West Coast / Bay Area - Tips
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P.S. If someone is considering moving here they should be aware of the downside. The degradation and despair of your fellow citizens must be of some concern?
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Perhaps you can tell me if any of the points I've made are invalid? and if you and he aren't bothered by them, then that's fine.
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It's more the unrelenting negativity of your posts about the Bay Area that I notice. Yes, there are significant problems here - traffic and cost being two of them - but (i) for me, at least, there are significant upsides of being here as well - for example, I've never lived anywhere with such a plethora of hiking opportunities; and (ii) if I felt as negative about where I was living as you seem to, I would do something about it.
Last edited by Giantaxe; Oct 23rd 2017 at 11:22 pm.
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It's more the unrelenting negativity of your posts about the Bay Area that I notice. Yes, there are significant problems here - traffic and cost being two of them - but (i) for me, at least, there are significant upsides of being here as well - for example, I've never lived anywhere with such a plethora of hiking opportunities; and (ii) if I felt as negative about where I was living as you seem to, I would do something about it.
It is OK to have a different perspective on things isn't? I'm not asking you anyone else to agree with me. I've lived here for 47 years and quality of life here has deteriorated in the last decade. Just a my opinion don't take it so personally.
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I don't want an adversarial with you I generally agree with you on most issues.
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So, no, the Bay Area isn't perfect, it has lots of problems and it certainly isn't for everybody but I don't regret moving here and I don't regret still being here and I wouldn't discourage someone from coming here provided that they had a realistic set of expectations.
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Just like some people in Mallorca wish it was the island it used to be or the people who knew Benidorm as a quaint fishing village. Of course we all have to move on and adapt but most people wouldn't want a motorway in their back garden if the reason they moved to a place was the peaceful back garden etc.
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Imho the Bay area remains a wonderful area but I think posts here are very fair in the interests of truly providing a 'picture' of what it has become in the last 20-25 years. Like many places it is now overcrowded and over priced. I've lived in the city, south of the city, Marin and the East Bay. Now I would not move back there for less than 200-250K p.a. to maintain current lifestyle. As a newcomer to the area it will hit anyone like a ton of bricks house prices and rents are terrible, commuting is a nightmare. As an example in Walnut Creek I was offered a house in 1991 for $150, same house now between 1-1.5 million.
Just use the techie's favorite real estate website to see what you are coming to for prices and rent:
https://www.redfin.com/
The Bay area is a beautiful place to visit but not so to live and work if you have to commute god help you. And do consider that the reason hiring is taking place from out of the area is that many many people are trying their damndest to get out!
Just use the techie's favorite real estate website to see what you are coming to for prices and rent:
https://www.redfin.com/
The Bay area is a beautiful place to visit but not so to live and work if you have to commute god help you. And do consider that the reason hiring is taking place from out of the area is that many many people are trying their damndest to get out!
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Hiring, especially in high tech, has taken place from outside the area for the last half century. The consequent growth in population is the major reason for the area's cost and traffic woes.
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Indeed - and for everyone who is trying to get "out" of the area there are many more hopefuls trying to get "in" ...