Jerseygirl

That depends how he's entered Canada. If it's by road you don't need to produce anything to leave the US...you don't see or speak to anyone on the US side.

What you show Canadian IOs is of no concern of the US. My daughter enters Canada using her UK PP...because it contains her Canadian student/temp work visa.

celticgrid

You can obtain an Enhanced Driving License in certain northern states, valid for exit and entry by land or sea. Not valid for international flights.

However, it is a way to leave and return legally, and isn't a passport. And is specifically for USCs, i.e. not an option for LPRs.

nettlebed

I was, but I deferred my trip until I got my passport (only took a week). It wasn't urgent travel, so no biggie.

Rete

first post quoted originally

BG's refutal


Here you go. You did infact say just that. I didn't make it up. US Citizen's do NOT need a US Passport to leave the US. They need a US Passport to re-enter the US as a USC.

Since the OP has a UK Passport the only document that he could not have according to you in order to leave the US correctly is a US Passport. I didn't make it up. It is want was clearly explicit in your post.

First post quoted originally

Refutal
Since you agreed with Bob you have stated it as well. It is NOT unusual to leave the US without an I-94 and it is certainly NOT unusual to enter Canada and not receive one as well.

Both of you are incorrect as evidenced by the fact that the OP was allowed into Canada. He is going to Canada, not the EU. The rules are different which is something both of you have ignored.

Rete

PS If the OP is refused entry on his return, then he gets a nice place to stay in Canada and awaits the arrival of his US Passport ordered from the US Consulate. Since it is the company that wanted him there, the company should be paying the costs involved.

celticgrid

To be strictly accurate...

Unless they enter by land or sea on an EDL. See #47

Jerseygirl

Is that the NEXUS?

nettlebed

No. NEXUS is a pre-clearance which allows you to use express lanes at some border crossings. You still need a valid travel document.

BritishGuy36

a) You missed out the word 'legally' (which one word changes your statement from true to false, which is why I suspect you aren't including it in your statement). So why have most of the board been of this opinion since before I joined? Have they all been making it up?

b) Quite frankly, one person's entry into a country isn't conclusive evidence of anything.

We'd be going round in circles with this for a long time, plus you've taken the hump.

I suggest we forget about it and see what happens on the re-entry attempt (if the OP comes back to tell us).

Bob

It's not a necessity no, but someone with a UK passport that doesn't have a US passport would normally have a I-94 and they like to see that you'll head back to the US, that and they do hop across the road to the US side to talk about you.

Canadians don't use the VWP like a Brit would.

lansbury

I think in fact your circumstances are not that common. Most of us if we travel would be going back home or at least somewhere other than a country like Canada which has had more informal travel arrangements with the US than is the normal. In those circumstances most if not all would not travel without a US passport.

The interest is because we are unaware of anyone who has tried to leave and come back using their naturalization certificate and we are curious to see what happens in real life as opposed to what "the book" says should happen. I can't see how CBP can deny entry to a US citizen coming back to their own country, just what the inconveniences might be is what makes it interesting. Anyway hope it isn't too much hassle.

Jerseygirl

We've had similar discussions before...the general opinion was (if I remember correctly) that a person probably would not incurr a hefty fine but probably would be detained for a hour or so. Like you said I don't think we've had a USC post who has actually entered without the correct PP.

meauxna

We ran into a similar situation when DH naturalized a couple of years ago. We already had a big Mexico trip booked and the oath got scheduled a week before departure.
At the time, he could still have traveled to Mexico with just the certificate, but it didn't seem like a good idea to drag it around backpacking. We drove 3 hours to the Passport Authority office and got him his US passport and spent the day out of town to accomplish that.

The travel document requirements changed in June of this year, as I posted before. There's been plenty of warning that this was coming and while I agree that the border agent may admit you with the documents you have, you should NOT consider declaring yourself as a UK citizen when you arrive.
Be on the up and up with them about your US citizenship or the consequences could be worse (no, I'm not going to look them up but someone here may know).

Okachickima

Until recent years (after 9/11) U. S. citizens departing for or entering from any country in North or South America except Cuba were exempted by regulation from the U. S. passport requirement.

At the present time passports are required for people traveling by air unless it is one of the airports that is set up to handle the NEXUS card. People entering by land or sea can use either the actual passport, the new passport card, or one of a number of "WHTI compliant" documents that include driver licenses from many states:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

As far as the requirement to actually have the document on your person when leaving the country is concerned the only place you are at all likely to be bothered with that is on a commercial flight.

frrussre

Reg. Frank R