What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
#31
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
No of course they dont, but as I said there are international EU agreements in place and that does effect things
Bit like the international double taxation agreement, for instance.
All countries participate in it
An as I said, there is a letter from Traffico that exists confirming the licences are acceptable. I have a copy somewhere, although Ive never needed to use it, but I do remember a thread somewhere when someone did use it when challenged about their UK licence by Guardia, and they then accepted it.
Bit like the international double taxation agreement, for instance.
All countries participate in it
An as I said, there is a letter from Traffico that exists confirming the licences are acceptable. I have a copy somewhere, although Ive never needed to use it, but I do remember a thread somewhere when someone did use it when challenged about their UK licence by Guardia, and they then accepted it.
The rules used to be that UK licenses were ok if you went to Traffico, got stamped had medical etc.
In some regions this is still (wrongly) carried out, Spain never implements change in one go, it tends too trickle into office.
The rules are, all UK paper licenses are not valid outside UK, if you have residency in any country even EU.
UK EU licenses are valid in Spain, except when the holder of that license becomes resident in that country.
You then have 6 months in which to change to a Spanish license from the date of residency has been granted.
In 2012 an EU license will be introduced for all EU countries, allowing the points system and harmonization across the EU.
Simple.
Los permisos de conducción expedidos por los Estados miembros de la Unión Europea, con arreglo a la normativa comunitaria, mantendrán su validez en España, con la salvedad de que la edad requerida para la conducción corresponderá a la exigida para obtener el permiso español equivalente, no obstante, los titulares de un permiso, que hayan obtenido la residencia en España, pueden solicitar su canje.
DOCUMENTACIÓN NECESARIA:
1. Solicitud en impreso oficial que se facilitará en las Jefaturas de Tráfico y en la página Web de la DGT (www.dgt.es)
2. Acreditación de identidad y residencia:
a. Documento Nacional de Identidad o Pasaporte: original en vigor.
b. Autorización de residencia o documento de identidad de su país o pasaporte, junto con el Certificado de Inscripción en el Registro Central de Extranjeros para extranjeros comunitarios: original en vigor.
c. Autorización de Residencia para extranjeros no comunitarios: original en vigor.
3. Permiso de conducción comunitario: original en vigor y fotocopia.
4. Fotografía actualizada: una original de 32 x 25 mm.
5. Talón foto, que se facilitará en las Jefaturas de Tráfico: cumplimentado y firmado dentro del recuadro correspondiente.
6. Declaración por escrito de no hallarse privado por resolución judicial del derecho a conducir vehículos a motor y ciclomotores, ni sometido a intervención o suspensión del que se posea.
7. Declaración por escrito de no ser titular de otro permiso o licencia de conducción, ya sea expedido en España o en otro país comunitario, de igual clase que el solicitado.
CITA PREVIA:
Es preciso utilizar el sistema de cita previa para el canje de los permisos expedidos por Bulgaria y Rumania.
SUPUESTOS ESPECIALES:
Permiso caducado: En el supuesto de que el permiso que se pretende cajear esté caducado deberá aportar informe expedido por un centro de reconocimiento para conductores de la provincia de la Jefatura donde se presente la solicitud.
Representación: Cuando la documentación no sea presentada por el titular del permiso, la persona que le representa deberá aporta su DNI original y autorización del interesado para realizar el trámite, donde exprese su carácter gratuito.
COSTO: TASA O PRECIO PÚBLICO:
Tasa II.3 (Su cuantía varía anualmente)
Son válidos para conducir en España los permisos expedidos en países de la Unión Europea y el Espacio Económico Europeo (Islandia, Liechtenstein y Noruega).
Además, en determinadas condiciones, son también válidos para conducir en España los siguientes permisos de conducción:
1. Los nacionales de otros países que estén expedidos de conformidad con el Anexo 9 de la Convención de Ginebra, o con el Anexo 6 de la Convención de Viena, o que difieran de dichos modelos únicamente en la adopción o supresión de rúbricas no esenciales.
2. Los nacionales de otros países que estén redactados en castellano o vayan acompañados de una traducción oficial del mismo.
3. Los internacionales expedidos en el extranjero de conformidad con el Anexo 10 de la Convención de Ginebra, o de acuerdo con el modelo de Anexo E de la Convención Internacional de París, si se trata de naciones adheridas a este Convenio que no hayan suscrito o prestado adhesión al de Ginebra.
4. Los reconocidos en particulares convenios internacionales en los que España sea parte y en las condiciones que se indiquen en los mismos.
Condiciones para su validez:
La validez de los distintos permisos enumerados anteriormente, estará condicionada a que se hallen dentro del período de vigencia, su titular tenga la edad requerida en España para la obtención del permiso español equivalente y, además, a que no haya transcurrido el plazo de seis meses, como máximo, contados desde que sus titulares adquieran su residencia normal en España.
Last edited by livit; Mar 27th 2009 at 10:18 am.
#32
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
UK licences are valid for residents so long as the rules regarding periods of validity and medicals that apply to Spanish drivers are adhered to.
Registration of your licence with trafico is no longer obligatory but is still possible to do so voluntarily.
If you want chapter and verse its all in Real Decreto 62/2006, de 27 de enero
Articles 22/23
#33
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Montgomail - You only have to pay on the spot as a foreigner is you can't produce Spanish ID of some sort - in which case you have time to pay your fine, with a 30% discount if you pay I think within 15 days.
I have heard stories of foreigners without Spanish ID and without sufficient funds to pay on the spot being frogmarched off the motorway to the nearest town and taken to a cashpoint. Talk about highway robbery!!!!
I have heard stories of foreigners without Spanish ID and without sufficient funds to pay on the spot being frogmarched off the motorway to the nearest town and taken to a cashpoint. Talk about highway robbery!!!!
Suffice to say, the reason I know all this is that I had to organise the payment for him as he had no money with him and no means to get any. He has since asked for the 30% rebate (via an abogado) for paying within 15 days (he actually paid on the same day) but 3 months on is still waiting!!!
He was NOT running a business, simply carrying goods from A to B
#34
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Wrong.
UK licences are valid for residents so long as the rules regarding periods of validity and medicals that apply to Spanish drivers are adhered to.
Registration of your licence with trafico is no longer obligatory but is still possible to do so voluntarily.
If you want chapter and verse its all in Real Decreto 62/2006, de 27 de enero
Articles 22/23
UK licences are valid for residents so long as the rules regarding periods of validity and medicals that apply to Spanish drivers are adhered to.
Registration of your licence with trafico is no longer obligatory but is still possible to do so voluntarily.
If you want chapter and verse its all in Real Decreto 62/2006, de 27 de enero
Articles 22/23
As has been stated on this forum before, it would seem that no one really knows what to believe! I have spoken to a couple of GC and even they disagreed. One said that the EU licence was fine provided we followed the (normal) Spanish rules ref. medicals etc. The other stated that the EU licence had to be registered or changed to a Spanish one ??
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
I think the problem is when you show the police your UK driving licence plus residencia. You shouldn´t really have the 2 so if the police see them you will be fined.
I have never been stopped but if I were I would show them UK passport & UK driving licence & speak in very poor spanish (no problems trying there!!!)
Cheers
I have never been stopped but if I were I would show them UK passport & UK driving licence & speak in very poor spanish (no problems trying there!!!)
Cheers
#36
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
OK, now I am totally confused. I still keep my passport and UK license in the car. However, now that I am a resident here, what do I need to get a Spanish license, where do I go and more importantly how much does it cost?
I know it is a car/girl thing but I am totally or should I say more confused on my situation!!
I know it is a car/girl thing but I am totally or should I say more confused on my situation!!
#37
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Montgomail - You only have to pay on the spot as a foreigner is you can't produce Spanish ID of some sort - in which case you have time to pay your fine, with a 30% discount if you pay I think within 15 days.
I have heard stories of foreigners without Spanish ID and without sufficient funds to pay on the spot being frogmarched off the motorway to the nearest town and taken to a cashpoint. Talk about highway robbery!!!!
I have heard stories of foreigners without Spanish ID and without sufficient funds to pay on the spot being frogmarched off the motorway to the nearest town and taken to a cashpoint. Talk about highway robbery!!!!
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi SHaron B
Simply go to Trafico to exchange your licence - it costs around 20 euros. However look at your licence and make sure it is valid. Take a couple of photos, your empadron. Nie (residencia), and photocopies of those and both sides of your licence.
They may or may not ask for a medical that's about 35 euros max.
Davexf
Simply go to Trafico to exchange your licence - it costs around 20 euros. However look at your licence and make sure it is valid. Take a couple of photos, your empadron. Nie (residencia), and photocopies of those and both sides of your licence.
They may or may not ask for a medical that's about 35 euros max.
Davexf
#39
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi SHaron B
Simply go to Trafico to exchange your licence - it costs around 20 euros. However look at your licence and make sure it is valid. Take a couple of photos, your empadron. Nie (residencia), and photocopies of those and both sides of your licence.
They may or may not ask for a medical that's about 35 euros max.
Davexf
Simply go to Trafico to exchange your licence - it costs around 20 euros. However look at your licence and make sure it is valid. Take a couple of photos, your empadron. Nie (residencia), and photocopies of those and both sides of your licence.
They may or may not ask for a medical that's about 35 euros max.
Davexf
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi Sharon B
Oops forgot passport and photocopy -- sorry
Davexf
Oops forgot passport and photocopy -- sorry
Davexf
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Right, can someone tell me where we stand?
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
I just read 4 posts saying the previous poster was wrong and each offered their interpretation of the law, so I am still none the wiser, but you know......................... you just know, that this thread will be another long runner, with each corner of the argument argued to death, ending, finally, in someone getting huffy and storming off in a mood!
#44
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
I just read 4 posts saying the previous poster was wrong and each offered their interpretation of the law, so I am still none the wiser, but you know......................... you just know, that this thread will be another long runner, with each corner of the argument argued to death, ending, finally, in someone getting huffy and storming off in a mood!
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