What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
#1
What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi all,
Got stopped today for the dastardly crime of driving and talking on the phone. OK, I know it's illegal and wrong but long story short I hung up as soon as I saw them to no avail, I was fined €150.
They then took all my paperwork to their car and studied it for a good 20 mins. I've done the right thing over here, matriculation, ITV, insurance, residencia, padron the works, and I even carried out my interrogation in polite Spanish.
They came back with the charge of 'not having a Spanish licence' and fined me another €150.
I know that my licence was legit here, unless some law has changed recently I thought it wasn't compulsory to change it.
If anybody has been in a similar situation I welcome your advice.
From other people's reactions to this tale it looks like the Guardia don't like the cut of my jib.
Thanks,
Ste.
Got stopped today for the dastardly crime of driving and talking on the phone. OK, I know it's illegal and wrong but long story short I hung up as soon as I saw them to no avail, I was fined €150.
They then took all my paperwork to their car and studied it for a good 20 mins. I've done the right thing over here, matriculation, ITV, insurance, residencia, padron the works, and I even carried out my interrogation in polite Spanish.
They came back with the charge of 'not having a Spanish licence' and fined me another €150.
I know that my licence was legit here, unless some law has changed recently I thought it wasn't compulsory to change it.
If anybody has been in a similar situation I welcome your advice.
From other people's reactions to this tale it looks like the Guardia don't like the cut of my jib.
Thanks,
Ste.
#2
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi all,
Got stopped today for the dastardly crime of driving and talking on the phone. OK, I know it's illegal and wrong but long story short I hung up as soon as I saw them to no avail, I was fined €150.
They then took all my paperwork to their car and studied it for a good 20 mins. I've done the right thing over here, matriculation, ITV, insurance, residencia, padron the works, and I even carried out my interrogation in polite Spanish.
They came back with the charge of 'not having a Spanish licence' and fined me another €150.
I know that my licence was legit here, unless some law has changed recently I thought it wasn't compulsory to change it.
If anybody has been in a similar situation I welcome your advice.
From other people's reactions to this tale it looks like the Guardia don't like the cut of my jib.
Thanks,
Ste.
Got stopped today for the dastardly crime of driving and talking on the phone. OK, I know it's illegal and wrong but long story short I hung up as soon as I saw them to no avail, I was fined €150.
They then took all my paperwork to their car and studied it for a good 20 mins. I've done the right thing over here, matriculation, ITV, insurance, residencia, padron the works, and I even carried out my interrogation in polite Spanish.
They came back with the charge of 'not having a Spanish licence' and fined me another €150.
I know that my licence was legit here, unless some law has changed recently I thought it wasn't compulsory to change it.
If anybody has been in a similar situation I welcome your advice.
From other people's reactions to this tale it looks like the Guardia don't like the cut of my jib.
Thanks,
Ste.
I think you have been incorrectly fined by the sounds of it and need to take the matter up with them
#3
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
I'm of the understanding that you have to change to a Spanish one if you are resident here (showing them your Padron wouldn't have helped you there!!!!)
Still, all that is irrelevant. If the Guardia say jump you simply answer 'How high'?
If you think you've been hard done by, good luck in getting your vindication!!!
Still, all that is irrelevant. If the Guardia say jump you simply answer 'How high'?
If you think you've been hard done by, good luck in getting your vindication!!!
#4
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
http://www.licencetoday.com/legal.html
I do not condone the website but they outline the legal requirements to drive here.
I do not condone the website but they outline the legal requirements to drive here.
Last edited by poshnbucks; Mar 27th 2009 at 12:48 am.
#5
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi
Sorry Mitzy you are not quite right.
Your UK licence may have expired and therefore not be valid, From memory, item 4b on the front of the card gives the expiry date.
There have been many threads on this - but I have to ask the question, why oh why do people not want to change their licemce? You may have escaped the fine they stopped you for if you have one. I have a Spanish licence and hire cars in England so what is the problem?
Davexf
Sorry Mitzy you are not quite right.
Your UK licence may have expired and therefore not be valid, From memory, item 4b on the front of the card gives the expiry date.
There have been many threads on this - but I have to ask the question, why oh why do people not want to change their licemce? You may have escaped the fine they stopped you for if you have one. I have a Spanish licence and hire cars in England so what is the problem?
Davexf
#6
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi
Sorry Mitzy you are not quite right.
Your UK licence may have expired and therefore not be valid, From memory, item 4b on the front of the card gives the expiry date.
There have been many threads on this - but I have to ask the question, why oh why do people not want to change their licemce? You may have escaped the fine they stopped you for if you have one. I have a Spanish licence and hire cars in England so what is the problem?
Davexf
Sorry Mitzy you are not quite right.
Your UK licence may have expired and therefore not be valid, From memory, item 4b on the front of the card gives the expiry date.
There have been many threads on this - but I have to ask the question, why oh why do people not want to change their licemce? You may have escaped the fine they stopped you for if you have one. I have a Spanish licence and hire cars in England so what is the problem?
Davexf
As discussed on other threads, one problem is simply that the UK licence covers the ability to drive vehicles that the equivalent Spanish one does not. So, if those vehicles are required, changing licence would also mean taking extra exams here in Spain!
#7
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi all,
Got stopped today for the dastardly crime of driving and talking on the phone. OK, I know it's illegal and wrong but long story short I hung up as soon as I saw them to no avail, I was fined €150.
They then took all my paperwork to their car and studied it for a good 20 mins. I've done the right thing over here, matriculation, ITV, insurance, residencia, padron the works, and I even carried out my interrogation in polite Spanish.
They came back with the charge of 'not having a Spanish licence' and fined me another €150.
I know that my licence was legit here, unless some law has changed recently I thought it wasn't compulsory to change it.
If anybody has been in a similar situation I welcome your advice.
From other people's reactions to this tale it looks like the Guardia don't like the cut of my jib.
Thanks,
Ste.
Got stopped today for the dastardly crime of driving and talking on the phone. OK, I know it's illegal and wrong but long story short I hung up as soon as I saw them to no avail, I was fined €150.
They then took all my paperwork to their car and studied it for a good 20 mins. I've done the right thing over here, matriculation, ITV, insurance, residencia, padron the works, and I even carried out my interrogation in polite Spanish.
They came back with the charge of 'not having a Spanish licence' and fined me another €150.
I know that my licence was legit here, unless some law has changed recently I thought it wasn't compulsory to change it.
If anybody has been in a similar situation I welcome your advice.
From other people's reactions to this tale it looks like the Guardia don't like the cut of my jib.
Thanks,
Ste.
Next time, you do not speak Spanish and show only licence and passport. ;-) ;-)
#8
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
If you are based in Spain and your UK driving licence shows a UK address, whenyou are not resident there, then the licence is invalid.
A driving licence must show your correct address.
A driving licence must show your correct address.
#9
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
That`s different to what the DVLA say, read the bottom of the free beer thread and it`s on the DVLA site.
#10
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Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Then it's incorrect.
People are fined every day in the UK for the same offence.
"It's a legal requirement to notify the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) when you change name and/or address. Failure to notify DVLA could result in a £1000 fine."
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ce/DG_10021376
Pretty simple. It's always been the law. Driving licence is invalid if it shows an incorrect address.
People are fined every day in the UK for the same offence.
"It's a legal requirement to notify the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) when you change name and/or address. Failure to notify DVLA could result in a £1000 fine."
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ce/DG_10021376
Pretty simple. It's always been the law. Driving licence is invalid if it shows an incorrect address.
#11
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Posts: 196
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
I would love to change my licence for a Spanish one but I am unable to do so as I am in the UK for most of the school holidays to care for my grandson and during that time I have to use my daughters car as they live in the country with no bus service. Unfortunately her insurance company will not insure me unless I have a UK licence.
#13
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
I would love to change my licence for a Spanish one but I am unable to do so as I am in the UK for most of the school holidays to care for my grandson and during that time I have to use my daughters car as they live in the country with no bus service. Unfortunately her insurance company will not insure me unless I have a UK licence.
I'm not saying that this is something you should do. But imagine this hypothetical situation....
You happen to lose your UK licence. You apply for a replacement one from DVLA. When that one arrives, lo and behold your lost licence just happens to turn up again. You are now in possession of two licences. With the old licence you nip down to trafico and hand that in to get exchange for a Spanish one. So you have a Spanish licence for Spain and you still retain your British licence for Britain.
Purely hypothetical of course.
#14
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
Hi
Sorry Mitzy you are not quite right.
Your UK licence may have expired and therefore not be valid, From memory, item 4b on the front of the card gives the expiry date.
There have been many threads on this - but I have to ask the question, why oh why do people not want to change their licemce? You may have escaped the fine they stopped you for if you have one. I have a Spanish licence and hire cars in England so what is the problem?
Davexf
Sorry Mitzy you are not quite right.
Your UK licence may have expired and therefore not be valid, From memory, item 4b on the front of the card gives the expiry date.
There have been many threads on this - but I have to ask the question, why oh why do people not want to change their licemce? You may have escaped the fine they stopped you for if you have one. I have a Spanish licence and hire cars in England so what is the problem?
Davexf
I have checked, and also hold a letter from Traffico to the effect.
Firstly, your licence expires on the expiry date shown on the licence. It IS allowable for your licence to show the incorrect address, under reciprocal licence agreements between Spain and the UK.
What isn't so well known is that your UK photo licence needs renewing every 10 years, and for those of you without a UK address that may be a problem.
You will find this, as JDR mentioned, in the free beer thread.
#15
Re: What to do when the Guardia have it in for you?
What is not clear is whether you have registered the DL with traffico or not. The link given above clearly states you have to register.
The other day I was stopped with a alcohol control. Also asked for my paperwork. The GC asked if my DL was a Spanish one. They seemed to accpt had the "offical ·stamp" of traffico.
When I say stamped all it is dated and noted with my Spanish address witha typewriter!
The other day I was stopped with a alcohol control. Also asked for my paperwork. The GC asked if my DL was a Spanish one. They seemed to accpt had the "offical ·stamp" of traffico.
When I say stamped all it is dated and noted with my Spanish address witha typewriter!