IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
I am resolved to switch providers and am just waiting to see if prices get reduced again from 1 April before proceeding. Because of the annual IPC increases I am now paying €0.17592 per kwh with Iberdrola. I am leaning towards Octopus Energy at the moment with whom I would pay €0.1240 per kwh, there are slightly cheaper suppliers around such as Gana Energia whose current price is €0.1190 (both these prices are for a tariff where I would pay the same no matter what time of day the usage is for, which I prefer) but Gana's potencia charge is slightly higher plus the Trustpilot reviews are terrible whereas the ones for Octopus are very good. The new price may only be for one year but it is so simple to switch online with very little effort required so it would be no hardship to switch again at the end of that.
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
To be honest I think you have a problem - old inefficient water heater maybe...or you are on the wrong plan. Try talking to Iberdrola or use their website to see if you can get a better deal.
I paid 40,21€ in March for 121kWh - S/D house, live alone with modern electric water heater plus the usual (but no heating)
I used 185 kWh in January and paid 47,12€ (10% IVA) used some electric heating in the bathroom.
I paid 40,21€ in March for 121kWh - S/D house, live alone with modern electric water heater plus the usual (but no heating)
I used 185 kWh in January and paid 47,12€ (10% IVA) used some electric heating in the bathroom.
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
If Iberdrola are anything like Endesa then they will raise your tariff upward yearly but if they start offering a lower tariff with the same name then you won't be told anything, it's up to you to find out and switch.
Most suppliers seem to be offering an all-day tariff between 10-12c/KWh, if Iberdrola don't let existing customers switch to a similar tariff then they must be losing customers by the bucketload. So you may be able to switch tariff without changing provider.
Most suppliers seem to be offering an all-day tariff between 10-12c/KWh, if Iberdrola don't let existing customers switch to a similar tariff then they must be losing customers by the bucketload. So you may be able to switch tariff without changing provider.
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
To be honest I think you have a problem - old inefficient water heater maybe...or you are on the wrong plan. Try talking to Iberdrola or use their website to see if you can get a better deal.
I paid 40,21€ in March for 121kWh - S/D house, live alone with modern electric water heater plus the usual (but no heating)
I used 185 kWh in January and paid 47,12€ (10% IVA) used some electric heating in the bathroom.
I paid 40,21€ in March for 121kWh - S/D house, live alone with modern electric water heater plus the usual (but no heating)
I used 185 kWh in January and paid 47,12€ (10% IVA) used some electric heating in the bathroom.
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
Yes, plus the ·special" tax on electricity consumption has gone back up to 5% from the 0.5% it was reduced to temporarily. My mid Feb - mid March bill was €73.52 for 229.49 kwh, which was not too bad as we were using our aircon for heating in the evening, plus electric heaters in the bathrooms.
I am resolved to switch providers and am just waiting to see if prices get reduced again from 1 April before proceeding. Because of the annual IPC increases I am now paying €0.17592 per kwh with Iberdrola. I am leaning towards Octopus Energy at the moment with whom I would pay €0.1240 per kwh, there are slightly cheaper suppliers around such as Gana Energia whose current price is €0.1190 (both these prices are for a tariff where I would pay the same no matter what time of day the usage is for, which I prefer) but Gana's potencia charge is slightly higher plus the Trustpilot reviews are terrible whereas the ones for Octopus are very good. The new price may only be for one year but it is so simple to switch online with very little effort required so it would be no hardship to switch again at the end of that.
I am resolved to switch providers and am just waiting to see if prices get reduced again from 1 April before proceeding. Because of the annual IPC increases I am now paying €0.17592 per kwh with Iberdrola. I am leaning towards Octopus Energy at the moment with whom I would pay €0.1240 per kwh, there are slightly cheaper suppliers around such as Gana Energia whose current price is €0.1190 (both these prices are for a tariff where I would pay the same no matter what time of day the usage is for, which I prefer) but Gana's potencia charge is slightly higher plus the Trustpilot reviews are terrible whereas the ones for Octopus are very good. The new price may only be for one year but it is so simple to switch online with very little effort required so it would be no hardship to switch again at the end of that.
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
Our bill for Feb and March from Iberdrola (billed 17th to 17th) of each month was €61.49 for a total of 327kw used. We have all electric in the flat, rubbish double glazing and the floors are freezing in the winter. Heating with the A/C and oil filled rads, the fish tank runs 24/7 and the tv and the wife's laptop are on 12hrs a day. Im pretty sure all the old stereo stuff pulls more than it should but my room is always warm...
€47.81 was the energy and the rest services and tax. Because our meters are in a huge cabinet in the street we have to pay the Electrical Service cost of €2.31 a month. Tried to get out of this but was told no.
Compared with last year we used around €20 less this year and once summer comes round I expect the bill to go below €40 a month (we only use fans I dont like the A/C)
I put us on the 8 hour plan and its never changed (due for renewal next year after the five years are up). So I will be looking at a new plan.
We pay 0,148 cents for peak plus 0,08 cents for the supply and 0,053 cents for the off peak 8 hours plus 0,00034 cents for the supply.
Ive phoned them a couple of times and they emailed me when the supply was off once and all in English, Im happy with Iberdrola and will renew
€47.81 was the energy and the rest services and tax. Because our meters are in a huge cabinet in the street we have to pay the Electrical Service cost of €2.31 a month. Tried to get out of this but was told no.
Compared with last year we used around €20 less this year and once summer comes round I expect the bill to go below €40 a month (we only use fans I dont like the A/C)
I put us on the 8 hour plan and its never changed (due for renewal next year after the five years are up). So I will be looking at a new plan.
We pay 0,148 cents for peak plus 0,08 cents for the supply and 0,053 cents for the off peak 8 hours plus 0,00034 cents for the supply.
Ive phoned them a couple of times and they emailed me when the supply was off once and all in English, Im happy with Iberdrola and will renew
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
AHH....I am not the only one to notice all this. Headline in lots of newspapers today. Reading this suggests that if your contract fixed you to a price you are going to feel the pinch whereas if you have the the 3 different time zone one where the price fluctuates this will ( at the moment) off set the taxes. Lots of criticism being levelled as yet again the companies basically get you to effectively gamble on the market ( with rather a push by them). Anyway at least this confirms what I thought and millions of folk are in the same boat.
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/523...gulada-precio/
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/523...gulada-precio/
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
I have plan noche and a smart meter - and my invoices never vary a lot.
Paying 0.16 peak and 0.11 off peak very happy with Iberdrola and never have any hassles with them. I just checked and it was the same rate last year so it did not increase 1/1/24.
Paying 0.16 peak and 0.11 off peak very happy with Iberdrola and never have any hassles with them. I just checked and it was the same rate last year so it did not increase 1/1/24.
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
No, with plan noche the rates are fixed - as I quoted. It varies by time of day/night only and I do not have to contract every year it rolls on. Yes the IVA is the same as VPSC contracts.
I have been on plan noche for years and whilst I don't over analyse it I am happy as I think it is cheap.
The only setback I had (I think I started a thread ages ago) was when a girl in Carrefour stood at an Ibderola desk offered to reduce my contract price and I ended up with an unwanted 'insurance' to call them out - added around 10€ a month until I cancelled it - so be careful of those 'offers'
I have been on plan noche for years and whilst I don't over analyse it I am happy as I think it is cheap.
The only setback I had (I think I started a thread ages ago) was when a girl in Carrefour stood at an Ibderola desk offered to reduce my contract price and I ended up with an unwanted 'insurance' to call them out - added around 10€ a month until I cancelled it - so be careful of those 'offers'
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
My last bill was 42.20 euros for 193 KWH with endesa. That was February to .March so I presume includes new tax rates.. we are on a 3 period rate that has day time rate cheaper daytime rate and nighttime rate. I use a timer to.warm up hot water overnight (cheapest rate) and again mid afternoon when it's (mid rate). Seems to work ok for us and been on it for years.
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
No, with plan noche the rates are fixed - as I quoted. It varies by time of day/night only and I do not have to contract every year it rolls on. Yes the IVA is the same as VPSC contracts.
I have been on plan noche for years and whilst I don't over analyse it I am happy as I think it is cheap.
The only setback I had (I think I started a thread ages ago) was when a girl in Carrefour stood at an Ibderola desk offered to reduce my contract price and I ended up with an unwanted 'insurance' to call them out - added around 10€ a month until I cancelled it - so be careful of those 'offers'
I have been on plan noche for years and whilst I don't over analyse it I am happy as I think it is cheap.
The only setback I had (I think I started a thread ages ago) was when a girl in Carrefour stood at an Ibderola desk offered to reduce my contract price and I ended up with an unwanted 'insurance' to call them out - added around 10€ a month until I cancelled it - so be careful of those 'offers'
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Re: IVA on Electricity to rise to 10% from 1 January 2024
Ok so you mean your price is fixed and hasn't changed in January?. I thought all prices on fixed contracts get revised at the beginning of year - mine certainly has changed and along with the removal of the special Tax and the IVA I can't see how people's facturas won't increase. I find it so time consuming talking to Iberdrola and you are right no sooner do you change a plan lo and behold some new charge appears ( like the call out insurance you mention) so then you phone again ( a month later) to cancel that and then they tell you they will have to write a new contract and then they quote a completely new price. You argue about that then they phone you back offering some discount for 3 months so you take that and bingo back comes the call out insurance!!! You can't win! Umfffff.
I don't want a tariff with different prices for different hours, it does not suit our lifestyle. I did try it for a few months with Iberdrola but it was costing us more than the Plan Estable does.