 26th 2003 9:02 pm

Nice to read you account on your time so far. Straight to the point.

PB, Thankyou also for the straightforward account of your time and your reasons why you are returning to the UK.

OzOgs Jun 27th 2003 12:37 am

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by Kath
PB - Did you ever consider moving within Australia eg. Sydney or Melbourne?

After 1 year in Perth I'm not sure about us living here long term and think the Melbourne area might suit us more. Would appreciate your comments.
Hi

we've been in Melbourne for a year now (from Oxford, UK) and after the initial culture shock we really appreciate the enormous diversity of things to do - there's almost always something on or somewhere to go at weekends, and its fantastic for great restaurants, gigs and theatre, sports fans (particularly F1!), and a generally laid back but full lifestyle, even with a toddler. We are within easy driving distance of the beaches and sea in summer and the mountains in winter.

My husband travels extensively with his job and has been to Perth, which we were really interested in, but he considered it a little remote and without the great range of activities outside the city itself, we decided to stay put.

Downsides? It's not very attractive as cities go! (Whatever did they do with all the Victorian buildings??) It's relatively expensive to buy here (we bought as soon as possible while we could still afford to) but our standard of living has improved 100% from the UK, where we thought we were doing OK.

If you're not settled in Perth, its certainly worth a look at Melbourne. Good luck!

Dawn

grubelice Jun 27th 2003 2:05 am

It has been a real pleasure reading these postings. Nice one Diane and Mr Pommie. It is good to read an honest appraisal (Diane's) and the appreciation of it (Mr Pommie). Diane - don't ever be ashamed of where you live (ie that area of Perth) you have come by your abode honestly and need to feel pround of that. I agree with the other poster that it is good to go somewhere where you at least no somebody. I am going to Adelaide as I have some cousins there as I am going on my own. Having read much on this forum (the sensible advice) I am concerned about staying around Adelaide as it sounds like there is a bit of an anti about immigrant workers. May sound naive but is there no legislation regarding this discrimination. I will give it a go and obviously am going with a very open mind. I may have to move to Melborne where there are probably more job opportunities. Either that or pop of to work in Asia, but make sure that I stay at least 2 years out of the 5 (I am a college lecturer/secondary school teacher)

Elaine

janeyray Jun 27th 2003 3:09 am

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by DianeOZ
Hi

We are coming up for the 6 months mark and just thought I'd give my impressions so for. We are in Perth by the way.

Diane & family
Hi Diane, Glad to hear you are settling in. We have been here four months and we are living in Dianella (renting) but have just put an offer on a house in Ellenbrook (kind of up you way!) We have a 6 year old daughter. If you want to get in touch ever, let me know, it can be hard when the homesickness start creeping in!! My husband is a wood machinist and I do Customer Services (when I can get a job) Jane x :)

paulf Jun 27th 2003 8:11 am

Great Post. This is how things should be, Even ole PB is making perfect sense, good post and good responses, nice.:)

Stoney Jun 27th 2003 9:25 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dotty
What an great honest post. Lets hope no idiots wreck it.



Just when it looks like a polite thread the "nice" lady turns up and says something "nice"
tut tut

Stoney Jun 27th 2003 9:37 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dotty
What an great honest post. Lets hope no idiots wreck it.



This was said about you in a recent post Dotty couldnt be more true:-


Why do it? Even when you start a thread there's usually some kind of remark to trigger a conflict, then you just blame eveyone else!
Like everyone says time & time again, it's not the negative comments we don't like, it's the manner in which they are delivered.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...400#post850400

janeyray Jun 29th 2003 12:56 am

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by DianeOZ
Hi

Diane & family
Hi Diane,

I got your message thanks and have replied and given you my email address.
Jane x

pommie bastard Jun 29th 2003 12:07 pm


Originally posted by ellen1
whoops a daisy! idiot on line!!

:(
Do not be too hard on yourself ellen , refugees are never that bright .



:cool: :beer: :cool:

David Ford Jun 29th 2003 6:53 pm

Diane

I endorse what others have said - a well written and informative posting.


www.pentran.com.au

kerrylm Jun 30th 2003 8:15 am

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by OzOgs
Hi

we've been in Melbourne for a year now (from Oxford, UK) and after the initial culture shock we really appreciate the enormous diversity of things to do - there's almost always something on or somewhere to go at weekends, and its fantastic for great restaurants, gigs and theatre, sports fans (particularly F1!), and a generally laid back but full lifestyle, even with a toddler. We are within easy driving distance of the beaches and sea in summer and the mountains in winter.

My husband travels extensively with his job and has been to Perth, which we were really interested in, but he considered it a little remote and without the great range of activities outside the city itself, we decided to stay put.

Downsides? It's not very attractive as cities go! (Whatever did they do with all the Victorian buildings??) It's relatively expensive to buy here (we bought as soon as possible while we could still afford to) but our standard of living has improved 100% from the UK, where we thought we were doing OK.

hi

We are thinking of Melbourne ourselves. Maybe Frankston/Geelong. Any advice or tips on areas would be a great help. What part are you in?
If you're not settled in Perth, its certainly worth a look at Melbourne. Good luck!

Dawn

unrefined_mind Jun 30th 2003 8:56 am

Diane

Great insight and help to all considering the move, so many questions we all want to know and good to hear from one who has crossed over, good luck for your future.

Thanks

-----

I would like to add to Ellen1 and Stoney, you have tried to ruin this post with your bitter remarks, no one else, if you don't like someone, stay away.....please keep this thread clear of this sort of reply as Diane has started a good one here.

MartyO Jun 30th 2003 10:05 am


Originally posted by unrefined_mind
Diane

I would like to add to Ellen1 and Stoney, you have tried to ruin this post with your bitter remarks, no one else, if you don't like someone, stay away.....please keep this thread clear of this sort of reply as Diane has started a good one here.


Here, here, here. We constantly get the so called anti-negative posters baiting. Leave whatever issues you may have to one side particularly when we have a series of posts as informative and 'real' as this.

These are the posts I learn the most from - people who have been there (particularly to Perth where I have visited and hope to settle) and who open up to their experiences and feelings. Best of luck to you all.

Martin

chippy Jun 30th 2003 10:48 am

Re: 6 months on
 

Originally posted by DianeOZ
Hi

We are coming up for the 6 months mark and just thought I'd give my impressions so for. We are in Perth by the way.

Eldest son aged 8's worst dilema. "My friends here aren't as funny as my friends in England". Apart from that he has settled in really well and all the kids at school think he's pretty cool. He does miss his friends in England but has only mentioned it a couple of times so it can't be too bad.

Youngest son aged 4 has totally got into the spirit of things - walks around naked all the time and hardly wears shoes. Has started talking with an Aussie/American drawl.

Our views are:
Don't judge or compare anything - just come and accept and get on with it or else you may as well stay at home.

Take advantage of this site and your penpals and you will have an automatic social life when you get here!!

We bought a house straight away. We couldn't afford much so ended up buying in Clarkson which is a bit dodgy. But we both wanted our own home so that's what we had to do. Anyway we have no regrets at all so far. We are living within of means, have a nice house and don't know if we are just lucky or deaf or blind but we have had no problems at all in Clarkson. It may not be quite as "pristine" as the nicer suburbs but the kids are happy at school and all the people we have met here couldn't be nicer.
I cringe when people ask me where I live but maybe I should be more positive.

We both have jobs - we are just your average run of the mill folk. Hubby a screenprinter and I work in an office. When I weight it up, life is pretty much the same as in England go to work, come home, blah blah but there is not the same pressure. Maybe that's because we don't have to work so hard to get what we want, I don't know - but it's nice.

I miss my mum and friends and the fact that the kids don't see their grandparents is hard but we keep in regular contact, (not quite the same)

Everyone is different and expects different things and have different experiences but I just thought I'd let you know that in our experience maybe if you don't expect too much too soon, it may just turn out okay. It's not all strawberries and cream, there's the odd dash of salt but that's life.

Good luck to all coming and going. No desicion is the wrong desicion.

Diane & family

Yes, this is what this forum needs, more posters from Oz, especially recent arrivals.

Stoney Jun 30th 2003 10:57 am


Originally posted by unrefined_mind
Diane

Great insight and help to all considering the move, so many questions we all want to know and good to hear from one who has crossed over, good luck for your future.

Thanks

-----

I would like to add to Ellen1 and Stoney, you have tried to ruin this post with your bitter remarks, no one else, if you don't like someone, stay away.....please keep this thread clear of this sort of reply as Diane has started a good one here.


Please note first shitty remark by Dotty.....Great post otherwise
If you are going to comment at least see both sides.

MartyO Jun 30th 2003 11:11 am


Originally posted by Stoney
Please note first shitty remark by Dotty.....Great post otherwise
If you are going to comment at least see both sides.

This post wasn't about 'both sides'. It was almost for once the real side.

dotty Jun 30th 2003 11:18 am


Originally posted by Stoney
Please note first shitty remark by Dotty.....Great post otherwise
If you are going to comment at least see both sides.

Dont be so Gutless Stoney. Dont blame me for your foulmouthed, abusive sick obsessive posts.

Frankly Stoney I am getting sick of your total obsession with my posts a fact that has been noticed by many here.

My comment here was that this was a great post (discussion with varying points of view) and that I hoped it would not be wrecked by Idiots.

You and ellen are the only ones wrecking it, with your continual obsessive hatred of someone because they have done so bloody well in OZ.

You spit venom with every post I put here, you are green with envy and hatred. Obsession is not healthy mate, especialy when it is with a figure on the internet!

What is your point here anyway? You dont live in OZ, you post foul language, argue with anyone who has a bad comment on OZ. A fact that has been commented on by many here.

You are wasting your time with posting your spewing venom to me anymore IGNORE has been activated.

Sorry to Dianne for putting this in your post but Stoneys vendetta against me has gone too far.

Stoney get some help mate before it destroys you. Goodbye.

smithone Jun 30th 2003 11:32 am

I think you should use the personal message option to direct your personal grievances rather than clutter the airways with post like this.

DianeOZ Jun 30th 2003 12:54 pm

Thanks for the words of appreciation for my post. I haven't posted that many cos as I say everyone is different and may not
see my experiences as relevant but I feel quite chuffed now and will try to contribute a bit more.

Diane:p

Stoney Jun 30th 2003 9:35 pm


Originally posted by DianeOZ
Thanks for the words of appreciation for my post. I haven't posted that many cos as I say everyone is different and may not
see my experiences as relevant but I feel quite chuffed now and will try to contribute a bit more.

Diane:p
Hi Diane,
Keep up with the good posts both positive and negative it's all relevant to us immo's.
Dotty chooses to think that they are personal attacks and refuses to see why people get so angry with her.
The amount of people who wont post on here because of her and her "gang" is quite frightening.

Stoney Jun 30th 2003 9:54 pm


Originally posted by MartyO
This post wasn't about 'both sides'. It was almost for once the real side.
I was commenting on Dottys first attack which she accuses everyone else of doing not Dianes excellent post
I think you are guilty of getting involved in protecting Dotty when in fact she can be the rudest poster on here when she chooses
As long as Dotty PB etc choose to hurl insults around then so will I
I will stop when they do.
I see it as a "result" that Dotty has chosen the "ignore" option as it is a small step in redressing the balance of all the posters who have chosen to ignore her and her bunch of trolls

MartyO Jul 1st 2003 12:16 am


Originally posted by Stoney
I was commenting on Dottys first attack which she accuses everyone else of doing not Dianes excellent post
I think you are guilty of getting involved in protecting Dotty when in fact she can be the rudest poster on here when she chooses
As long as Dotty PB etc choose to hurl insults around then so will I
I will stop when they do.
I see it as a "result" that Dotty has chosen the "ignore" option as it is a small step in redressing the balance of all the posters who have chosen to ignore her and her bunch of trolls

I wasn't trying to protect anyone. I don't know Dotty as much as I don't know you - nor do I have anything against either of you. But, responding to and taking whatever opportunity presents itself to continue past grievances begins to be an end in itself and defeats the purpose of this forum. This is made still worse when it interferes with a particularly good post.

Stoney Jul 1st 2003 3:28 am


Originally posted by MartyO
I wasn't trying to protect anyone. I don't know Dotty as much as I don't know you - nor do I have anything against either of you. But, responding to and taking whatever opportunity presents itself to continue past grievances begins to be an end in itself and defeats the purpose of this forum. This is made still worse when it interferes with a particularly good post.




Then why didnt you comment on Dottys initial snide remark?????

suebo Jul 1st 2003 4:45 am

This is Dianes thread, so can we please keep it at that!!! :)

Diane there is no shame in saying that you live in Clarkson. Clarkson is where all the "first" home buyers flock to and after a couple of years move on the a more expensive suburb. I have a house in Marangaroo, which when we built the house was another "first" home buyers area. Although I don't live in OZ at the moment, I still have my house there and will tell anyone gladly that is where it is. Be proud of your house and where you live and make the most of it
Cheers :)


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