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Old Mar 13th 2012, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by commonwealth
The idea of governments using resource profits to prop up / subsidise other industries will only be wasteful. The money should instead be invested in education and infrastructure. These are the only real insurance to a better future. Leave the rest to the markets.
No the governments role is to do more than manage. The sort of dog eat dog society you are suggesting would be diabolical.
The markets only interest is profit, it is the governments task in a civilised nation to look after those with disabilities or somehow infirm and the aged etc. If anything the ability of the market in any shape or form to be expected to anyhow impact on people's lives remotely positively has been well and truely put to rest.
Let's get away from markets and get back to the human condition.
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Old Mar 13th 2012, 12:38 pm
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Hopefully there are not too many thoughts like this around. Otherwise we as a society are in deep trouble.
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Originally Posted by harrip
Just how much do we need to spend on education? I'd have thought the $16 billion spent as part of the stimulus plan would have been enough to keep education going for a bit.
Agree. Such a lose term. So many folk doing study after study here in OZ. Not sure for what purpose. Money for the Unis of course. At work training after training some okay but a lot second rate, folk repeating what they learnt at a previous training. Often waste of time and resources.
Issues of management incompetence meanwhile remain unresolved.
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Originally Posted by nandnor
fools are those that DONT make use of the boom to rake in the cash. if the prices come down later, none of the ores and fuels will be of much use then. so letting. and appreciating currency bad? come on mate. it greatly increases consumer wealth. and what is the goal of an economy again? thats right, to increase consumer wealth.
It is actually to secure something in place of value that will sustain the population not if, but when the 'boom' concludes. Short termism is the death of a economy when the longer term has not been factored in.
Global examples look at Nauru, once the richest republic in the world. Now living in close to poverty wanting an Aussie funded detention centre to make ends meet.
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Old Mar 13th 2012, 12:53 pm
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nauru . . . what a nice comparison.
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Did you know that a significant reason for the underperformance of many domestic sectors of the economy is that Australians are deleveraging and refuse to pump spending into the economy despite the relatively higher household income compared to pre-GFC levels?

Australian savings rate is at multi-decade highs and Australians have learned from the Europeans and Americans that debt-binge spending and living beyond your means is a recipe for disaster. The big banks are desperately trying to grow their loan books, and they are competing for the level of saving deposits that have not been seen for many years.

Many domestic sectors (more significantly retail and domestic travel and services) are obviously affected by this deleveraging process, but I tend to think this is a painful but necessary process to avoid future debt blow-outs and liquidity problems.

Those who refuse to adapt by increasing productivity, by differentiating, etc are bound to lose.
Australians are finally starting to wake uo and save for good reason. Boom times don't last in the so called 'boom states'worse thing that happened to WA in my view, but never the less, other states such as Victoria and NSW are not part of this so called'boom' and rightly conserve capital for the rough times ahead.
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nauru . . . what a nice comparison.
It is when you think about it from richest to poorest....hysterical indeed.....very fitting
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As I stated, in deep,deep trouble indeed.. back to the old tried tested and failed...
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Australians are finally starting to wake uo and save for good reason. Boom times don't last in the so called 'boom states'worse thing that happened to WA in my view, but never the less, other states such as Victoria and NSW are not part of this so called'boom' and rightly conserve capital for the rough times ahead.
The GST allocations to these mining states are falling. One method of redistributing the proceeds from the boom.
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