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DigitalGhost Feb 15th 2017 10:12 am

Re: common law proof
 

Originally Posted by Trine (Post 12098737)
My son is trying to arrange a long term visit visa for his Japanese G/F they have been living in Tokyo he is British and his job is moving to Singapore if they get affidavit do they need to get that notarised in Japan order in UK

Good luck getting that notarised in Japan. The Japanese legal system recognises common law relationships even less than Britain does. In Japan you're either married or you're not, there is no in-between. Cohabiting in most parts of Japan is perfectly fine these days but don't expect to get any legal support off the back of it.

Tvrdavey Feb 15th 2017 10:23 am

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[QUOTE=Trine;12100934]

Originally Posted by Trine (Post 12098737)
My son is trying to arrange a long term visit visa for his Japanese G/F they have been living in Tokyo he is British and his job is moving to Singapore if they get affidavit do they need to get that notarised in Japan or in the uk?

I would assume you can get it notarised in the U.K., but whether it is worth doing or not is another question. Seems that some applications are accepted and some rejected. Pot luck!

stumc82 Mar 13th 2017 10:00 am

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[QUOTE=Aaronsarah;12035555]

Originally Posted by sayang (Post 12035406)
Are you British?

As the UK government does not recognise common law marriage, you can't get the proof. An affadivit used to be enough, but SG govt now wants confirmation from the government involved (embassy/ high commission)

So, get married.[/QUOT
thank you for your reply. Yes we are British. We've managed to find something online we have just got to get a solicitor to witness and sign so no need to get married 😂

Can you share the information you found online? I'm in a similar situation would welcome guidance.

CatF Mar 23rd 2017 1:15 am

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[QUOTE=Aaronsarah;12035555]

Originally Posted by sayang (Post 12035406)
Are you British?

As the UK government does not recognise common law marriage, you can't get the proof. An affadivit used to be enough, but SG govt now wants confirmation from the government involved (embassy/ high commission)

So, get married.[/QUOT
thank you for your reply. Yes we are British. We've managed to find something online we have just got to get a solicitor to witness and sign so no need to get married 😂

Hi Guys,

We are in a similar situation, nothing seems to be clear online about this. What did you find online and did you get your affidavit notarised by a UK solicitor?

Thanks for your help

Tvrdavey Mar 23rd 2017 1:33 am

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[QUOTE=CatF;12210827]

Originally Posted by Aaronsarah (Post 12035555)

Hi Guys,

We are in a similar situation, nothing seems to be clear online about this. What did you find online and did you get your affidavit notarised by a UK solicitor?

Thanks for your help

We had ours notarised by public notary in the UK, but was unsuccessful.

CatF Mar 23rd 2017 1:53 am

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[QUOTE=Tvrdavey;12210843]

Originally Posted by CatF (Post 12210827)

We had ours notarised by public notary in the UK, but was unsuccessful.

Ok thanks. So what were your next steps? Thanks

Tvrdavey Mar 23rd 2017 2:00 am

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[QUOTE=CatF;12210854]

Originally Posted by Tvrdavey (Post 12210843)

Ok thanks. So what were your next steps? Thanks

Seems there is little you can do. Strictly speaking it's impossible to provide the evidence the Singapore authorities are looking for if you are a UK citizen. In some cases they seem to regard the affidavit as acceptable, but in other cases (like ours) they do not.

Any suggestions as to what the next step is are welcome!

sayang Apr 3rd 2017 2:04 am

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Get married is the obvious next step... (we got married for visa reasons too, 17 years ago...)

Hads101 Apr 11th 2017 3:14 am

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Hi all,

This is my first post on here. I recently moved over here from the UK (1st April) and my partner and me are also unmarried. I am on an EP. We had a notary sign an affidavit and provided all of the usual documents requested and it was fine for the LTVP - 2 years granted. I think if your employer applies for the LTVP for your unmarried partner you have a much better chance of being accepted.

Good luck.

Tvrdavey Apr 12th 2017 7:47 am

Re: common law proof
 

Originally Posted by Hads101 (Post 12226388)
Hi all,

This is my first post on here. I recently moved over here from the UK (1st April) and my partner and me are also unmarried. I am on an EP. We had a notary sign an affidavit and provided all of the usual documents requested and it was fine for the LTVP - 2 years granted. I think if your employer applies for the LTVP for your unmarried partner you have a much better chance of being accepted.

Good luck.

Thanks for the info, sent you a PM

Hads101 Apr 12th 2017 7:51 am

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No problem, I cant view my messages until I have posted 3 times! One sec.

Hads101 Apr 12th 2017 7:53 am

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That should do it...

Abarrow88 Apr 22nd 2017 11:18 am

Re: common law proof
 

Originally Posted by Hads101 (Post 12226388)
Hi all,

This is my first post on here. I recently moved over here from the UK (1st April) and my partner and me are also unmarried. I am on an EP. We had a notary sign an affidavit and provided all of the usual documents requested and it was fine for the LTVP - 2 years granted. I think if your employer applies for the LTVP for your unmarried partner you have a much better chance of being accepted.

Good luck.

Hi Hads,
Me and my partner are in the same situation, in that he has started his employment in Singapore with a two year employment pass and we are unmarried. We are both from the UK. Can I ask which country you are from? Has your partner been granted a visa? We have a mortgage together, not sure if that will help! Did you include any adoditional documentation? Pretty stressful situation ATM and I'm convinced marriage isn't the answer!
Thanks
Amelia

Dunk78 Jul 6th 2017 8:49 am

Re: common law proof
 
Hi everyone, myself and partner are moving Singapore next month and are in a similar position to yourselves:

She and I are both British. We have been living together in the UK for over 10 years, have had a joint mortgage since 2011 (with statements) and have joint council tax statements dating back to then. We also have joint life insurance policy.

I will be on an EP through my employer and they will also submit the application for my partner's LTVP. We plan to provide the above evidence plus notarised affidavit(s).

My query / request is, does anyone that has been successful have any further advice and also would they be able to provide a template of what is considered an acceptable affidavit / declaration by Singapore MOM?

Thanks very much in advance for any help any of you can provide.

JJ89 Jul 27th 2017 6:39 am

Re: common law proof
 

Originally Posted by Dunk78 (Post 12288034)
Hi everyone, myself and partner are moving Singapore next month and are in a similar position to yourselves:

She and I are both British. We have been living together in the UK for over 10 years, have had a joint mortgage since 2011 (with statements) and have joint council tax statements dating back to then. We also have joint life insurance policy.

I will be on an EP through my employer and they will also submit the application for my partner's LTVP. We plan to provide the above evidence plus notarised affidavit(s).

My query / request is, does anyone that has been successful have any further advice and also would they be able to provide a template of what is considered an acceptable affidavit / declaration by Singapore MOM?

Thanks very much in advance for any help any of you can provide.

Hi all, my partner and I are in a similar situation. We are both Scottish and I have a potential job offer on Singapore. The company will apply for an employment pass for me and I was hoping a LTVP for my partner. I emailed Ministry of Manpower to ask about the affadavit and what they need. Their response was:
"We wish to share that United Kingdom (UK) nationals are not eligible for Long-Term Visit Passes (LTVP) for common-law spouses, as such relationships do not have legal status under UK law. We are therefore unable to consider your LTVP application."
As the quote I got from a lawyer for preparing an affadavit is around 250 pounds, I don't really want to do that if they are saying they won't accept it. However, from know this thread MoM obviously have accepted an affadavit fairly recently!


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