NEWCOMO

Alongside the Romans... Maybe this is the end of the Empire as well...

Capo Boi

There was quite a funny April fool joke this year in one of the Northern dailies saying that in the event of a No vote, the UK's nuclear weapons would be transferred to Sunderland. Caused quite a stir with lots of people falling for it.

Actually, Falmouth would probably be the base.

Garbatellamike

There is some truth in what you say in other bits of your last post but the quote above is complete and utter horses doodah! A ridiculous assertion!

Garbatellamike

Wow you are bitter aren't you some incredibly negative stereotyping here!

NEWCOMO

Actually this is EU law.

When Great Britain signed in 1973 Scotland was part of the Union. As it is not or will be a party, then Great Britain is not the same. Hence Spain has a problem with both Basque area and Catalans and this would cause a similar problem.

Every British Passport is a EU Passport. Not a British Passport - It follows EU standards... Pink, (as similar to everyone else in EU)... and a back page.

On the 18.9.2014, the Great Britain as in Wiki does not exist, and thus under EU law does not exist. I am being told, that some EU/Major countries will not accept British passports on 19.9 as valid as Scotland would have their own or would be able to issue their own.

This is a major issue which the Tories are not thinking about. It is very serious.

NEWCOMO

I cannot be happy with the word "British" if that you want to be told. I don't think, Indians, Irish, Africans, Caribbeans, Pakistanis, Palestinians, can thank the British for anything.

As we move into the 21st Century, Britain still thinks it is a major power... when it is a small minded country without an empire. An everyone wants to be a Dame, Sir or a Lord.

I am just pleased that when Scotland does wake up to being a free country in 3 weeks, it can be finally free from the word "British".

Yes. I have a British Passport, but I am not proud to be British at all.

Garbatellamike

OK thanks for sharing all that, much appreciated - it puts your comments into perspective for me. I hope you get the result you want if it is that important to you.

However, for 92% of the UK population this issue is completely irrelevant in the big scheme of things, therefore, I can't get excited about it.

NEWCOMO

How can you be completely blasé about this.

If you think Scotland independence has no impact on the rest of UK and everything in UK then you must be listening to a Tory political broadcast on complete repeat.

If Scotland goes independence, there will be no UK, no nuclear in Scotland, No BBC, The Royal Bank of Scotland, bailed out by British Taxpayers will be Scottish.

Scotland will have no debt at formation, but oil production worth billions. A new Norway.

More debt for England/Wales and Northern Ireland as Scotland will not be responsible for that debt that will make the Bank of England have to raise Interest rates to service that debt amongst less population.

The credit rating of the "little Britain" will be AA from AA++ and in 10 years, the country will be at the doors of the IMF if it is not imploded before then.

The queen and her kids will have left no doubt to Jersey (if not to the Isle of Wright) to recreate a lost Empire.

Scotland already have their own government, law, health so it is a simple transition but to say most 92 per cent of the country do not care on its impact, you must be crazy !

If Scotland goes independent, Wales are already talking next and SF in Northern Ireland about an united Ireland since republicans outnumber unionists.

This is a major event in British History. One that can end the royal family and everything British. So 92 percent of UK don't care then that is totally stupid !!

Garbatellamike

good luck again in getting the result you want!

NEWCOMO

Mr Darling has already stated that NEW Scotland would have no access to the BoE funding and that Scotland would be free from all UK debt. At over 1tn (1000 billion GbP) this is massive get out for scotland.

Anyone paying a mortgage in England/Wales/NI would expect interest rates to rise immediately and even tax rises to service more debt/less population.

So Economics...

Since Northern Bank, Bank of Scotland, and the Bank of England issue pounds (Irish Pounds, Scottish Pounds and English Pounds) since pounds are not legal tender in law, so pounds are promissory notes issued by Bank of England via these issuers so bank of Scotland will continue to issue Scottish Pounds regardless of the Bank of England as they is no legal definition of pounds in law.

This is no different to the Central Bank of Ireland which issues notes in Ireland which were called Irish Punts... (Irish Pounds) until Ireland became a Euro member in 1999.

So if Scotland has it own central bank, it will be free from debt, can issue paper against a conservative (Mr Darling) 6byn GBP per year revenue (tax) to gain around 60 byn short term credit over 10 years. This is massive for 5 million population and no assumption of taxation.

It is a new norway. Economically strong.

Garbatellamike

please fix the quote above you have wrongly attributed to me

Sancho

Does morality come into it anywhere ? Self-respect ? Or is it all just real-politik nowadays, like supermarkets ?

marcuzzo

I'm waiting for Renzi to make an offer to the scots to become party of the new Italian empire!! We could do with some oil money at the moment....although they'd probably manage to blow that on "feste" and bunga bunga too!

37100

Oh what rubbish! The UK is a member of the EU. It will still be the UK without Scotland. As to the EU countries non excepting British passports...please!

HADENOUGHPIZZA

surely the date of 18/09/2014 is just the date of the referendum ? the date on which Scotland will ( if the yes vote wins ) become officially independant from the UK has yet to be established and would probably not be before 2016 . Who is telling you that a UK passport won't be valid as of 19/09 ?