Redlippie

This story just tickled my funny bone.

http://mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?art...ews__national/

http://mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?art..._and_analysis/

Quote:

It is in the gulf between their stark grief and the cold comfort of Mbeki’s online response -- that the deaths of their babies were statistically average -- that we can see what is happening. That letter, too confident by half in its intellectual posturing, and Mbeki’s actions since he wrote it, typify a political culture that is under serious threat

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He's a real piece of work.

duglambier

I just read a report indicating these following informations in SA :
- 700 000 to 800 000 dead / year (350 000 from HIV)
- 1 000 000 births / year
- 42 years life expectancy
- Population : about 46 000 000 (hard to count all the illegal immigrants from Zim )

Pablo

More Manto...

The war between the Sunday Times and Health Minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang continued in this weekend's edition of the newspaper. It alleged that she had required her liver transplant this year because she was an alcoholic, and that she had been convicted of theft while working in Botswana in 1976.
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx...ticleId=316910

Daxk

I think it's sooo Funny!!!
I can see Uncle Thabo going "Ooooohh F*$%!!"

Redlippie

I read it last night and smiled. They've given the finger to old T-Bo, haven't they.

Heads will roll. Why? Not due to incompetence, but due to the fact that they did not censor the S.T. this week.

Daxk

No Way!!!!Thabo's hanging onto every bit of support he can

Redlippie

Watch. Some lackey will get it for not using Big Brother tactics against the S.T.

Juggernaut

you failed because we have different histories. we're all third world ..thats it.

Not only the masses but also the white non-masses have that expectation. They keep on reminding the government that it has already been 14 years since 'democracy' .As you say it took centuries to create a first world nation.

It already has there is already protest about non delivery in a quite a few areas. You know what they say ...Ask and you shall receive....maybe. lets see.

Pablo

Yet more Manto. It was reported on BBC radio last night that Mbeki had personally and inappropriately intevened with the hospital where Manto was, to order that she be given preferential treatment.

None of this is a question of patient confidentiality, as some apologists for the ANC are trying to make out. This is a question of corruption, abuse of power, and hypocrisy.

Stanley10

Which Mbeki has denied, his word against whose? An annonymous source?

The National Health Act states, "all information concerning a user, including information relating to his or her health status, treatment or stay in a health establishment, is confidential". Clearly this confidentiality has been breached, the newspapers argument is that it is the 'public interest" to do so. Whether or not the "public interest" is a good enough reason to publish such information , and whether or not Manto's case is in the public interest, I guess will be for the courts to decide should Manto continue with legal proceedings, not the editor of The Sunday Times.

I have no doubt that Manto is incompetent and should go, however I also think the Sunday Times has gone to far in this case.

Pablo

You do not think that the health minister's incompetence might be linked to her alleged alcoholism? You do not think that it is in the public interest that abuse of power ought to be exposed?

Stanley10

As you say "alleged". Even if true it may not have a bearing on her competance. (Didn't Churchill like a drink?)

Sure it's in the public interest, but put the shoe on the other foot, how would you feel if some journalist decided it was in the public interest to publish your medical history?

Tegwyn

They do that in this country when a public official/celebrity/any one with financial and power takes advantage of the system. I don't think anyone gives a toss whether Manto likes a drink or six. It's about manipulating the system for a vital organ that should have gone to someone more deserving. It's also about functioning in the position she was given by her comrade. Her "skills" need sharpening or at the very least, give her a position as a typist if the job is above her.

Stanley10

So there is no Doctor / patient confidentiality.

Tegwyn

Things like organ transplant favoritism when the recipient should not qualify most certainly hits the news. Larry Hagman and his doctors took the heat for quite some time because of that. That event shut down loop holes as this should do the same in S.A. This is not about personal abuse of health but denying a life saving organ from going to a qualifying patient. She obviously was not and is not judging by her behaviour. Under normal circumstances, she would have been required to clean up before even being placed on the transplant list.